Posted on 08/10/2008 3:50:04 PM PDT by EveningStar
Last November, radio host Michael Medved was made a Senior Fellow at the anti-evolution “think tank” known as the Discovery Institute, and he has some rather interesting things to say about “intelligent design:”
(Excerpt) Read more at littlegreenfootballs.com ...
“The evidence suggests that like the earth, life also came from SOMEWHERE ELSE...”
Where is this place?
Then define where the Creator came from. We cannot discuss ID without a Creator. So where is the proof of a Creator, and where dd the Creator come from?
“Then define where the Creator came from. We cannot discuss ID without a Creator. So where is the proof of a Creator, and where dd the Creator come from?”
I’m not here to defend my beliefs to people who cling to bad science for the sole purpose of denying God. That’s a waste of my time.
Matchett-PI: “There are only two choices (religions).”
hunter112: “Do I need to direct you to a website to show you that there are myriad religions invented by the mind of man? ..
All the worlds religions can be boiled down into two religions: [1]God is God [2] Man is god.
You’re merely talking about the myriad philosophies (as many as there are men to hold them) that make up catagory [2].
hunter112: “As an atheist, I think they all were...”
I agree - including atheism. “A confession of atheism is simply an honest confession of ignorance of any realities that transcend the human ego, nothing more, nothing less. And why argue with a man who not only clings to ignorance, but is proud of the fact?
“..For reason is only a faculty of knowing something indirectly in the absence of direct vision, while God is known directly, the same way one knows one is alive, perceives reality, or is aware of free will. In order to see something, it is not necessary to logically prove the existence of sight. Many of the most important truths are known simply by their “superabundance of clarity,” by pure intellect, not by the reason which is its servant. Reason is not Intelligence in itself, only an instrument of intelligence. Few things create more mischief than reason in the hands of an unintelligent or immoral wonker. .[..]Not for nothing did Richard Weaver say that “every attack upon religion is inevitably an attack upon mind.” Naturally there are many forms of stupid religion, for there is nothing touched by humans wonkers that cannot be made stupid. But at least religion as such does not exclude the possibility and priority of Intelligence, and therefore, Truth. ...” ~ Gagdad Bob
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2038869/posts?page=319#319
The most profitable way to deal with vulgar minds like Dawkins, et.al.: “..The Dawkinses have always been with us. Five years from now they will be replaced by some new fad that feeds on death. ..”
http://thomism.wordpress.com/2008/08/08/the-comment-that-turned-into-a-post/
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hunter112: “Nobody’s been able to 1) prove intelligent design and 2) connect it to their sect in any convincing way.”
I agree. It’s like someone trying to detect “mind”.
How Blind Lizards Make Nonsense of Darwinist Claims
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8580258&postID=3909965284566933849
Here’s more:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2038869/posts?page=100#100
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2038869/posts?page=117#117
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2038869/posts?page=237#237
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2038869/posts?page=314#314
More:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2038869/posts?page=15#15
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2038869/posts?page=21#21
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2038869/posts?page=25#25
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2038869/posts?page=35#35
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2038869/posts?page=36#36
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2038869/posts?page=37#37
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2038869/posts?page=39#39
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2038869/posts?page=46#46
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2038869/posts?page=49#49
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“Evolution might or might not be able to account for the complexity of our brains, per se, but it’s mute and powerless to “explain” the higher products of our brains, which are of course by far the most complex objects yet known to us anywhere in the universe. Many agnostic and atheist philosophers, mathematicians, and scientists have stated this much in frank terms.
Our ability to do higher mathematics, for example, was utterly irrelevant to our survival in evolutionary termsour ancestors needed to know absolutely nothing about topology or fractals, manifolds or tensors, even differential calculus, in order to outwit mammoths and saber-tooth tigers. Nor did they need to know the profoundly shocking fact (from the point of view of naturalism) that mathematics of the kinds just mentioned is incredibly powerful for understanding the external worlda fact that just cries out for a deeper explanation. Pinker, Dawkins, Dennett and company are flying into the face of the facts on this one.
We can not only do mathematics, but our mathematics actually matches the subtlest details of the external world.
How does this make any sense at all, if we aren’t in a very real sense created in the image of God, the divine mathematician (as Kepler, Galileo, and Copernicus regarded God) who also created the external world?”
~ Ted Davis 3/24/08 Professor of the History of Science Web page: http://home.messiah.edu/~tdavis/
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No, but it would indicate that they had a common ancestor, wouldn't it?
There are, in fact, thousands of them.
The horse transitional forms are particularly complete. But none of this will mean anything to you since you are determined to live in denial.
I believe God created the evidence that leads scientists to believe in evolution, such as intermediary fossils in rock strata deposited by His own divine hand.
Are you saying God created the fossils to trick scientists, or that they actually were creatures roaming the earth who became fossilized?
Well then what's the term for the insane belief that all things... mangoes, hummingbirds, Claudia Schiffer.... all came from sludge?
It begs the question: Is it possible that the demonic influence in this spiritual war is a major reason why people don’t accept Jesus (or they follow false gods) because they refuse to investigate for themselves, VERY SIMPLE prophesies that would otherwise settle the issue?
I will take you up on your challenge : ) Obviously we can't go through all 300 prophecies that you claim were fulfilled by Jesus. So can you pick the clearest, most accurate, simple, prophecy that Jesus Christ fulfilled and we will discuss that. With 300 prophecies it should be easy to pick a very good prophecy to use as evidence : )
I’ve never heard a proponent of evolution say that.
So, why would He need six days? He seems to be a little bit clumsy for an omnipotent being...
Conclusion: Don't try to understand his motives - when He wanted to create evolution (and that's what the evidence is hinting to), he created evolution.
I never paid much attention to that. “Primordial soup” is just one of several theories or hypotheses along those lines. I don’t know how big of a following this has in the scientific community.
I didn't think it was.
You could start with Mark 9:1. That’s a good one.
Yeah I like that one :) Christ really screwed that prophecy up didn't he.
When I first started challenging Christians to show me a fulfilled prophecy, I was certain that there must be at least a couple of clear precise prophecies that were fulfilled by Jesus the Christ and that clearly pertained to Jesus the Christ.
It has been rather eye opening to discover that there aren't any at all. It seems to me that with the thousands and thousands of prophecies in the Old Testament and the fact that the Christians had a couple of hundred years to change the stories about Christ that the could have matched at least a few precisely.
I completely understand now, why the Jews as a whole never believed in Christ. Christs message when he was alive seemed to be to forget all the prophecies I will fulfill them later : )
If so, then why would He mention six days as the time structure? There must be some meaning behind that.
Gen 2:1-2(ESV) And on the seventh day God finished his work that he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work that he had done. So God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it God rested from all his work that he had done in creation.
That's a very peculiar statement that God would rest on the seventh day and call it holy and then later command that the seventh day of the week be make a holy day.
That's the same exact question I ask the evolutionist. Why would God need such an ugly method such as evolution?
Especially when you have no God to define love. Now all you have is everybody's subjective opinion on what love is, yet you have no authoritative standard. What a predicament Humanism is. God is love while Humanism is [insert absurd statement here].
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