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Where There's Smoke, There's Government Intrusion
Fox News ^ | Monday, August 04, 2008 | John R. Lott, Jr.

Posted on 08/04/2008 6:19:51 PM PDT by richardb72

This is still a free country, right? Last week, the U.S. House of Representatives passed legislation to more closely regulate the wages that firms pay workers and to more strictly regulate tobacco products by putting them under FDA supervision.

The Los Angeles City Council also approved a one-year moratorium on new fast-food restaurants in a 32-square-mile low-income area in the city; the poor, after all, have “above-average rates of obesity” and must be protected from themselves.

Perhaps the government may just want to ask people if they are poor before we let them enter certain restaurants.

Barack Obama promises a national ban on smoking in public places. Such micro-managing of people's behavior will likely only get worse, as anyone who has been to countries such as Sweden can attest.

When I visited Sweden in back in 1979, Swedes were worried that binge drinkers were damaging their health. But shouldn’t how much people drink in the privacy of their own home be their own business? Not to other Swedes, who worried that the government health care system meant they would have to pick up others’ medical costs.

I watched the television news in horror as police broke into homes and took people to detox centers after neighbors alerted the government to people who they felt were drinking too much. But they were equally outraged that people would do things to their bodies that would make others pay for their health care.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: govwatch; johnlott; lp; regulation; smoking; tobacco

1 posted on 08/04/2008 6:19:52 PM PDT by richardb72
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To: richardb72
This is still a free country, right?

I think that, by the time you get around to seriously asking this question, it's long past time to toss the tea into the bay.

2 posted on 08/04/2008 6:22:16 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (when did the circus freak show escape and take over the entire world?)
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To: richardb72; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; nopardons; metesky; ...

NANNY STATE PING!!!!!!!!!!


3 posted on 08/04/2008 6:30:31 PM PDT by Gabz (You said WHAT?????????)
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To: Gabz
Here's a perfect example of FRs who support the NYC calorie law. Why am I not surprised that people want the government to do the work that they're supposed to do, even it it's minuscule? It's called “passing the buck.” I wonder what Ronald Reagan would think of the nanny state that we are becoming. God bless that great man's soul.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2055748/posts

4 posted on 08/04/2008 6:43:11 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Gabz
Great article. Thanks so much, dear Gabz! :-)
5 posted on 08/04/2008 6:43:40 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: richardb72

Oh, but don’t regulate or checkout those supplements or diet products. Yeah, right.


6 posted on 08/04/2008 6:44:25 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: richardb72

From Fox News. Thanks so much for posting.


7 posted on 08/04/2008 6:47:43 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: bamahead
America loving, freedom loving, defeat the nanny-state libertarian Ping!
8 posted on 08/04/2008 6:49:49 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady; All

It is not just the left who are nanny staters..


9 posted on 08/04/2008 6:58:31 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Hey Barak... I'm a citizen of the US not the WORLD!!!!!)
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To: richardb72
If you’ve ever seen Cool Hand Luke and remember the song “Plastic Jesus”. My rewrite will eventually add smoking eating and breathing

Obama

I’m ain’t scared of no Osama,
Long as I’ve got my own Obama,
Riding on the dashboard of my car.

He says he will save this nation,
All through proper tire inflation.
Add tune ups and I know he’ll take us far.

You sure need your own Obama,
Listen to his commie drama,
As he taxes all you make or save.

We don’t need domestic drilling,
All you need is to be willing,
Give up liberty and be his slave.

Go and get your own Obama,
He’s wiser than the Dalai Lama,
Leading us, to new hope and change.

If you don’t see his Marxist leaning,
Then your diaper must need cleaning.
As for me I’ll vote for John McCain.

10 posted on 08/04/2008 6:59:24 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: KevinDavis

You’ve got that right. I wish President Reagan were around to politely show those people (yes, even ours) the proper way to get things done.


11 posted on 08/04/2008 7:00:25 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Way too cool. Thanks! :-)


12 posted on 08/04/2008 7:01:24 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

Thanks for the heads up on that thread -— I just pinged the list to it.


13 posted on 08/04/2008 7:01:35 PM PDT by Gabz (You said WHAT?????????)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

SUPER!!!!!!!!!


14 posted on 08/04/2008 7:04:00 PM PDT by Gabz (You said WHAT?????????)
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To: Gabz
Cool. You'll be shocked how many FRs support this type of stuff when businesses have been doing it for years and have had it online for years as well. Shocking, just shocking, I tell you.
15 posted on 08/04/2008 7:04:09 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

I am over posting my happy little song! thanks : )


16 posted on 08/04/2008 7:04:56 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: GOP_Lady; All

Yet they are the same people who complain that Government is “too” big.. Go figure..


17 posted on 08/04/2008 7:05:26 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Hey Barak... I'm a citizen of the US not the WORLD!!!!!)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

LOL...John Prine would be proud.


18 posted on 08/04/2008 7:06:46 PM PDT by coolbreeze (giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teen-age boys.)
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To: richardb72
I watched the television news in horror as police broke into homes and took people to detox centers after neighbors alerted the government to people who they felt were drinking too much.

Dang! Gotta be real careful, next time I put $teak$ on the barbie...

19 posted on 08/04/2008 7:07:28 PM PDT by sionnsar (Impeach Obama |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: KevinDavis

I don’t think they know what they want.


20 posted on 08/04/2008 7:08:49 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Conspiracy Guy

May we have more serenading, please?


21 posted on 08/04/2008 7:13:10 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: sionnsar
No steaks on Barbies — global warming, don't you know.
22 posted on 08/04/2008 7:15:20 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady; All
Here is my philosophy:

I don't like porn, but I don't think it should not be banned (except child porn)

I don't like to drink munch, but I don't want alcoholic to be banned..

I like to eat fatty foods to a point, but I don't think the Government should be telling us what to eat.

I don't smoke, but I believe smokers have the same right.

I like to watch certain programs, if I don't like something I change the channel..

It is called the Mind your own business philosophy.. Sounds like neat party name: MYOB Party.. To stop the nanny statism..
23 posted on 08/04/2008 7:18:17 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Hey Barak... I'm a citizen of the US not the WORLD!!!!!)
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To: Gabz

What would you think if someone started a thread about Ronald Reagan and the nanny state? I’m trying to come up with a catchy and fun title for it though.


24 posted on 08/04/2008 7:19:29 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: KevinDavis

And it works 100% of the time when applied. Imagine that. I’m shocked I tell you.


25 posted on 08/04/2008 7:20:21 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

It would be interesting to say the least :)


26 posted on 08/04/2008 7:21:57 PM PDT by Gabz (You said WHAT?????????)
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To: GOP_Lady

How about “It Doesn’t Take A Village To Raise A Cowboy”


27 posted on 08/04/2008 7:25:45 PM PDT by coolbreeze (giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teen-age boys.)
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To: Gabz

: )


28 posted on 08/04/2008 7:25:53 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: coolbreeze

That very much has possibilities!


29 posted on 08/04/2008 7:26:59 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: coolbreeze

God rest his soul.


30 posted on 08/04/2008 7:27:00 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: coolbreeze
How about, “Mr. and Mrs. Americans, Tear Down this Nanny-State Wall.”?
31 posted on 08/04/2008 7:28:16 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

Or ...

“The Nanny State — The New Evil Empire.”?


32 posted on 08/04/2008 7:29:18 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

Or ...

“The Nanny State — The New Evil Empire.”?


33 posted on 08/04/2008 7:29:23 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

Let me work on a few ideas.

I have to get some sleep now.

Later


34 posted on 08/04/2008 7:30:42 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Good night to you and yours.


35 posted on 08/04/2008 7:31:10 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

Me is in Atlanta, mine is in Alabama. But we’re strong and we’ll catch you later.


36 posted on 08/04/2008 7:53:21 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: GOP_Lady; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...


Libertarian ping! To be added or removed freepmail me or post a message here.
37 posted on 08/04/2008 8:29:19 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Me is in Atlanta, mine is in Alabama.

Hey...me too! I've been an exile 10 years this month! Where in Bama?
38 posted on 08/04/2008 8:33:36 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: KevinDavis
Fascists always begin by targeting an unpopular and persecuted minority while other citizens say "Good, I didn't like those people anyway."; They had no idea that they were next. When you give government the power to go after something you hate, you also give them the power to go after something that you love.

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When they came for the drinkers during Prohibition, I did not speak out, as I was not a drinker.

When they came for the employees of the oldest profession in the world, I did not speak out, as I had no interest in purchasing sex.

When they came for the purveyors of what was deemed to be "obscene" or "offensive", I did not speak out, as I was not a fan of entertainers like Lenny Bruce or Howard Stern.

When they came to ban the female mammary gland from TV, I did not speak out, because Brian Boitano told me not to.

When they came for the marijuana smokers, I did not speak out, as I was not a marijuana smoker.

When they came for the steroid users, I did not speak out, as I was not a steroid user.

When they came for the _______ (insert nominally objectionable behavior here), I did not speak out as I was not a _________ (fill in the blank).

When they came for the fireworks buyer, I did not speak out, as I just sat on my lawn chair and watched the State sponsored 4th of July event

When they came for the pornographers, I did not speak out, as I was not a pornographer.

When they came for the people who don't wear seatbelts, I did not speak out, as I always wore my seatbelt.

When they came for the gun owners, I did not speak out, as I was not a gun owner.

When they came for the gamblers, I did not speak out, as I was not a gambler.

When they came for the "polluters", I did not speak out as I was not a polluter.

When they came for the SUV drivers, I did not speak out, as I did not drive an SUV.

When they came for the cigarette smokers, I did not speak out, as I was not a smoker.

When they came for the overweight and the obese, I did not speak out, as I was not overweight or obese.

When they came for the drinkers (again), I did not speak out, as I was not a drinker.

Then they came for me...and there was nobody left to speak out.

39 posted on 08/04/2008 8:40:11 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Gabz

Thanks for the ping!


40 posted on 08/04/2008 8:55:11 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: GOP_Lady
Re: Ronald Reagan and the nanny state:

" We're the United States, not the United Takes."

41 posted on 08/04/2008 9:20:05 PM PDT by IIntense (o)
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To: richardb72

How far off is the all out “War on Tobacco”(tm)?


42 posted on 08/05/2008 4:58:54 AM PDT by Free Descendant
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To: bamahead

Pinson. I am only in ATL for 2 weeks, Thank God.


43 posted on 08/05/2008 6:00:53 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: Free Descendant
How far off is the all out “War on Tobacco”(tm)?

Already lost.

44 posted on 08/05/2008 6:52:36 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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