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The Left and Plans for "Nuremberg-Style" Tribunals for Bush Administration Officials
The National Review ^ | August 06, 2008 | Byron York

Posted on 08/06/2008 7:33:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

One thing that hasn't received much attention in conservative and Republicans circles is the ongoing conversation on the left about the possibility of Nuremberg-style war-crimes trials for members of the Bush administration should a Democratic president take office. I'm not exaggerating or introducing the Nazi analogy myself; they actually use the phrase "Nuremberg-style" when they discuss "war-crimes tribunals." And they are quite serious (although the more moderate of them prefer a "truth commission.")

At the Netroots Nation gathering in Austin, Texas last month — that is the successor to YearlyKos — Dahlia Lithwick, of the Washington-Post-owned website Slate, did an interview with the Talking Points Memo site in which she described a panel discussion she had just taken part in on what is known as the "first 100 days of accountability." Among Lithwick's observations:

We're already falling into this trap of either positing Nuremberg-style war crimes tribunals, or nothing, immunizing everyone from John Yoo up and down…but everybody says there's a lot of gray area in between that, and that accountability doesn't necessarily mean Nuremberg, it doesn't necessarily mean nothing, it means possibly a truth commission, possibly appointing a special prosecutor to look at it…

Lithwick recommended a massive retrospective investigation of the Bush administration, going through every piece of paper, before moving forward:

Certainly long before we make a decision to do what Stuart Taylor suggested this week, which was immunize everybody in advance, or alternatively make a decision to trot them out before a war crimes tribunal before the whole world, we should really find out what happened…

But Lithwick recognized that there are those who argue such an action might be divisive:

We talked a lot about this notion that it's bad for America, that it will rip America apart if we have hearings or we have criminal trials or if we have war crimes tribunals. And I think it's really worse for America if we don't…

I think the thing to emphasize here is that this is a serious conversation going on among people who might have influential voices or play influential roles in an Obama administration. Many of them want to put John Yoo — a special favorite of theirs — on trial, whether before a Nuremberg-style tribunal, a criminal court, or a truth commission with as-yet unspecified powers. And, of course, they wouldn't stop with Yoo; if they had their way, they would likely have a long list of former Bush administration officials to put in the dock. They are serious.


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1 posted on 08/06/2008 7:33:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
the ongoing conversation on the left about the possibility of Nuremberg-style war-crimes trials for members of the Bush administration

"Mental Masturbation"

2 posted on 08/06/2008 7:35:24 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of the Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But Lithwick recognized that there are those who argue such an action might be divisive:

You think?!?!

Where is that Captain Obvious guy...

3 posted on 08/06/2008 7:36:57 PM PDT by chaos_5 (Nancy "Mad Cow" Pelosi, call the House back into session!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

liberal-socialists are

evil.


4 posted on 08/06/2008 7:37:18 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is scary.


5 posted on 08/06/2008 7:41:09 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Are we sure that Stalan hasn’t been reincarnated as Pelosi?


6 posted on 08/06/2008 7:41:26 PM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Obama wins, he will have to appoint an official under-bus-chucker to get rid of his faithful followers.


7 posted on 08/06/2008 7:41:47 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The the terrorist-loving left was hoping for a "civil war" in Iraq. If they keep this crap up, they'll get one here.

Hey lefty, shove this!!!! Photobucket

8 posted on 08/06/2008 7:43:13 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("I'm trying to save the planet!" - Nancy Pelosi ..........ROTFLMAO! What a dumbass!)
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To: Tzimisce

“This is scary.”

It’s unfortunate that there is really only one way to ultimately deal with people who group-think like this.


9 posted on 08/06/2008 7:43:53 PM PDT by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: mylife

“the ongoing conversation on the left about the possibility of Nuremberg-style war-crimes trials for members of the Bush administration”

The opening shots of the Second Civil War.


10 posted on 08/06/2008 7:44:24 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
immunizing everyone from John Yoo up and down…

John Who?

11 posted on 08/06/2008 7:45:01 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Constitutional Patriot

Lock, Load and Fire.


12 posted on 08/06/2008 7:45:10 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: Tzimisce

Very scary, time to stock up on ammo?


13 posted on 08/06/2008 7:45:43 PM PDT by Yogafist
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To: DarthVader

They really dont know when to quit do they?


14 posted on 08/06/2008 7:47:31 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of the Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

“Nuremberg-style war-crimes trials” have now been planned for:
1. Global warming deniers.
2. Bush and company.
3. Military leaders, soldiers and recruiters.
4. Rush Limbaugh.
5. Sean Hannity.
6. Israel.
7. Fathers.
8. Winners.
9. Christians.
10. Freepers.
11. You.

Its time to stop counting and start shining a light on these cockroaches.


15 posted on 08/06/2008 7:47:57 PM PDT by enduserindy (232 years and now we want to blow it?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
From another article posted last month:
"The House Judiciary Committee held a hearing Friday [July 2008] it insisted was not about removing President Bush from office. But critics of Bush's policies couldn't pass up the chance to charge the president with a long list of impeachable 'high crimes and misdemeanors.'"

Speaking of 'high crimes and misdemeanors', here are some facts I discovered and put together some time ago regarding the Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, John Conyers Jr...

The chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, John Conyers Jr of Michigan, is an endorser of the Revolutionary Communist Party call to "Drive Out the Bush Regime". So, if anyone needs to be 'investigated', it's that SOB. But since the republicans are mostly spineless cowards, I doubt it will ever happen.

Click on the WCW link just below and see: "Endorsers of the Call to Drive Out the Bush Regime Include". Conyers' endorsement appears right after Ward Churchill's. Al Sharpton's, Maxine Waters and Jesse Jackson Jr's endorsements are also on the list:
http://worldcantwait.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2538&Itemid=2

And on Oct 5, 2006, the demonRat chair of the House Judiciary Committee, John Conyers Jr, GAVE A SPEECH to the World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime organization. Here's full-page coverage of it from the WCW website:
http://www.worldcantwait.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3114&Itemid=243

Fact: World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime is a Maoist-revolutionary movement/organization initiated and controlled by the Revolutionary Communist Party. (scroll down the list that appears (after clicking link) to find the World Can't Wait organization --rwor.org is the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party):
http://rwor.org/a/rwlink/links.htm

From David Horowitz's FrontpageMag.com /DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
Profile: World Can't Wait (WCW)

*Revolutionary communist movement that stages protests against the Bush administration

*Organizes college and high-school students

*Founded in June 2005 by Charles Clark Kissinger, a longtime leader of the Revolutionary Communist Party

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7213

From the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party (revcom.us or rwor.org) :
"Create Public Opinion, Seize Power: We are preparing minds and organizing forces for the time when there is a major crack in the system, whenever it comes and wherever it comes from: an opening that makes it possible to bring the future Revolutionary Army of the Proletariat (R.A.P.) into the field and wage a revolutionary armed struggle that actually has a chance of winning. And we have said that building our party itself is the most important part of organizing forces for revolution. This is true now, and it is true looking forward to the creation of that future R.A.P. and the waging of that armed struggle.":
http://revcom.us/a/v20/1000-1009/1000/barw.htm

Also from the Revolutionary Communist Party website: "Tearing Up the U.S. Paper Tiger in Korea: How 300,000 Chinese Troops Snuck into Korea and Kicked the Ass of the U.S. Armed Forces" RW #1059, June 18, 2000:
http://rwor.org/a/v22/1052-059/1059/korea.htm

Here's the Revolutionary Communist Party (see link below) boasting of a FULL PAGE 'World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime' ad of theirs which appeared in the New York Slimes.(either "rwor.org" or "revcom.us" takes you to the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party). The NY Times has since allowed several additional full-page RCP/WCW ads.
Article title: "Who Hated the Bush Step Down Ad in the New York Times? ...And what that Tells Us About Why We Must and How We Can Drive Out the Bush Regime"(actual title)
http://www.rwor.org/a/028/who-hated-bush-ad.htm

16 posted on 08/06/2008 7:48:14 PM PDT by ETL (Lots of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl)
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To: mylife
"Mental Masturbation"

If Soros' Sock Puppet Obammie and his band of Anti-American ("God D@** America" & "I don't regret the bombings, I wish we had done more" &the Hamas fund raiser, et. al ) Fellow Travelers get in office, as seems more likely than not, it will be more than that.

17 posted on 08/06/2008 7:48:44 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rush said a long time ago: If the next terror attack in the U.S. occurs in 2020, it will be Bush's fault.

Of course the attack that occurred after he was in office for nine months was his fault too. Fo sho. (I stole that again from the most esteemed J. Goldberg.)

18 posted on 08/06/2008 7:49:13 PM PDT by synbad600
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

19 posted on 08/06/2008 7:49:18 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Actually, the far Right has similar dreams too, i.e. Nuremberg-style trials of Bush officials for having committed “treason” over immigration.


20 posted on 08/06/2008 7:49:51 PM PDT by nwrep (Obama - the first Mohammedan to run for the White House)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If they think that they can get away with it, they will do it in a heartbeat.

Why the Republican National Committee wants to give the White House to the Democrats I don’t know. But I know that they do because they are runnibg the weaket candidate that they could find. And they scheduled the primaries so that he would get the Republican nomination.


21 posted on 08/06/2008 7:49:53 PM PDT by sport
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To: proxy_user
If Obama wins, he will have to appoint an official under-bus-chucker to get rid of his faithful followers.

Actually I think he'll be pulling those folks out from under the bus. Except perhaps his "Typical White Person" grandmother, she'll probably be left down there.

22 posted on 08/06/2008 7:50:05 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wonder how many Americans would stand in the way of Federal authorities attempting to extricate Pres. Bush or VP Cheney from their residences upon refusing to participate in such a circus?


23 posted on 08/06/2008 7:50:15 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Black dogs and bacon bombs.)
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To: Yogafist

Couldn’t help a 2nd post. “time to stock up on ammo” don’t forget that new 2 year shelf life.


24 posted on 08/06/2008 7:50:16 PM PDT by enduserindy (232 years and now we want to blow it?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The same party that wants to disarm us and bring back the Fairness Doctrine.

Good luck with that. There will be a bloody revolution and Martial Law.


25 posted on 08/06/2008 7:52:26 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Yogafist
time to stock up on ammo?

Does a bear do it in the woods? Is the Pope Catholic?

26 posted on 08/06/2008 7:53:14 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That happens, and Civil War II is on, immediately.


27 posted on 08/06/2008 7:53:35 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: mylife

They will realize that they should have quit as they are being lined up against a wall and shot as traitors.


28 posted on 08/06/2008 7:54:40 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Never happen - this is like the calls here to try this or that Democrat politician for “treason” - either one would be political suicide for the party that tried it.

But to the extent that someone does want to take it seriously, what that is the basic argument argument against setting up extra judicial “tribunals” to try anyone - history demonstrates very clearly that once a government gets in the habit of using such techniques to try anyone, it becomes very tempting use them to try everyone.


29 posted on 08/06/2008 7:55:12 PM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Where are all those irrational McCain haters promoting that brilliant strategy “ LET OBAMA WIN SO WE CAN WIN REAL BIG LATER “ tonight ????????
30 posted on 08/06/2008 7:55:45 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: mylife

I’m with MyLife.


31 posted on 08/06/2008 7:56:57 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: sport
Do you McCain haters ever stop and think about the long term impact of your non stop McCain bashing ?? Apparently not ! McCain seems to be giving both the Obama media and Obama hell right now !
32 posted on 08/06/2008 7:59:36 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; MurryMom
And they are quite serious...

The impeached *Squirt averaged one Iraq bombing for every week he was in office. Where are the calls for his head?

33 posted on 08/06/2008 8:00:05 PM PDT by Libloather (August is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

** AMERICA’S REAL ENEMY **

The evil, anti-American left, that would burn this country to the ground, if they could RULE OVER THE ASHES. What a bunch of sick bastards.


34 posted on 08/06/2008 8:04:07 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: nwrep

Criminalizing policy differences...always works so well


35 posted on 08/06/2008 8:04:12 PM PDT by woofie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t care!


36 posted on 08/06/2008 8:04:12 PM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: ncalburt

I just call them like I see them.

But one thing is certain, after the first Tuesday in November, the Democrats will control the White House. Be it Obama, Hillary, or John Mc Cain.


37 posted on 08/06/2008 8:05:26 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport
they scheduled the primaries so that he would get the Republican nomination. Really?
38 posted on 08/06/2008 8:05:47 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Maybe certain people shoud read this book: War Crimes: The Left's Campaign to Destroy the Military and Lose the War on Terror

Bestselling author and military expert Lt. Col. Robert "Buzz" Patterson (Ret.) lays bare the Left's extensive campaign against all things military and how it severely compromises the ability to fight the war on terror.

Then go over mr. Clinton's past.

39 posted on 08/06/2008 8:07:04 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: sport

Looks like you have some time on your hands.


40 posted on 08/06/2008 8:08:07 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The left seems to love Nurmberg Style.

http://epw.senate.gov/fact.cfm?party=rep&id=264568
Federal Office of the Environment and Public Works has released this statement:

NUREMBERG-STYLE TRIALS PROPOSED FOR GLOBAL WARMING SKEPTICS


41 posted on 08/06/2008 8:09:31 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: nwrep
"the far Right has similar dreams too"

They aren't the far right. They are the EgoCons. They are delusional bug wits who by accident of circumstance happen to run in rightist circles. Severe BDSers who believe they, Regan, and Jesus are of the same mind.

Long standing Freepers or not they troll this site and are a large part of the reason the current quarter's fundraising took exceptionally long.


42 posted on 08/06/2008 8:10:29 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I suppose it might be “divisive” to hang all these left-wing traitors — but can we just send them all to colonize the Moon?


43 posted on 08/06/2008 8:12:21 PM PDT by Enchante (If oil was botox then Nancy Pelosi would have us drilling everywhere!!! (hat tip, STARWISE))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just imagine the upshot of this. Just imagine the former (true) independents sending post cards to their former lefty friends.

“Just Joined the Republican Party. Glad you aren’t here!”

Jusy imagine a liberal potty in decline!


44 posted on 08/06/2008 8:12:39 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: sport
after the first Tuesday in November, the Democrats will control the White House.

Nope. Not till January 20, 2009.

The fellow now in office ain't lame.

45 posted on 08/06/2008 8:16:25 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1993905/posts)
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To: wendy1946
"That happens, and Civil War II is on, immediately."

What form will that take? Vanity posts asking for debating points to use at social occasions with leftist friends and family?

It sickens me that after 9/11/01 the closest we have to modern American patriots still provide social and familial support to our nation's enemies.


46 posted on 08/06/2008 8:19:58 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think the thing to emphasize here is that this is a serious conversation going on among people who might have influential voices or play influential roles in an Obama administration. Many of them want to put John Yoo — a special favorite of theirs — on trial, whether before a Nuremberg-style tribunal, a criminal court, or a truth commission with as-yet unspecified powers. And, of course, they wouldn't stop with Yoo; if they had their way, they would likely have a long list of former Bush administration officials to put in the dock. They are serious.

There's something very Venezuelan about today's left in America. They have their claws so deeply into America, it may take 20 years of an American Pinochet to rid us of them. I'm not sure our republic has the ability to shake them off in its current form.

47 posted on 08/06/2008 8:23:39 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: DCPatriot

The problem is more serious than that; neither party wants the truth released. So you are sitting there, naked to the world, considering whether to invest in gold or the dollar or oil? Who won the last two years? Price of oil? Price of Gold? — Duh? Suck it up.


48 posted on 08/06/2008 8:23:55 PM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: sport
Can you Obama collaborators give the tired McCain rants a rest for a minute . Did the subject of this article penetrate your cloud of McCain hatred ? Your buddies at Moveon.org, Code Pink, ACCORN, and Answer try to heckle and harass McCain at his townhall meetings for a reason. To get a Marxist named Obama elected so they can have show trials involving the GOP and ex - Bush officials !
49 posted on 08/06/2008 8:27:16 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: DCPatriot

If that happens, we need to take the opportunity to eradicate Liberalism once and forever, no matter what it takes.


50 posted on 08/06/2008 8:27:42 PM PDT by FFranco
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