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Schröder blames Georgia for crisis with Russia
thelocal.de ^ | 16 Aug 08

Posted on 08/16/2008 7:31:37 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Former Chancellor Gerhard Schröder has criticized Georgia for the war over South Ossetia, calling Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili a gambler, and warning against allowing the country to join NATO.

In an interview with Der Spiegel magazine due out on Monday, Schröder said he thought Georgia’s chances of joining the transatlantic alliance had moved “even further into the distance,” following the fighting with Russian forces.

Schröder’s comments are sure to be scrutinized due to his close personal and political friendship with former president and current Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, as well as his acceptance of a Gazprom job immediately after leaving office.

Schröder said he would support the idea of sending German troops as part of a potential peace-keeping mission under the auspices of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe.

But he added that should such a mission be instigated without the explicit support of Russia, “I would not like to see any German soldiers stationed there.”

Russia was not pursuing an annexation policy in the Caucasus, he said, and said he saw no reason for the concept of “strategic partnership” between Germany and Russia to be affected by the war.

“I reject the idea of demonising Russia. I consider Russia as a part of Europe,” he said.

Schröder has been heavily criticised for his dealings with Russia during and immediately after holding office.

While still in office, he and his wife Doris adopted a young Russian girl, and later adopted a Russian boy.

He described Putin as a good democrat as the rest of the world was starting to seriously doubt his democratic credentials, and took a lucrative job at a Gazprom subsidiary company after leaving German political office.

His appointment at the company responsible for building a controversial Gazprom pipeline under the Baltic Sea was defended by the then Gazprom vice president Dmitri Medvedev – now the country’s president.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; Russia
KEYWORDS: geopolitics; georgia; gerhardschroder; russia; saakashvili; schroder; schroeder; southossetia; war

1 posted on 08/16/2008 7:31:38 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I expected nothing less from Schröder.


2 posted on 08/16/2008 7:32:41 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I’m sure he blames the Czech’s for Sudetenland too.


3 posted on 08/16/2008 7:33:35 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Well, it’s about time someone asked you to start working for your rubles, Gerhard.


4 posted on 08/16/2008 7:33:55 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Tailgunner Joe

you gotta love europe.... I like the nachos.... ... or is it .... no ... i hate europe.


5 posted on 08/16/2008 7:34:26 PM PDT by Porterville (Mac Daddy Daddy Mac!!!!! 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

there’s probably some truth to that. the georgians have been unfair to the abkazians and ossetians; their mutual hatreds go back centuries.

this said, does europe want cheaper gas and oil?

will europe defend the pipeline?

i don’t think so, from what i read in the euro press.


6 posted on 08/16/2008 7:35:34 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: Army Air Corps

How do you say “chutzpah” in straight-up german?

I can’t believe that bought-and-paid-for whore has the cojones to show his face. He shoved through a law favoring Gazprom as one of his last acts as Chancellor then immediately went on Pooty’s payroll the moment he left office.

Unfricken’ believable.


7 posted on 08/16/2008 7:36:00 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: Tailgunner Joe
He described Putin as a good democrat as the rest of the world was starting to seriously doubt his democratic credentials, and took a lucrative job at a Gazprom subsidiary company after leaving German political office.

Well, he did have to find a new revenue stream after that Iraq Oil for Food scheme came to an end in 2003.

8 posted on 08/16/2008 7:37:06 PM PDT by OCC
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To: OCC

LOL!!!good one!


9 posted on 08/16/2008 7:39:29 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (GOD BLESS GEORGIA! SAVE GEORGIA, OUR ALLY, NOW!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Once a leftist always a leftist.


10 posted on 08/16/2008 7:40:00 PM PDT by Maelstorm (John McCain is ready to be commander in chief)
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To: ken21

and you know this about the Georgians how?


11 posted on 08/16/2008 7:40:25 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (GOD BLESS GEORGIA! SAVE GEORGIA, OUR ALLY, NOW!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I guess Putin needed a puppet for the hand he's not using for Medvedev.
12 posted on 08/16/2008 7:40:45 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Whale oil: the renewable biofuel for the 21st century.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Wow, we knew Schroeder was Putin’s whore but this is too much. He thinks he has to not only sell his body to Putin but also pretend to ‘love’ his client. What a pathetic grovelling socialist POS.


13 posted on 08/16/2008 7:43:18 PM PDT by Enchante (Obama-cons: Trying to fool America, one media dupe at a time!)
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To: OCC
He described Putin as a good democrat as the rest of the world was starting to seriously doubt his democratic credentials, and took a lucrative job at a Gazprom subsidiary company after leaving German political office.

Well, he did have to find a new revenue stream after that Iraq Oil for Food scheme came to an end in 2003.

I have a brother who works in Hollywood (actually Burbank) doing film editing. So he is in a cess pool of lefties. He told me, "I haven't yet met a socialist who can't be bought."

My brother has a gift for concise commentary.

14 posted on 08/16/2008 7:44:54 PM PDT by Lysandru
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To: sinanju

He’s trying to get Merkel and the German people to be neutral about what’s going on in Georgia, so they won’t think along other lines now seeing how Russia can pull a country’s strings by using oil as a cudgel. He wants them dependent on Russia so he can make more money off his Gazprom interests. What a scumbag. He always was one. An anti-American and even anti his own country scumbag.


15 posted on 08/16/2008 7:45:10 PM PDT by flaglady47 (South Ossetia = Kosovo - thanks Bill Clinton)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

reading history and newspapers all of my life, and most recently:

>>>While Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin undoubtedly ruthlessly exploit the tensions in South Ossetia and Abkhazia, it is a foolish mistake to think they created them. Ossetians and Abkhaz remember all too well the aggressive and unpleasant Georgian nationalism during the early 1990s, and have no desire to be part of a Georgian state. Meanwhile, after the wars in both regions at that time, many ethnic Georgians still live as refugees in grim conditions in Tbilisi and other Georgian cities.<<<

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ethnic-tensions-war-in-the-caucasus-is-stalins-legacy-899615.html


16 posted on 08/16/2008 7:45:40 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Comrade Schroeder is on Putin's payroll.
17 posted on 08/16/2008 7:45:59 PM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Did he blame the Polish for provoking Hitler, too?


18 posted on 08/16/2008 7:47:59 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The Soviet Union is back. Their oil money is going to solidify Putin's political hold and rebuild the military. Intense nationalism and socialist control of business as compared to Communism? Well you have more efficiency and the western financing is a big help.

It will take some rhetorical adjustment but I expect the useful idiots in America to fall into line directly. After all aren't Georgia, the Baltic States, Poland and the Ukraine just in Russia's legitimate "sphere of influence". You just can't expect Russia to tolerate hostile governments on her borders. I'll bet someone besides Schröder is soon at Putin's side. Obama, perhaps?

19 posted on 08/16/2008 7:50:07 PM PDT by JimSEA (just another liberal-bashing fearmonger)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Schroder is in bought and paid for by Putin. Just another Marionette on strings pulled by petrodollars.

Just another politician that sells out his own country for the highest bidder.

Same ol’ song and dance.


20 posted on 08/16/2008 7:50:58 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Headline = DUH


21 posted on 08/16/2008 7:51:09 PM PDT by NordP (Peace thru STRENGTH--because if the bully thinks you're weak..."just words" don't mean a thing!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Isn't this the same Schröder that literally works for Putin's oil extortionists? The Germans ought to disown him.
22 posted on 08/16/2008 7:55:57 PM PDT by DB
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To: Tailgunner Joe

>>>“I reject the idea of demonising Russia. I consider Russia as a part of Europe,” he said.

chancellor angela merkel contributed to this invasion by rejecting georgia,

as did speaker of the house nancy pelosi in not supporting the u.s. policy of president george bush.


23 posted on 08/16/2008 7:56:04 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

From http://www.answers.com/topic/gerhard-schr-der :

“Schroder combined his profession and his politics, becoming noted for defending Red Army Faction terrorist Horst Mahler in a parole hearing... By 1978, he had completely embraced mainstream Marxism and was busy organizing protests against the United States and the deployment of NATO missiles in Germany.”


24 posted on 08/16/2008 7:59:23 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Schroeder is a payling of the Russian Gas Mob.


25 posted on 08/16/2008 8:03:05 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Bernanke is a Monetary Slut!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

More info about the German terrorists Schroder helped to defend.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-528611/Clowns-terror-The-Baader-Meinhof-gang-hopelessly-incompetent-befuddled-drugs-casual-sex.html


26 posted on 08/16/2008 8:22:35 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie
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To: Uncle Miltie

Schroeder is a whore. He and his ilk have caused so much havoc in this world I hope he isn’t around for too much longer.


27 posted on 08/16/2008 8:22:39 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Blowhard Schroeder was a Bader-Meinhof stooge so it’s no surprise..


28 posted on 08/16/2008 8:23:09 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Wie sagt man “sock puppet” auf Deutsch?


29 posted on 08/16/2008 8:24:02 PM PDT by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
schroeder putin puppet

30 posted on 08/16/2008 8:29:28 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Tailgunner Joe

He was a Kremlin mole


31 posted on 08/16/2008 8:35:13 PM PDT by We Dare Defend Our Rights
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Deutschland Uber Alles Shroeder.

Clueless Shroeder, unless they stand behing Georgia instead of CYA-ing, the Russians be knocking on their door within 10 years.

Sometimes I think the Germans are just as hopeless as the French.

32 posted on 08/16/2008 8:46:39 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (Ridicule Obama))
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To: Army Air Corps

“I expected nothing less from Schröder.”

He’s emblematic of the thinking of the Left. Go to Democratic Underground or Daily Kos... they’re saying the same thing... Russia is the good guy, the whole west is the bad guy.


33 posted on 08/16/2008 8:46:42 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Schroeder musta heard dey got dem der Joos over der in Georgia. Must be dem der Joos fault!


34 posted on 08/16/2008 8:57:35 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: Tailgunner Joe
He probably blames the Czechs for attacking the Germans in 1938.


35 posted on 08/16/2008 9:06:20 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

This guy was bought by Russia. Why does anyone listen to him? This was far more blatant than the Clinton/China dealings.


36 posted on 08/16/2008 11:06:57 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Army Air Corps

Some things are just so predictable.


37 posted on 08/16/2008 11:27:21 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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