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How the Progressive Left Also Fights Dirty, Really Dirty (Intimidation of Donors-Must Read!)
The New Republic ^ | August 8, 2008 | Marty Peretz

Posted on 08/08/2008 3:22:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Actually, I don't think the right has played as dirty as this. A Times article by Michael Luo this morning unveils a new netroots enterprise, Accountable America, the unabashed purpose of which is to terrify conservatives from giving campaign money to Republican causes and Republican candidates. It's actually ingenuous.

You get a list of past Republican donors and send each of them one, two, many e-mails with the explicit warning that contributing to conservative campaigns may be dangerous to the donor's health. Or, as Luo puts it, "The warning letter is intended as a first step, alerting donors who might be considering giving to right-wing groups to a variety of potential dangers, including legal trouble, public exposure and watchdog groups digging through their lives." The letter will be in the mail next week.

Perhaps the second move will be to the head of a horse in the bed of the recipients or, better yet, put a bullet in their knee-caps. These people call themselves "liberal" and are called "liberal" by others. But they are really fascists, using terror as a means to close people's minds and checkbooks.

I'd like to learn what my candidate Barack Obama thinks of his friends.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008electionbias; 527groups; accountableamerica; achillwind; beer4myhorses; brownshirts; campaignfinance; cultureofcorruption; democrats; democratscandals; disenfranchised; dncbrownshirts; election; elections; electionviolence; extortion; feclaw; gop; howtostealanelection; illegal; intimidation; moveon; netroots; nutroots; obama; peretz; rico; stalinisttactics; tnr
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What are WE going to do about this?!
1 posted on 08/08/2008 3:22:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's actually ingenuous

It's actually illegal.

2 posted on 08/08/2008 3:23:30 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E. That spells free. freerepublic.com baby)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I believe the term was Brown Shirts right before they started locking people away in camps. Lovely, just lovely.


3 posted on 08/08/2008 3:24:06 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The road to hell is paved with the stones of pragmatism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is when you need a pit bull trial lawyer on your side. They have their uses.


4 posted on 08/08/2008 3:24:28 PM PDT by Parmenio
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Attempts to intimidate individuals from participating in the presidential campaign can be a violation of federal law. A key federal civil rights law (42 U.S.C. § 1985(3)), popularly known as the Ku Klux Klan Act, may be applicable if “two or more persons conspire to prevent by force, intimidation, or threat, any citizen who is lawfully entitled to vote, from giving his support or advocacy in a legal manner, toward or in favor of the election of any lawfully qualified person as an elector for President or Vice President, or as a Member of Congress of the United States; or to injure any citizen in person or property on account of such support or advocacy.”


5 posted on 08/08/2008 3:24:35 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E. That spells free. freerepublic.com baby)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This country is racing towards a civil war. This kind of fascism from the so-called liberals MUST be answered.

Who the hell to these creatures think they are?


6 posted on 08/08/2008 3:24:51 PM PDT by frankiep (Every socialist is a disguised dictator - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Judical Watch is already on this. It is absolutely illegal.


7 posted on 08/08/2008 3:25:32 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E. That spells free. freerepublic.com baby)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s not an original idea; just ask Kathleen Willey. When major media refuses to even look into outrages such as this, it creates the environment that permits it.


8 posted on 08/08/2008 3:26:53 PM PDT by Spok (Whatever you say about McCain, it must be admitted that he's no B. Hussein Obama.)
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To: All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2058774/posts


9 posted on 08/08/2008 3:27:20 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E. That spells free. freerepublic.com baby)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.accountableamerica.com/reward


10 posted on 08/08/2008 3:28:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Accountable America would seem to be the exact same organization as identified in their "reward" for reporting to them.

Our ol'buddy Lar' is probably after that reward so he's going to start by getting them Prosecuted and convicted!

It's a regular hoot!!! (Bwahahahaha~Leftwingtards are so utterly stupid).

11 posted on 08/08/2008 3:29:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why is this news?

Think of the Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, VietNam, North Korea or any Communist country.

Oh, I see. EuroSocialists don’t behave that way. They are our model.

Right!


12 posted on 08/08/2008 3:30:51 PM PDT by whitedog57
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would double my contribution if I rec’d one of those letters.


13 posted on 08/08/2008 3:31:39 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: muawiyah

If you look carefully at their website, you will notice that there is not a physical street address listed for the organization. I wonder why?


14 posted on 08/08/2008 3:33:41 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://tinyurl.com/5t2wke

http://tinyurl.com/5w9pyu

Tom Matzzie is founder and chairman of Accountable America. Tom has worked in progressive politics for more than a decade—with MoveOn.org, the AFL-CIO, the Campaign for America’s Future and campaigns at the presidential and statewide level. At MoveOn, he created ground-breaking campaigns on corruption and the war in Iraq that set the stage for the 2006 Democratic takeover. The MoveOn 2006 election program successfully targeted for defeat 29 out of 36 Republicans. The Politico wrote that the intensity of Tom’s campaigning, “rattled the entire Republican caucus.” The New York Times Magazine said of his work on Iraq that they are to progressives, “…what the NRA is to the Right.” Tom was named one of the “Forty Under Forty to Watch” by Washingtonian Magazine for his role as a leader in the emerging new politics. In addition to his campaign experience, Tom is an expert in Internet fundraising which will power Accountable America.

http://www.accountableamerica.com/people

Targets aka ‘Persons of Interest’

******

On November 11, 2007, the Washington Post reported that MoveOn’s Tom Matzzie has been hired to run an AAEI spin-off called Campaign to Defend America, “an independent money machine that will rival or eclipse what they created in 2004, when donors poured millions into two key outside-the-party organizations — America Coming Together and the Media Fund.

[M]uch of the anti-war group’s leadership hails from a consulting firm called Hildebrand Tewes Consulting — whose partners Steve Hildebrand and Paul Tewes served as staffers for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.

On May 14, 2008, the Washington Post reported that “Tom Matzzie, a leader of the liberal group MoveOn.org, teamed recently with David Brock, once a conservative journalist who is now a liberal media critic, to form Progressive Media USA, pledging to raise $40 million and lead the attack on McCain. The group has yet to air an ad.

Prior to joining MoveOn Tom was Director of Online Organizing for the Kerry-Edwards campaign —

From 2000 to 2004 he was Online Mobilization Director at the AFL-CIO building the union movement’s Internet program


15 posted on 08/08/2008 3:38:22 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

More here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2058774/posts?page=1


16 posted on 08/08/2008 3:39:37 PM PDT by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: Disambiguator

I thought this was a joke. I still have to wonder if it is a hoax. Who are they going to intimidate? Not us. I will contribute more now.


17 posted on 08/08/2008 3:40:50 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Many of us have already prepared for this....it's called a concealed-carry-permit.

Leftwing progressives need to consider that we on the right are the ones that have fought to keep 2nd Amendment privileges....and the potential need to counter Brown Shirt tactics like these was something we had in mind.

18 posted on 08/08/2008 3:42:38 PM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out O)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bump


19 posted on 08/08/2008 3:42:44 PM PDT by VOA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Looks like internet stalking, to me!


20 posted on 08/08/2008 3:44:29 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: mware
re: Judical Watch is already on this. It is absolutely illegal.)))

Under what theory?

21 posted on 08/08/2008 3:45:14 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

$oro$ and his Liberal cohorts try to intimidate everyone that they disagree with.


22 posted on 08/08/2008 3:46:23 PM PDT by Rosemont ($4+ for gas. Can we drill now?)
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To: Mamzelle
Under federal law.

Attempts to intimidate individuals from participating in the presidential campaign can be a violation of federal law. A key federal civil rights law (42 U.S.C. § 1985(3)), popularly known as the Ku Klux Klan Act, may be applicable if “two or more persons conspire to prevent by force, intimidation, or threat, any citizen who is lawfully entitled to vote, from giving his support or advocacy in a legal manner, toward or in favor of the election of any lawfully qualified person as an elector for President or Vice President, or as a Member of Congress of the United States; or to injure any citizen in person or property on account of such support or advocacy.”

23 posted on 08/08/2008 3:46:29 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E. That spells free. freerepublic.com baby)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Where does this Rat Pack intend to get the names and addresses? If they are obtained from FEC records, they can only be used for information purposes, to show that Smith donated to Jones, for instance.

If those names are used for fund-raising purposes, and preventing a flow of funds to your opponent is a fund-raising purpose, then this is a felony under election law. Believe me. Decades ago I represented a client who was charged under this law.

The proof of illegal use comes when mailings arrive in the mailbox of your "salted" names. Everyone who is required to present accurate names and addresses of donors of more than $200 is also entitled to "salt" the list by putting in a specified number of nonexistent names connected to genuine addresses.

Say that the fake name says John Jones, 123 Main Street, etc. When a piece of mail arrives at that address and sent to that name, it is evidence that whoever mailed it either violated the FEC law himself, or used a list supplier who violated the law.

These Democrat clowns are probably too stupid to realize that they have announced, in advance, their intention to commit felonies under FEC law.

Congressman Billybob

Tenth in the ten-part series, "The Owner's Manual (Part 10) -- The Remaining Amendments"

Latest article, "A Scandinavian Skeleton in a Southern Closet"

24 posted on 08/08/2008 3:47:53 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Why do taglines sometimes just disappear? www.theacru.org)
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Tom Matzzie’s failed antiwar media efforts, especially the collapse of Matzzie’s “Fund For America,” a failed financial front group for the radical left.

“We want to stop the Swift Boating before it gets off the ground,” said Mr. Matzzie, who described his effort as “going for the jugular.”

http://tinyurl.com/5pvybt

Judd Legum, who was the research director for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s presidential campaign, has signed on to play the same role for Accountable America.

Accountable America has singled out some major Republican donors, including Sheldon Adelson, a billionaire casino mogul, and Mel Sembler, a former ambassador and real estate magnate, both major donors to Freedom’s Watch, a conservative group.

http://tinyurl.com/5dn3ga

Tom Matzzie & Sara Choate, a field organizer

Tom Matzzie was one of the masterminds of the blunder-prone Kerry campaign, and an activist for the AFL-CIO


25 posted on 08/08/2008 3:49:25 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tom Matzzie, MoveOn.org @ “Hostile Takeover” Book Event

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK_3y63Sqhk


26 posted on 08/08/2008 3:50:04 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: frankiep
This country is racing towards a civil war.

Perhaps, but it will be a short one. One side believes in the Second Amendment. The other side doesn't. Poor odds.

27 posted on 08/08/2008 3:50:26 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

September 7th, 2006

Chris Matthews to MoveOn’s Tom Matzzie: “I’ve always wanted to meet you, you’ve got a lot of influence.”


28 posted on 08/08/2008 3:52:37 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Congressman Billybob
re: If those names are used for fund-raising purposes, and preventing a flow of funds to your opponent is a fund-raising purpose, then this is a felony under election law. Believe me. Decades ago I represented a client who was charged under this law.)))

So even though fundrace.org and newsmeat.com are very cool websites to nose around in--how the info in used can get you in hot water.

29 posted on 08/08/2008 3:54:06 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Congressman Billybob
Couldn't they be sued under RICO and the KKK act simultaneously?
30 posted on 08/08/2008 3:55:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tom Matzzie, the man behind MoveOn’s “General Betray Us” ad

http://tinyurl.com/6e8gqx


31 posted on 08/08/2008 3:56:06 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Two thoughts:

1) Any group threatening assault and intimidation is in violation of the RICO statutes - if it worked against the mob, it will work against the nutroots;

2) Most conservatives are armed and don't take kindly to threats.

32 posted on 08/08/2008 3:57:37 PM PDT by mojito
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To: Congressman Billybob

Ernst Rohm and the Sturmabteilung would be proud of these guys. And you know they’re stepping over the line when the New Republic turns on fellow lefties like this.

}:-)4


34 posted on 08/08/2008 4:01:46 PM PDT by Moose4 (http://moosedroppings.wordpress.com -- Because 20 million self-important blogs just aren't enough.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You forward such e-mails to the FBI. You make a hard copy and take them to the local police. Internet threats and stalking are a crime.


35 posted on 08/08/2008 4:03:44 PM PDT by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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To: Mamzelle

“Under what theory? “

Who is putting up the 100k?


37 posted on 08/08/2008 4:08:05 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wonder if BOR knows about this.


38 posted on 08/08/2008 4:08:24 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Good point. But I don’t think these Soros thugs have to name their donors.


39 posted on 08/08/2008 4:09:21 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Noumenon

They used Google Earth on VP Cheney, didn’t they?

Find out where these goblins live, and tell the world!

Worthless b@stards!

):^(


40 posted on 08/08/2008 4:13:08 PM PDT by elcid1970 (My cartridges are dipped in pig grease)
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To: muawiyah

I went to the web site and searched for “scratch a liberal find a nazi”, “liberal nazis”, and “you’re a bunch of liberal nazis” about twenty times each. I don’t know if they log their searches, but if they do it could be kind of fun. Too bad I can’t see their reactions.


41 posted on 08/08/2008 4:58:19 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (I have Zero Tolerance for Zero Tolerance policies.)
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To: Deetes

Good way to fire up the base .


43 posted on 08/08/2008 5:08:52 PM PDT by Deetes (God Bless the Troops .)
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To: Congressman Billybob

They claim they got their list of 10,000 donors from a conservative outfit that wishes to remain anonymous.


44 posted on 08/08/2008 5:12:13 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: Deetes

BTTT


45 posted on 08/08/2008 5:15:54 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Obama: The presumptuous democratic nominee)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“how the progressive left also fights dirty.”

if this is true, these people are absolute scu&bags.

the problem is that they will not show their faces but get people when their back is turned.

they might play their game but there might be those who will not accept their psychotic, adolsescent antics any longer. irresponsible and stupid rhetoric is one thing. threats against a citizen because he does not agree with them is unbridled lawlessness. to say they are fomenters of revolution is an understatement.

but, then again, the big, bad left wing scu&bags who need toilet training will never come into the sunlight and declare themselves. they’ll operate in darkness, subterfuge and hide behind a lawyer; scu&bags one and all.

IMHO


46 posted on 08/08/2008 5:18:34 PM PDT by ripley
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To: mware

That is very good to hear! I figured it was against the law to try to intimadate people for exercisign their right to support anyone they want for President. Hopefully they will bleed them of all of their money and whoever thought this up will be guilty of a felony that will prevent them from voting ever again!

Now WOW this is from the New Republic? WOW!


47 posted on 08/08/2008 5:20:00 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Bon mots

Please don’t post personal info again.
AM


48 posted on 08/08/2008 5:20:15 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Disambiguator
If you look carefully at their website, you will notice that there is not a physical street address listed for the organization. I wonder why?

Because a hothead like me might show up there with a tire iron and start breaking skulls?

49 posted on 08/08/2008 5:27:25 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Cthulu '08! Why vote for the lesser evil?)
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Please don’t post personal info again.

I put that in two places (threads). I'll find the other and hit the abuse button... 2 mins... Sorry.

If anyone wants to write or call these creeps, let me know. I will gladly share the phone/address in a private message.

50 posted on 08/08/2008 5:52:09 PM PDT by Bon mots
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