Libertarians Favor Obama and Other Looks at Election 2008

Rasmussen Reports ^ | July 05, 2008 | Rasmussen Reports

[Yaelle]

Very Communist art. Trite propaganda. Paternalistic power fetishes.

[HANG THE EXPENSE]

If this is true then the libertarians have run smooth off the cliff.

[Salvation]

[Tanniker Smith]

Yeah, I use “tend toward” because of a handful of folks I know that call themselves libertarian, but I don’t think that they really know what it means.

[Antoninus]

I’m not surprised in the least. Why do you think I call them “liberaltarians”? Because they only think they’re conservative. When it comes down to brass tacks, they’ll vote for a socialist over even a moderate Republican.

[bmwcyle]

I have said for years here, Libertarians are stupid. This proves it.

[plain talk]

I don’t buy it. First its possible some liberals confuse themselves with libertarians and project what they want a libertarian to be rather than what they generally are and then tell the pollster they are libertarians. Who knows.

[Jay Redhawk]

My BS meter just pegged out on this one. I don't know any libertarians that would support Obama.

[ETL]

"Obama's record on abortion is extreme. He opposed the ban on partial-birth abortion -- a practice a fellow Democrat, the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan, once called 'too close to infanticide.' Obama strongly criticized the Supreme Court decision upholding the partial-birth ban. In the Illinois state Senate, he opposed a bill similar to the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, which prevents the killing of infants mistakenly left alive by abortion. And now Obama has oddly claimed he would not want his daughters to be 'punished with a baby' because of a crisis pregnancy -- hardly a welcoming attitude toward new life."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/04/caseys_endorsement_lacks_fathe.html

From OnTheIssues.org: Obama on Abortion

* Ok for state to restrict late-term partial birth abortion. (Apr 2008)
* We can find common ground between pro-choice and pro-life. (Apr 2008)
* Undecided on whether life begins at conception. (Apr 2008)
* Teach teens about abstinence and also about contraception. (Apr 2008)
* GovWatch: Obama's "present" votes were a requested strategy. (Feb 2008)
* Expand access to contraception; reduce unintended pregnancy. (Feb 2008)
* Rated 100% by NARAL on pro-choice votes in 2005, 2006 & 2007. (Jan 2008)
* Voted against banning partial birth abortion. (Oct 2007)
* Stem cells hold promise to cure 70 major diseases. (Aug 2007)
* Trust women to make own decisions on partial-birth abortion. (Apr 2007)
* Extend presumption of good faith to abortion protesters. (Oct 2006)
* Constitution is a living document; no strict constructionism. (Oct 2006)
* Moral accusations from pro-lifers are counterproductive. (Oct 2004)
* Pass the Stem Cell Research Bill. (Jun 2004)
* Protect a woman's right to choose. (May 2004)
* Supports Roe v. Wade. (Jul 1998)
* Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
* Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
* Voted YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Apr 2007)
* Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
* Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
* Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women. (May 2006)
* Rated 0% by the NRLC, indicating a pro-choice stance. (Dec 2006)
* Ensure access to and funding for contraception. (Feb 2007)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm#Abortion

From OnTheIssues.org: John McCain on Abortion:

* Pro-life and an advocate for the Rights of Man everywhere. (Feb 2008)
* GovWatch: 1999: Don't force women to have illegal operations. (Feb 2008)
* Abortion issue shows what kind of country we are. (Aug 2007)
* Concerned if women undergo illegal dangerous operations. (May 2007)
* Supports federal funding of embryonic stem cell research. (May 2007)
* Prosecute abortion doctors, not women who get them. (Jan 2000)
* “Family Conference” if daughter wanted an abortion. (Jan 2000)
* Abortion OK if raped; and no testing for rape. (Jan 2000)
* Supports fetal tissue research; against over-intensity. (Jan 2000)
* Overturn Roe v. Wade, but keep incest & rape exceptions. (Jan 2000)
* Support adoption & foster care; work together on abortion. (Oct 1999)
* Wants Roe vs. Wade made irrelevant, but would not repeal it. (Aug 1999)
* Opposes partial-birth abortions & public financing. (Aug 1999)
* Nominate justices based on experience, and values. (Jun 1999)
* Restrict abortions; no partial-birth; no public funding. (Jul 1998)

Voting Record
* Supports repealing Roe v. Wade. (May 2007)
* Voted YES on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
* Voted YES on barring HHS grants to organizations that perform abortions. (Oct 2007)
* Voted YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Apr 2007)
* Voted YES on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
* Voted NO on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
* Voted YES on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
* Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
* Voted YES on maintaining ban on Military Base Abortions. (Jun 2000)
* Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions. (Oct 1999)
* Voted YES on banning human cloning. (Feb 1998)
* Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)
* Expand embryonic stem cell research. (Jun 2004)
* Rated 75% by the NRLC, indicating a mixed record on abortion. (Dec 2006)

http://www.ontheissues.org/John_McCain.htm

[radioman]

Oh Lawd...a Ron Paul supporter. Should have known.

Of course I'm a Ron Paul supporter. I revere the Constitution the same way others revere the Bible. Ron Paul is the only candidate who defends the Constitution. If you want my vote, and don't like Ron Paul, give me another candidate who defends the Constituion.

[Beckwith]

First Ron Paul, now Obama?. Just proves Libertarians are nuts.

[Darth Hillary]

Friend, Smoking pot does not change one’s politics or philosophy any more than drinking a single malt and smoking a cigar.

[airborne]

I personally find this poll hard to believe.

Libertarians would rather vote for Bob Barr or Ron Paul, but I’m guessing this poll (intentionally) left out these options.

[Berlin_Freeper]

A Lib is a Lib.

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

Either this poll is flawed, or those who call themselves libertarians are very mistaken about what it is to be a libertarain....

...or we Libertarians are being our usual contrary selves, and are not being completely honest with the pollsters. That has happened before.

Not that we owe any damned thing to any of these Bozos.

[radioman]

If you want to see a real conservative and a real man look at Ronald Reagan.
I worked for the Reagan campaign in California. Ron Paul is more "Reagan" than McCain or any other Republican candidate.

"I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism"....Ronald Reagan

[traviskicks]

yea, i bet you’re right, that’s probably what happened. People, i guess, have different ideas on what it means to be socially and fiscally conservative.

[MaggieCarta]

Actually, the line should have read:
“Librarians favor Obama and Other Books...”

[traviskicks]

What do you mean? Have they changed? I’m generally a fan of the folks at reason.com.