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McCain-Graham: Mutual-trust ticket [megabarf alert]
The Post and Courier, Charleston, SC ^ | 2008-07-20 | Frank Wooten

Posted on 07/19/2008 10:09:10 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

Americans should pick a president they think they can trust.

John McCain should pick a running mate he knows he can trust.

McCain knows he can trust Lindsey Graham.

(Excerpt) Read more at charleston.net ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008veep; election; electionpresident; johnmccain; juanmccain; lindseygraham; mccain; mccainlist; mccaintruthfile; rino; rinoalert; rinomadness; rinostampede
Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse.
1 posted on 07/19/2008 10:09:11 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385; indylindy; calcowgirl; Ingtar; djsherin; Sunnyflorida; SoConPubbie; Sybeck1; ...
Juan "Amnesty" McCain + Lindsey "Republican by Day, Democrat by Night" Graham = JUST PLAIN WRONG

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2 posted on 07/19/2008 10:10:35 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." Ronald Reagan)
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To: upchuck

Lindsey ping, FYI


3 posted on 07/19/2008 10:10:52 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." Ronald Reagan)
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To: All

The Republicrat Triumvirate

4 posted on 07/19/2008 10:16:23 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." Ronald Reagan)
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To: rabscuttle385; upchuck; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Kuksool; Norman Bates; LdSentinal; ...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


5 posted on 07/19/2008 10:22:52 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Woohoo! A LaRaza ticket!

He's gonna pass that amnesty and "make the bigots shut up." Yep... America is just "an idea." "No group owns being an American--nobody owns this."

Yep... he's just the kind of guy that I can trust to defend our nation. /heavy sarcasm

6 posted on 07/19/2008 10:33:30 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: rabscuttle385

They really want to lose this election without a doubt.PATHETIC RINO STUPIDITY.


7 posted on 07/19/2008 10:42:49 PM PDT by imahawk (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: rabscuttle385

If anyone thinks McCain doesn’t want open borders, you need a brain scan.


8 posted on 07/19/2008 10:47:18 PM PDT by cattleranch716
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To: Grunthor; JoJo Gunn

Oh, here you go, in case I forgot to ping you on this.


9 posted on 07/19/2008 10:52:19 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." Ronald Reagan)
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To: rabscuttle385

It can and it will.


10 posted on 07/19/2008 10:59:53 PM PDT by Califreak (Time to give the empty suits a one way ticket to the cleaners!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Wow... That’s... so... gay.


11 posted on 07/19/2008 11:09:37 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: rabscuttle385

McCain/Graham? I think they should go for it! Seriously, I can’t take anything they say or do seriously.


12 posted on 07/19/2008 11:19:04 PM PDT by upsdriver
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To: rabscuttle385

McCain may trust Lindsey Graham but conservatives can trust Mark Sanford.


13 posted on 07/19/2008 11:41:51 PM PDT by ari-freedom (McCain must pick a conservative VP if he wants conservative support)
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To: rabscuttle385
I HOPE HE DOES IT.

I have my strategic reasons for it. ;-)

14 posted on 07/19/2008 11:42:05 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Accepting the REALITY & trying to reverse America's slow global economic decline, is true patriotism)
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To: calcowgirl

Film Actors Guildmember


15 posted on 07/20/2008 1:11:18 AM PDT by Checkers (McCain: "Hillary Clinton would make a good President.")
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To: rabscuttle385

I do not like John McCain.
I will vote for him as once again our very stupid Republican leadership has determined to nominate an old tired guy as they did Bob Dole.
I will not take relish in pulling the lever for this Rino jerk but he is never the less better than Obamma.
If however McLame calls upon this pos Graham to be his V.P. I will vote for Nader or write in Ronald Reagan.
Graham is intolerable.


16 posted on 07/20/2008 3:24:49 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I hope he picks Graham too, just for the entertainment value of watching the McQueeg supporters on FR twist themselves into even tighter knots.


17 posted on 07/20/2008 5:52:09 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (My grandkids will ask-Was there really a time when I could get on a plane without removing my shoes?)
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To: rabscuttle385; alarm rider; Alex1977; at bay; BILL_C; bnelson44; Clintonfatigued; DesScorp; ...
Thanks for the ping.

From the article, written by Frank Wooten (emphasis mine):

But the most vital balance would come from McCain's faith in a devoted pal who's honest, knowledgeable, insightful, creative, hard-working, adept at crossing party lines, politically courageous — and the smartest public official this editorial writer has encountered in 10 years on this job.
You don't get out much, do you Frank?


Lindsey Ping
"Republican by day, Democrat by night."

Add me to the list. / Remove me from the list.

18 posted on 07/20/2008 6:06:30 AM PDT by upchuck (As we doggedly march towards dystopia, my poor country is losing it's mind. God help us!)
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To: rabscuttle385

John McCain should pick a running mate he knows he can trust.

McCain knows he can trust Lindsey Graham.


Great. Amnesty. Global Warming taxes. Now frigging gay “rights.” What’s next, personally performing an abortion live on CNN from the Reagan Library?


19 posted on 07/20/2008 6:19:16 AM PDT by Grunthor (I see you are playing stupid again. Looks like you're winning too.)
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To: Notary Sojac

“I hope he picks Graham too, just for the entertainment value of watching the McQueeg supporters on FR twist themselves into even tighter knots.”

I can hear the arguments now, “Well at least he didn’t pick Hillary!”

As if that is supposed to score him some points or something.


20 posted on 07/20/2008 6:21:36 AM PDT by Grunthor (I see you are playing stupid again. Looks like you're winning too.)
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To: Notary Sojac

St. Michael the Archangel could get the Democrat nomination, and Satan himself get the GOP. They would still rationalize a vote for ol’ Lucifer seven ways to Friday. Then, Satan picks Adolf Hitler from the abyss as running mate, they would find even more rationalizations on FR to vote in favor of the GOP over the Dem.


21 posted on 07/20/2008 6:36:22 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Accepting the REALITY & trying to reverse America's slow global economic decline, is true patriotism)
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To: Clintonfatigued

IT’LL NEVER HAPPEN.


22 posted on 07/20/2008 7:41:59 AM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Norman Bates
IT’LL NEVER HAPPEN.

Sure, just like the fact that folks here said just last year that McCain would never get the Republican nomination.

This election has entered The Twilight Zone.

23 posted on 07/20/2008 9:13:47 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." Ronald Reagan)
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To: upchuck
{is] honest, knowledgeable, insightful, creative, hard-working, adept at crossing party lines, politically courageous — and the smartest public official...

I suppose that would depend on what you consider "smart". I'm not familiar with the author of this drivel, but this line,

So Graham, like McCain, isn't far enough to the right for some conservative-base hardheads

...leads me to believe that he is on the (D) side of the fence. Another editorial by a Democrat giving advice to the Republican nominee.

24 posted on 07/20/2008 9:28:57 AM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword: folding)
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To: rabscuttle385

I’ve always maintained McCain will get the nomination going back to at least Feb ‘07.


25 posted on 07/20/2008 9:43:22 AM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Well, I would probably vote Satan before Obama. (Just kidding, I think)


26 posted on 07/20/2008 9:50:38 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: rabscuttle385

If he’s going for “trust”, I’d rather see Lieberman picked than Graham.


27 posted on 07/20/2008 9:52:50 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: SC Swamp Fox

As a “conservative-base hardhead” friend of mine said recently, “Lindsey isn’t a Democrat, but he might as well be.”

As a RINO, how far to the left can he go and still be considered a pubbie?


28 posted on 07/20/2008 10:19:00 AM PDT by upchuck (As we doggedly march towards dystopia, my poor country is losing it's mind. God help us!)
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To: upchuck
As a RINO, how far to the left can he go and still be considered a pubbie?

An interesting question, it prompted me to check out the ACU's Senate ratings.

Specter (44) has the lowest lifetime rating of all GOP Senators, followed closely by Snowe (49) and Collins (52).

For comparison:
DeMint 98
Graham 90
McCain 82
Clinton 7.7
Obama 7.7
Kennedy 2

The highest rated Democrat in the Senate is Ben Nelson of Nebraska with a lifetime rating of 52. His closest contender is Bill Nelson of Florida with a 39.

As much as I don't like Lindsey and Juan and many of their public statements their voting records are far to the right of even the most conservative Democrats in the Senate.

29 posted on 07/20/2008 11:16:24 AM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword: folding)
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To: SC Swamp Fox
Specter (44) has the lowest lifetime rating of all GOP Senators, followed closely by Snowe (49) and Collins (52).

We had a discussion on another thread (this one) about McCain's ACU rating. Apparently, McCain has missed a lot of votes, which were awarded to him anyways, producing the 82 rating. Adjusting for his missed votes, his actual rating is somewhere in the low 60s, putting him only a few clicks to the right of Snowe and Collins territory. Another important note is that McCain's ACU ratings were significantly higher pre-2000 compared to post-2000.

I'd be interested to see if Graham exhibits the same or similar phenomena, especially as he is on the campaign trail with McCain.

30 posted on 07/20/2008 12:01:32 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." Ronald Reagan)
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To: SC Swamp Fox

Those are interesting numbers, Swampy.

Thanks for posting.


31 posted on 07/20/2008 1:12:28 PM PDT by upchuck (As we doggedly march towards dystopia, my poor country is losing it's mind. God help us!)
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To: rabscuttle385
I'd be interested to see if Graham exhibits the same or similar phenomena,

<heavy sigh>Graham won the GOP primary </heavy sigh> and he faces no competition from the Democrats in November. He can now vote any way he wants for the next 6 years without fear of what us rubes back home think.

32 posted on 07/20/2008 1:17:35 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword: folding)
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