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ANTI-AMERICAN PROTESTERS HOLD HIROSHIMA DAY EVENT
SHATNERFAN1706

Posted on 08/02/2008 9:19:16 PM PDT by SHATNERFAN1706

Hiroshima Day remembrance. In California, Moonbats will be ragging on America again for defeating Japanese fascism. Corner of Seal Beach Boulevard and Pacific Coast Highway. Sunday, August 3, 2008. Counters are needed. From 3:00 PM to 5:00 PM.


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Hiroshima Day remembrance. In California, Moonbats will be ragging on America again for defeating Japanese fascism. Corner of Seal Beach Boulevard and Pacific Coast Highway. Sunday, August 3, 2008. Counters are needed. From 3:00 PM to 5:00 PM.
1 posted on 08/02/2008 9:19:17 PM PDT by SHATNERFAN1706
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To: SHATNERFAN1706

It is no contest... the bombs prevented the death of 1 million American soldiers from fanatical Japanese who had NO PROBLEM killing thousands of Chinese, Filipinos, and the Americans at Pearl Harbor.


2 posted on 08/02/2008 9:24:20 PM PDT by John123 (Obambi said that he has been in 57 states. I will now light myself on fire...)
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To: SHATNERFAN1706

The UN has a permanent and very prominent display regarding the “horror” of the “only time” nuclear weapons have been used by one nation against the other. It is also a major feature of their tour.

Business as usual for the ongoing, international anti-American enterprise.


3 posted on 08/02/2008 9:24:34 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: SHATNERFAN1706
ANTI-AMERICAN PROTESTERS HOLD HIROSHIMA DAY EVENT

Was Obama there?

Nancy Pelosi?

Jack Murtha?

4 posted on 08/02/2008 9:26:13 PM PDT by South40
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To: SHATNERFAN1706
i understand the need for the japanese people to solemnly remember hiroshima and nagasaki. that said, Americans should celebrate the day. in fact, we should roast a pig and celebrate one of the two days that saved the lives of c. 1 million American troops.

p.s. to borrow a quote from the monty python team (directed at the moonbats in cali.) "i fart in your general direction."

smoke 'em if you have too!

5 posted on 08/02/2008 9:27:38 PM PDT by robomatik ((wine plug: renascentvineyards.com cabernet sauvignon, riesling, and merlot))
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To: SHATNERFAN1706
In honor of Hiroshima day, here is an excerpt from my uncle's book, when he was imprisoned in a jap POW camp:

“The work got intolerable in the mine. We were on limited rations and many of the men felt they were going to die in the mine because the work was too hard and they didn't have enough vitamins or energy. They were too run down. It was just a matter of time before we'd die working down there.”

“Many of the men began making plans to break their arms and legs. If you could break an arm or have somebody break it for you, then you could get a month or so topside where you had a chance to get by on the rations and have light duty.... I had a friend named Mason and he decided to break his leg. He got a guy to help him and they were going to use a railroad iron to break the leg. They were beating on his leg with this railroad iron and it wouldn't break. Mason was talking to me afterwards and said, “Hamilton, whatever you do, don't try to break your leg.”

Fortunately for my uncle, before he died in the mines they dropped the bomb on Hiroshima, and ended the war. He told me without the bomb, he would definitely have died, along with many others.

I have no patience with people who whine about Hiroshima. There would have been hundreds of thousands more people killed without the bomb.

6 posted on 08/02/2008 9:32:48 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: SHATNERFAN1706

Guess the moonbats don’t realize we dropped the bomb on 6 Aug.....

Been there, visited ground Zero.

Lots of nice trees and a very large thriving city now days.


7 posted on 08/02/2008 9:37:33 PM PDT by ASOC
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To: SHATNERFAN1706

In June, 2001 the Smithsonian Institute had a special exhibit about the Enola Gaye. A PhD candidate for George Washington Univ was telling us tourists about the horrible atrocity the USA commited. I stopped her to ask some questions. You see, my father went into Normandy 2 days after D-Day. After the Nazis surrendered, he spent 38 days on a ship going through Panama to Okinawa. They were amassing forces there for a humongous invasion of Japan. I asked her if she knew how many projected Japanese would die? She did not. I told her (over 1 million), then asked how many projected Alliued forces would die? She did not. I told her (approx 500,000, the bombings seemed to pale in comparison), then I asked how the USA got into the war. She knew the answer, Pearl Harbor. So I asked her who attacked whom, then followed as to why she thought it would be better for far more Japanese to die, plus Allies, when the Japanese started it all with a treacherous suprise attack - even while their ambassadors were in Washington negotiating a treaty. Then I stated, “If the bombs had not been dropped, you wouldn’t be here telling us about it - and, because my father would likely have died - I wouldn’t either.”


8 posted on 08/02/2008 9:39:49 PM PDT by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: SHATNERFAN1706

I live in Hollywood and I didn’t even know there’s such a protest. It must be one of those “too small a blip” in the protest calendar.


9 posted on 08/02/2008 9:55:26 PM PDT by max americana
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To: SHATNERFAN1706

Well, since they are going to do it, we need to be the ones to remind them that it was a DEMOCRAT who dropped the bomb.

A DEMOCRAT caused the worst horror the world has ever seen.

DON’T VOTE DEMOCRAT-—THEY DROPPED THE BOMBS

DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS + DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT= TOTAL DESTRUCTION!


10 posted on 08/02/2008 9:58:39 PM PDT by tuckrdout (~ 'Those who hammer their guns into plows, will plow for those who don't.' ~)
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To: ASOC

I was just there in June. I get the feeling lots of moonbats think there is just a big still-smoking hole in the ground where a city was.


11 posted on 08/02/2008 10:01:55 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: tuckrdout

You forgot to add a photo of a young girl in the forefront pulling 10 leaves off of a flower — one at a time — counting down until a nuclear warhead detonates in the background. :-) / sarc.


12 posted on 08/02/2008 10:48:54 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: robomatik

Forget the roast pig. Go with fried rice.


13 posted on 08/02/2008 11:00:41 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: John123

It also saved the lives of Japanese civilians elsewhere in the country.


14 posted on 08/02/2008 11:09:42 PM PDT by Clemenza (McCain/Palin; Maverick and the MILF)
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To: Clemenza

From the movie “Crimson Tide”: (following a discussion about the merits (or not) about dropping the bombs)

RAMSEY: Did you think it was a mistake, Mr. Hunter?

HUNTER: Sir?

RAMSEY: Did you think it was a mistake, dropping the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

HUNTER: Well, if I thought that, sir, I wouldn’t be here.

RAMSEY: Interesting, the way you put that.

HUNTER: How’d I put it, sir?

RAMSEY: (pause) Very carefully. (other men chuckle). You qualify your remarks. Someone asks me if we should have dropped the bomb, a simple “Yes. By all means, Sir. Drop that f-—er. Twice!”


15 posted on 08/02/2008 11:39:07 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (About Obama: "Overinflated balloons pop suddenly and catastrophically." - Bill Dupray)
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To: DBCJR
The thing is ? this would be the same argument from the left if the Soviet Union had the bomb and bombed Hitler and Germany and they would be celebrating it every year in honor of communism... the reason they protest is not the supposed " horrible atrocity the USA committed " but, they are flat out plain anti-American.
If Hitler or Japan dropped a Atom bomb on the USA, the left would have said that we deserved it.
Liberalism is not only communism, it is a mental disorder.
16 posted on 08/02/2008 11:51:14 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: SHATNERFAN1706

To hell with these disgusting fifth columnists and their terror-loving hypocrisy. I do not believe in the moral sincerity of ANY peace hypocrite. They are all totalitarian sympathizers, using their pompous moral pronouncement to undermine freedom and promote dictatorship, terrorism, and nihilism.

I suggest we declare August 6th a national holiday of thanksgiving for peace, freedom, and victory.


17 posted on 08/02/2008 11:57:33 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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To: John123

“It is no contest... the bombs prevented the death of 1 million American soldiers from fanatical Japanese who had NO PROBLEM killing thousands of Chinese, Filipinos, and the Americans at Pearl Harbor.”

I can celebrate the bombing of Hiroshima.

My Dad was a Marine, injured at Okinawa and healed up, ready for the invasion of the Japanese mainland—when Truman decided wisely to save many lives, by taking a few.

It took the Shock and Awe of the first two nukes to rattle the fanatic Japs into ending their madness.

We might need to use Shock and Awe again, with the new version of fanatics. I’m deadly certain McCain has the wisdom, character, brains, patriotism to push that button, and equally sure Obama would not.


18 posted on 08/03/2008 12:08:34 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: SHATNERFAN1706

My wife and children would probably not be here today if we hadn’t dropped the bomb, but instead decided upon a land invasion.

My wife is a Japanese national who fully understands this, not because she’s my wife, but beacuse her 78 yr old Dad said exacty this.


19 posted on 08/03/2008 12:13:20 AM PDT by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: DBCJR
You don't even have to go as far as the invasion to prove your point about Japanese lives saved from dropping the A bombs. B-29 fire bombing raids were killing more than both bombs put together. Had we not dropped them, these raids would have needed to be continued burning most cities Japan to ashes.
20 posted on 08/03/2008 12:28:15 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
if the Soviet Union had the bomb and bombed Hitler and Germany and they would be celebrating it every year in honor of communism...

That is so true. We would hear nothing else but how the glorious Red Army saved the world with its wonderful A-bomb, how Stalin - the most benevolent leader in history - had no other choice but to use it, etc. And if the Soviets had invaded Japan and turned it into a slave-state, Japan would now be an impoverished country and the moonbats would present it as a model of how a country should be run, much like they now praise or at least excuse North Korea.

And if the moonbats really believe nuclear war is so terrible, why aren't they doing something constructive like protesting Iran's attempt to get the bomb? Instead, they have nothing but praise for Iran's efforts.

21 posted on 08/03/2008 12:35:21 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Wilhelm Tell

Let’s not forget that these are the same whacko’s that want to let Iran get the bomb and use it on us or Israel.


22 posted on 08/03/2008 12:54:42 AM PDT by Taylor42
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To: John123

Absolutely correct—Hiroshima was a life saver. The US had dropped tons of bombs on Japanese cities prior to that, with no effect whatsoever. The A-bombs let ‘em finally know we were serious.


23 posted on 08/03/2008 12:58:43 AM PDT by compound w
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To: SHATNERFAN1706
Ask them if the US had the bomb in 1944
would they have dropped it on Germany to stop the Holocaust?

These people are nothing but deniers and fascist apologists

24 posted on 08/03/2008 1:07:45 AM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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Image and video hosting by TinyPic "BOMBS AWAY" LeMay would have made a "Hole In The Water" in 4-5 months anyway,according to my Dad and some of his Buds,,,I was a big kid before I learned that "Damn" and "Jap" were two different words,,,My Dad was WIA on New Guinea(Port Moresby) 1943...Died 1973 from wounds...
25 posted on 08/03/2008 1:33:26 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

You are insane. I mean, only a lune, a fool, or a traitor would call America’s bombing of Hiroshima “bullsh**t”.


27 posted on 08/03/2008 1:41:34 AM PDT by compound w
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To: compound w

My post # 26 has been pulled,,,SO,,,

Go read Post # 25 “SIR”!!!
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“You are insane. I mean, only a lune, a fool, or a traitor would call America’s bombing of Hiroshima “bullsh**t”.”
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I See It’s OK To Call A Combat Vet Names “SIR”!!!

SAT CONG!!!


28 posted on 08/03/2008 2:04:12 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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29 posted on 08/03/2008 2:12:37 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: John123

If the US had to invade Japan, my dad’s battalion (760th FA BN) was set to go in one of the first waves. My dad - and most of his battalion - would probably not have survived.

My husband and I had the privilege of attending a reunion of my dad’s battalion. Only eight men there, and their wives.

Those men knew what was coming if they had to invade. They knew their chances of survival would be slim. You can imagine how they felt when Japan surrendered.

What they found when they went into Japan was that every man, woman and child was armed - even down to sharpened sticks - was expected to fight to the death. The dropping of that bomb was probably a relief for them as well. The old soldiers told us that the first day our soldiers occupied Japan, the people would not come out of their homes. They thought the American soldiers would be as brutal as their own soldiers. The day after that, when they realized that American soldiers weren’t like that, they came out of their homes and were actually very friendly and cooperative. They were glad it was over too.

I wish I’d asked my dad about it. I had to learn all of this at the reunion, and dad had passed away five years earlier, in 2000.


30 posted on 08/03/2008 2:50:50 AM PDT by sneakers (Liberty is the answer to the human condition.)
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To: tuckrdout

It’s probably one of the only good decisions a DEMOCRAT every made!


31 posted on 08/03/2008 3:00:36 AM PDT by sneakers (Liberty is the answer to the human condition.)
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To: GATOR NAVY

My son was there last year. (He’s navy - stationed in Japan), and said it really looks nice there - trees and landscaping - like a park, and modern buildings around it.


32 posted on 08/03/2008 3:02:40 AM PDT by sneakers (Liberty is the answer to the human condition.)
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To: SHATNERFAN1706

In years past Peter Jennings would have been the leader of the pack on this topic.


33 posted on 08/03/2008 3:42:39 AM PDT by Carley
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To: DBCJR
Operation Downfall was the overall Allied plan for the invasion of Japan near the end of World War II. The operation was cancelled when Japan surrendered following the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and the Soviet Union's declaration of war against Japan.

Operation Downfall consisted of two parts — Operation Olympic and Operation Coronet. Set to begin in October 1945, Operation Olympic was intended to capture the southern third of the southernmost main Japanese island of Kyūshū, with the recently captured island of Okinawa to be used as a staging area. Later, in the spring of 1946, Operation Coronet was the planned invasion of the Kantō plain near Tokyo on the Japanese island of Honshū. Airbases on Kyūshū captured in Operation Olympic would allow land-based air support for Operation Coronet.

Japan's geography made this invasion plan obvious to the Japanese as well; they were able to accurately deduce the Allied invasion plans and adjust their defensive plans accordingly. The Japanese planned an all-out defense of Kyūshū, with little left in reserve for any subsequent defense operations. Casualty predictions varied widely but were extremely high for both sides: depending on the degree to which Japanese civilians resisted the invasion, estimates ran into the millions for Allied casualties,[1] and tens of millions for Japanese casualties...

34 posted on 08/03/2008 4:29:15 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: John123
The Japanese had/have cultural and religious pride in their country. During the war, the fervor of the Japanese military was, in some ways, similar to Jihad, in this day and age. However, that being said, the distinctions - what makes them different -- is absolutely worth mentioning:

The Japanese were not strapping innocent children with bombs in order to kill people.

The Japanese were not forcing young men into forced servitude to perform Jihad.

What has never ceased to amaze me? How the MSM and liberals have tried to handle "Jihad" as tho "AQ/Taliban" were a country.

After 9-11, among the moonbatiest, I heard the refrain: Jihad is payback for Hiroshima, quite a number of times while in the SF Bay Area.

And how fascinating that members who helped organized the assault on 9-11 were also in the SF Bay Area; as well as a number of questionable cells, some provable/some not.

The attack on Pearl Harbor is never factored in; nor are any of the many, many "talks" the US was having with the involving warring countries. They did try the Obama "talking" line, time and time again. The U.S. and allied countries saw the Japanese escalation in force; and after repeated "talks" knew; the Japanese had to be stopped by force.

The liberals never think about those "talks". The liberals never give as fair time to thinking about the "talks" as they do to selective reasoning. And this is why they should not be elected President, CIC, etc. As they do not grasp the fullness of history and of historical lessons, they'd doom us to repeat past lessons. Lessons which have already been learned.

The Hiroshima Protest to be held is clearly a gathering of the historically impaired.

35 posted on 08/03/2008 4:56:42 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Alia
During the Clinton years there were "numerous" apologies ad nauseum for this, that, and the other. Recently congress "apologized" for slavery. This tells me, the historically impaired plan to enslave by another way; and to use the slavery issue for an end yet to be revealed.

"sorry", the word in Japan and in England have somewhat different meanings than in the American "sorry".

36 posted on 08/03/2008 5:01:47 AM PDT by Alia
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To: EyeGuy
When I visited the UN in 2004, there were only portraits of despots, and dictators in the lobby.
37 posted on 08/03/2008 5:05:35 AM PDT by MaxMax (I'll welcome death when God calls me. Until then, the fight is on)
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To: SHATNERFAN1706
Obviously, these morons had never heard of Operation DOWNFALL, in which the U.S. government secretly predicted hundreds of thousands of Allied casualties, and over a million Japanese. Many of us would not be here today if the atomic bombs had not been dropped since our grandfathers would have been killed taking the home islands.
38 posted on 08/03/2008 5:06:32 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: truth_seeker

“My Dad was a Marine, injured at Okinawa and healed up, ready for the invasion of the Japanese mainland—when Truman decided wisely to save many lives, by taking a few.”

....my Dad was at Okinawa too...he was with the 5th Marine Amphib group...they had just been through a 3 month battle with the Japs there and knew that invasion of the homeland would be even worse...I’m glad they dropped the bomb...my father came home alive.


39 posted on 08/03/2008 5:19:59 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: Greenpees
My wife is a Japanese national who fully understands this, not because she’s my wife, but beacuse her 78 yr old Dad said exacty this

One of my daughter-in-laws is a Japanese national also, and her dad (a history teacher in Japan) has said the same thing. He lost his parents in one of the bomb drops, but says he has no hard feeling against the U.S. for it. He completely understands.

40 posted on 08/03/2008 5:24:34 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: Leisler

Thank you for your scholarship on the subject. I wonder why that PhD candidate from George Washington Univ, who was the presentor at the Enola Gaye exhibit at the Smithsonian, was not aware of the knowledge you and I have on the subject. Almost seems like a pre-determined agenda.

Anyway, my questions embarrassed her in front of a very largw crowd. What haunts me is that our tax dollars were paying for her to keep spewing her distortions. That was one showing of several that day, everyday.


41 posted on 08/03/2008 6:20:56 AM PDT by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Thank you for your scholarship on the subject. I wonder why that PhD candidate from George Washington Univ, who was the presentor at the Enola Gaye exhibit at the Smithsonian, was not aware of the knowledge you and I have on the subject. Almost seems like a pre-determined agenda.

Anyway, my questions embarrassed her in front of a very largw crowd. What haunts me is that our tax dollars were paying for her to keep spewing her distortions. That was one showing of several that day, everyday.


42 posted on 08/03/2008 6:22:16 AM PDT by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: DBCJR
Thank you for answering a question I’ve had for a while. If you remember, when the Smithsonian was setting up the Enola Gay exhibit they wanted to display it in the most politically correct way possible but lost that battle last I heard. I was wondering what the left was going to do as they're not good losers and it seems in this case they made sure the guide spouts the “America bad” liberal line.

I read an article on the exhibit controversy several years ago. The head of the project was trying to defend the politically correct display of the Enola Gay the left was trying to get. His biggest argument was that it's not the job of the Smithsonian to showcase America in the best light possible. Turns out he was 100% wrong. It's in the Smithsonian's charter that they are supposed to show America at it's best.

43 posted on 08/03/2008 7:29:17 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: SHATNERFAN1706

These moonbats are racists pure and simple.

They have no regard for all of the people dying in slave labor camps in all of the areas conquered by the Japanese.
Chinese, Koreans, and others dying by the hundreds if not thousands every few days.


44 posted on 08/03/2008 7:31:23 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: I still care

“I have no patience with people who whine about Hiroshima. There would have been hundreds of thousands more people killed without the bomb. “

Ditto that. Please let you uncle know how much his service and his buddies’ services are appreciated.

My great-uncle (Dutch) and a family friend (Dutch) survived the Japanese POW camps, by some miracle.


45 posted on 08/03/2008 7:38:45 AM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader.)
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To: Alia

Thank you for your reply. You mentioned the “talks.” Well, Hitler used it to his advantage to take over most of Europe... nobody wanted to draw a line and everybody thought... if we “talk” it out... Hitler will see reason... and over 100 million people died...


46 posted on 08/03/2008 8:16:21 AM PDT by John123 (Obambi said that he has been in 57 states. I will now light myself on fire...)
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To: Clemenza
It also saved the lives of Japanese civilians elsewhere in the country.

excellent point!

47 posted on 08/03/2008 8:19:55 AM PDT by John123 (Obambi said that he has been in 57 states. I will now light myself on fire...)
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To: sneakers
I wish I’d asked my dad about it. I had to learn all of this at the reunion, and dad had passed away five years earlier, in 2000.

You may have not gotten an answer... many guys don't like to talk about it... my dad was in the Korean conflict and won't say anything about it.

48 posted on 08/03/2008 8:22:45 AM PDT by John123 (Obambi said that he has been in 57 states. I will now light myself on fire...)
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To: DBCJR
We are working to exhaustion to finance our own destruction.

Good book, a bit academic.


49 posted on 08/03/2008 8:27:01 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: I still care

That’s why we need a real Hiroshima Day to remember the lives saved by dropping the bombs.


50 posted on 08/03/2008 8:34:18 AM PDT by purpleraine
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