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There Go the Neighborhoods
City Journal ^ | 2 July 2008 | Heather Mac Donald

Posted on 07/05/2008 7:48:50 PM PDT by Lorianne

Even million-dollar housing vouchers bring crime to the suburbs. ___ What if Section 8 housing voucher recipients were given $15 million vouchers, good for use in Malibu or Beverly Hills? The only question would be whether it would take a full five seconds for elite support for this federal housing program—which provides welfare families with a monthly rental check to move from ghettos to more stable working-class neighborhoods—to evaporate.

The gorgeous sea-and-mountain community of Topanga Canyon, just south of Malibu, may have gotten a little taste of what such an experiment in serious social engineering might look like. In 2000, Los Angeles paid $15 million to Javier Francisco Ovando, a Honduran illegal immigrant and member of the 18th Street gang, in compensation for his victimization at the hands of two corrupt Los Angeles police officers four years earlier. The Ovando case was at the heart of the Rampart scandal, in which a cadre of gang cops from the LAPD’s Rampart Division abused, stole from, and framed drug dealers. Two of those officers shot the unarmed Ovando during a drug investigation, paralyzing him. They then planted a gun on him and persuaded a court that he had fired his gun first, resulting in Ovando’s imprisonment for two and a half years until the truth came to light.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: govwatch; section8; welfare
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1 posted on 07/05/2008 7:48:50 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

section 8’s a government socialist scam.

i didn’t know what it was until i moved into an apartment that had some section 8’s.

i learned fast. they were always begging rides and favors.

then, it seemed that the apartment management favored the section 8’s over the other residents who paid more rent.

correct. the management said that the government paid the apartment owner MORE money for the section 8’s than what non-section 8’s paid.

so, the owner wanted more section 8’s.

i moved out.


2 posted on 07/05/2008 7:53:33 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: ken21

I view forced subsidized housing as a ploy by the liberals to take over conservative voting blocks in suburbs, etc.


3 posted on 07/05/2008 7:56:12 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Lijahsbubbe

yo probably right.

they all vote democrat, i noticed.

they sit around all day watching tv.


4 posted on 07/05/2008 7:57:38 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: ken21

Another nail in our coffin, put there by Congressional Democrats.


5 posted on 07/05/2008 7:57:48 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: Lorianne
Section 8 can ruin nice community's. East New Orleans is a prime example.
6 posted on 07/05/2008 8:02:19 PM PDT by BBell
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To: ken21
One of my acquaintances who's mother works for the local Section 8 here put her daughter on the program. Her daughter is single, no children, stays home and collects disability based on her mom's connections to other state/government agencies.

It is a scam and nobody gets involved to clean it up because of fear of being labeled racist since majority of the recipients are minorities.

Time for me to go to bed since I am working tomorrow so my taxes can continue funding these programs.
7 posted on 07/05/2008 8:09:01 PM PDT by FORTRUTHONLY (Easy as 3.14159265358979323846...)
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To: Lorianne; Behind Liberal Lines

I seem to remember that a certain freeper from Ithaca once wrote a song about Section 8 to the tune of “Yesterday.”


8 posted on 07/05/2008 8:11:46 PM PDT by Clemenza (You Shoot Me in a Dream, You Better Wake Up and Apologize)
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To: ken21

A poster here once gave a tip with respect to apartment hunting. He or she recommended casing prospective apartment communities during the weekdays to judge how many cars were sitting in the parking lots. An apartment community full of cars at 10:00 or 11:00 a.m. on weekday mornings would probably not be a good sign.


9 posted on 07/05/2008 8:12:40 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: Lorianne

I thought a Section 8 was a crazy person.


10 posted on 07/05/2008 8:16:25 PM PDT by Linden1209
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To: Cecily

good tip!

just i noticed driving thru’ moreno valley during the day—

lots of young men, 20’s-30’s, walking around the streets with do

rags and mexican gang stuff,

with their girl friends pushing baby carriages.

not a good sign.


11 posted on 07/05/2008 8:21:15 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: ken21

No offense, but is there ANYWHERE in the Inland Empire that is livable these days?


12 posted on 07/05/2008 8:34:46 PM PDT by Clemenza (You Shoot Me in a Dream, You Better Wake Up and Apologize)
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To: Cecily

Too much work. If you see an ad in the paper that shows an apartment for rent, just call the number and ask” yo my man, is the space still fo rent?” If they say yes, you do not want to live there. If they say no, go take a look.


13 posted on 07/05/2008 8:35:22 PM PDT by shaft29 (Just your typical black woman.)
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To: Cecily

I also looked at the year of the cars in the parking lot when I was interested in a complex. They have a great site now, www.apartmentratings.com that is very helpful when searching apartments in your area.


14 posted on 07/05/2008 8:41:40 PM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: ken21

There is an article this month about this in Atlantic Monthly I think. Apparently the Memphis police were stunned when crime suddenly jumped in previously low crime areas. Just so happened that the Chief of Police is married to a professor of urban planning at the university. One day she put an overlay of neighborhoods where the city had moved Section 8 people to get them out of the hood onto a map that had the crime pockets marked. Perfect match.

When you go house hunting, look for a place where there is no vacant land nearby for the politicians to do their social engineering.


15 posted on 07/05/2008 8:45:27 PM PDT by freespirited (Never vote for a man who gets his nails done.)
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To: shaft29
Too much work. If you see an ad in the paper that shows an apartment for rent, just call the number and ask” yo my man, is the space still fo rent?” If they say yes, you do not want to live there. If they say no, go take a look.

;^)

16 posted on 07/05/2008 8:50:49 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Clemenza
No offense, but is there ANYWHERE in the Inland Empire that is livable these days?

I think within a decade, most of the populations of Compton and East L.A. will have exchanged places with everyone now living in the Inland Empire who can afford to sell out.

The same pattern will occur in many other places. In Arizona, the ticky-tacky tract homes way out in Queen Creek and Peoria will soon be filled with gang-bangers, while the tougher parts of central and south Phoenix will continue gentrifying. I think the light-rail white elephant might even make a go of it.

-ccm

17 posted on 07/05/2008 9:01:03 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Disambiguator

I’ll happily have Ward Connerly as a neighbor. Trash of any color is not what I want in my neighborhood. I consider Rosie O’Donnel trash as well.


18 posted on 07/05/2008 9:04:46 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: BBell
Section 8 can ruin nice community's. East New Orleans is a prime example.

Tampa's not far behind.
19 posted on 07/05/2008 9:10:30 PM PDT by WackySam (The Constitution is not an a la carte menu.)
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To: Disambiguator

No, just trying to pass on a short cut because of the high cost of gasoline. Why visit when you can find out by phone?


20 posted on 07/05/2008 9:12:32 PM PDT by shaft29 (Just your typical black woman.)
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