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McCain: Border security before path to citizenship
Mercury News ^ | July 14, 2008 | Mary Anne Ostrom

Posted on 07/14/2008 9:29:31 PM PDT by FocusNexus

John McCain on Monday asked Latinos to trust him on the thorny issue of how to treat the nation's illegal immigrants, a day after Barack Obama accused the Arizona senator of backing away from his a key position for fear of alienating GOP conservatives.

Far behind in polls that show Obama leading 2 to 1 among Latino voters, a feisty McCain spoke to the National Council of La Raza a day after the Illinois senator, and said he intends to make comprehensive immigration reform a top priority if elected.

But disappointing some at the Latino civil rights gathering, he said he stuck to his position that he only would consider a path to citizenship for illegal residents after he can prove to Americans that the border is secure. Otherwise, he argued, reform measures will never be enacted. He cited fears of national security and that a porous border leads to drug smuggling and other crimes.

"I do ask for your trust that when I say I remain committed to fair, practical and comprehensive immigration reform, I mean it. I mean it. With all due modesty, I think I have earned that trust."

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TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; aliens; borders; bordersecurity; elections; hispanicvote; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; laraza; mccain; rino
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1 posted on 07/14/2008 9:29:32 PM PDT by FocusNexus
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To: FocusNexus

Secure the borders. Enforce the laws. Require the online system be used by all companies on hiring.

Then watch the exports hit the road home. It’s already working just fine in Arizona.


2 posted on 07/14/2008 9:31:20 PM PDT by romanesq
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To: FocusNexus

There’s already a path to citizenship. It’s called going “home” and filling out the paperwork.


3 posted on 07/14/2008 9:31:57 PM PDT by TheZMan (Bitter backwoods east Texan Christian gun clinger with the AC at 72 degrees.)
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To: FocusNexus

I’ll believe it when I see it, Juan.

Until then, keep going.


4 posted on 07/14/2008 9:32:14 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: romanesq

It’s working in Los Angeles as well. Know some businesses in the Garment District which previously hired illegals and currently, they now keep SSS and DMV ID’s (copies of) for ICE/IRS raids.


5 posted on 07/14/2008 9:34:34 PM PDT by max americana
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To: FocusNexus
"I do ask for your trust that when I say I remain committed to fair, practical and comprehensive immigration reform, I mean it. I mean it. With all due modesty, I think I have earned that trust."

Juan McPain just doesn't change. He's still lying and pandering in plain sight. What's all this talk about "reform"? How about simply ENFORCING existing laws?! He pretty much excluded himself by ever being trusted by the vast majority of us simply by virtue of his past political record.

As for him "thinking" he's earned trust, he must be suffering from delusions of grandeur or simply suffering psychosis.
6 posted on 07/14/2008 9:40:45 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: All

Obama promises amnesty for illegal immigrants

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2045609/posts

Here’s a bit of what Obama had to say: “Yes, they broke the law. And we should not excuse that. We should require them to pay a fine, learn English, and go to the back of the line for citizenship - behind those who came here legally. But we cannot - and should not - deport 12 million people. “

Obama went on to say: “That’s why we need to offer those who are willing to make amends a pathway to citizenship. That way, we can reconcile our values as both a nation of immigrants and a nation of laws.”


7 posted on 07/14/2008 9:45:36 PM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: FocusNexus

Juan McCain - Pure as the new driven slush.

La Raza and illegal aliens can trust him alright.

It is the legal citizens and legal voters of the US that cannot trust him.

Does he think we have forgotten how he, Ted Kennedy and his other sneaky, slimy one-world pals tried to slip the Shamnesty bill through in the dark of night with no open debate and no time for anyone to actually read the voluminous text?

Would you spend your hard earned money to buy a used car from this double-talking, lying, back-stabbing, traitorous sneak?


8 posted on 07/14/2008 9:55:27 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: wastedyears
what do you mean by that ? he told La Raza to stick it . what else do you McCain haters want ? OBama promised instant voting rights . I noticed you did not mention those comments .
9 posted on 07/14/2008 9:56:25 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: ncalburt

He’s still offering millions of big-time lawbreakers a path to citizenship, which would pertain to all of them gaining the same rights we have, and very likely preferential treatment. Add in Iranian, Venezuelan, Russian, North Korean, and Chinese spies.

I do NOT want them to be given a path to citizenship. If that makes me a racist, so be it.


10 posted on 07/14/2008 10:02:36 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: Iron Munro
Again , another Obama collaborator trying to trash McCain to distract away from Obama€™s comments. The fact Obama promised instant citizenship is IGNORED BY YOU . McCain's tough talk is ignored . The usual tactic of a McCain hater / Obama collaborator .
11 posted on 07/14/2008 10:03:47 PM PDT by ncalburt
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McCain's tough talk is ignored

Why would you want to consider "path to citizenship" to people who have already broken the law?

Not only should the borders be secured first, but immigration itself needs to be overhauled. There should be a moratorium on legal immigration. There should be NO citizenship deals or guest-worker programs.

We've had the football pulled from us one too many times by Lucy McCain.

12 posted on 07/14/2008 10:17:07 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (BARACK OBAMA WILL SAVE US! HE HAS RISEN!!)
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To: FocusNexus
a path to citizenship for illegal residents after he can prove to Americans that the border is secure

Which lie is which?

Unless he expects miracles in securing the border the first hours of his administration, he is hoodwinking various groups.

In other not-so-public venues, he has promised to work for Comprehensive Immigration Reform (aka, McCain-Kennedy; aka, amnesty for illegals) during the first month of his administration.

It is almost certain that the borders will not be secured by then.

So, which commitment is McCain going to keep? Border security or CIF the first month of 2009?

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May 22, 2008:
McCain Says Immigration Reform Should Be Top Priority

[By 'top priority' he means January 2009.]
13 posted on 07/14/2008 10:22:20 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: ncalburt
McCain's tough talk is ignored

McCain tried as hard as he could to get he and his buddy Ted Kennedy's amnesty through congress. He showed contempt for me and every other conservative and called us racist. McCain is a pimple on the butt of the Republican party and has zero credibility especially when it comes to criminal invaders of our Country. He would make a much better leader of a racist organization like La Raza then he would president.

14 posted on 07/14/2008 10:25:47 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: FocusNexus
In fairness to McLiberal, I think he gets it now. Secure the borders first and than we can talk. Maybe, possibly we can do something with the anchor babies and their lawbreaking parents.

We don't want amnesty for the 132 Million third world illegal aliens in 2065. By that time America has long since been buried.

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15 posted on 07/14/2008 10:30:52 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: ncalburt
Again , another Obama collaborator trying to trash McCain to distract away from Obama€™s comments. The fact Obama promised instant citizenship is IGNORED BY YOU. McCain's tough talk is ignored . The usual tactic of a McCain hater / Obama collaborator .

I don't mind exchanging our ideas and opinions about the candidates here but your personal attacks and name calling are out of line and violate the rules on Free Republic.

Please refer to the title of this article:
"McCain: Border security before path to citizenship"

It is directed to McCain's comments and position on illegal aliens, not Obama's, and that is what I commented on.

There are other articles and threads that deal directly with Obama's statements and postions.

I don't ignore Obama's pandering, but then he isn't representing the Republican party which, supposedly, stands for enforcement of our laws and the US constitution.

McCain more closely represents the values of the Democrats on this issue than he does of conservatives and anyone who doesn't recognize that isn't paying attention.

16 posted on 07/14/2008 11:19:36 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: FocusNexus
You can NOT offer a "PATH to CITIZENSHIP" for somebody who entered illegaly.

They MUST leave the country.

If they want, they MUST apply at a US embassy or Consulate.

And they must get BEHIND all the other applicants, who are and were illegal.

This, FENCE OR NO FENCE, "FENCE FIRST" or no "FENCE FIRST".

The man is smoking CRACK. Pure and simple.

HE ....IS....TALKING....EVENTUAL....AMNESTY of millions.

17 posted on 07/14/2008 11:33:26 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Accepting the REALITY & trying to reverse America's slow global economic decline, is true patriotism)
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To: ncalburt
he told La Raza to stick it

You must have read a different speech than I did.

18 posted on 07/15/2008 12:15:53 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

John McCain

puto loco


19 posted on 07/15/2008 12:33:20 AM PDT by Checkers (McCain: "Hillary Clinton would make a good President.")
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To: AmericanInTokyo

One thing that bothers me is that they are still talking about ten to twelve million illegal aliens inside our borders. That’s why we had in 2000, and we’re eight years down the road with 1.5 to 3.0 million coming across each year.

Tell me there isn’t something rotten in Denmark taking place here.

Are they legalizing all these people as fast as they roll over without telling the public? That’s the only way I know of for them to be accurate about that 10 to 12 million number.

Otherwise was have between 20 to 35 million here.

There’s something rotten in Denmark. I’m beginning to wonder if Bush hasn’t been slipping them in under the table all these years. It did seem strange to me that he didn’t take public action on the illegal alien issue, after promising to do so in 2000.

Is there a law that gives illegals who have been here for five years and can prove it, legal resident status if they request it? If so, we’ve been had, pure and simple.


20 posted on 07/15/2008 12:44:18 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Annapolis, flight school, Congress, Senate, MIAs, Keating 5, Soros, Kerry... tried & found wanting!)
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