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Is it True McCain "Got the Message" About not Running a Pro-Abortion VP?
LifeSiteNews ^ | 8/20/08 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 08/20/2008 4:14:27 PM PDT by wagglebee

WASHINGTON, August 20, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Fox News had many American moral conservatives very pleased yesterday with a report from unnamed Republican National Committee officials that "senior McCain advisers and aides have told GOP officials that McCain 'got the message' last week that choosing a running mate who supports abortion rights would not be helpful." The news came in reaction to an uproar from the Republican base after Senator John McCain floated the possibility of pro-abortion Pennsylvania Governor Tom Ridge as a potential running mate last week.

The message from the conservative base of the Party was voiced plainly by famed radio pundit Rush Limbaugh in his signature commentary yesterday. In a blast titled, "Choose Wisely, Senator McCain", Limbaugh pointed out that leftist pundits were promoting a pro-abortion pick for McCain knowing that it would lead to certain defeat as McCain would be abandoned by his base.

"They're just hoping for it because they know it's not just a few loudmouths in the base. They know the base will totally turn on McCain if this is the case," said Limbaugh. "It's about finding a way to persuade McCain to make a decision that will guarantee his defeat."

Getting right to the point, Limbaugh suggested that "if the McCain camp" selects a "liberal Republican on this, particularly pro-choice . . . they will have effectively destroyed the Republican Party and pushed the conservative movement into the bleachers."

Coming off the Saddleback debate, where it has been acknowledged that McCain trounced Obama, polls are now showing McCain in the lead. A Reuters/Zogby poll released Saturday shows McCain in a 5-point lead over Democrat Barack Obama. "McCain leads Obama among likely U.S. voters by 46 percent to 41 percent, wiping out Obama's solid 7-point advantage in July and taking his first lead in the monthly Reuters/Zogby poll," Reuters reported today.

But that lead, suggest conservative commentators, would evaporate were a pro-abortion pick selected to run with McCain. Speculation has grown in the last 24 hours about the possibility of pro-abortion Independent Senator Joseph Lieberman as a potential McCain running mate.


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KEYWORDS: abortion; johnmccain; mccain; moralabsolutes; prolife
But that lead, suggest conservative commentators, would evaporate were a pro-abortion pick selected to run with McCain.

And McCain BETTER realize this!

1 posted on 08/20/2008 4:14:28 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 08/20/2008 4:14:54 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 08/20/2008 4:15:16 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

The Tom Ridge tour and equivication regarding a pro-abort running mate was partly a nod to a good friend, partly a public relations ploy to play up his maverick image to the media.


4 posted on 08/20/2008 4:17:27 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: wagglebee
Is it True McCain "Got the Message" About not Running a Pro-Abortion VP?

He said the same about Comprehensive Immigration Reform......then came all those meetings with hispanics.

5 posted on 08/20/2008 4:21:19 PM PDT by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.....maybe.)
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To: wagglebee
Somehow we picked up either NBC or one of the other lib networks for a few minutes tonight, and they were orgasmic over McCain picking a pro murder baby killing VP.

The remote was activated immediately.

6 posted on 08/20/2008 4:26:07 PM PDT by oldtimer
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To: wagglebee
Fox News had many American moral conservatives very pleased yesterday with a report from unnamed Republican National Committee officials that "senior McCain advisers and aides have told GOP officials that McCain 'got the message' last week that choosing a running mate who supports abortion rights would not be helpful." The news came in reaction to an uproar from the Republican base after Senator John McCain floated the possibility of pro-abortion Pennsylvania Governor Tom Ridge as a potential running mate last week.

Floating Tom Ridge's name was probably a deliberate red herring by the McCain Campaign to provoke exactly this sort of reaction by Conservatives ... therefore allowing McCain to be accomidating to their wishes when he announces a pro-life running mate that was selected some time ago (iow, created a situation that allows McCain to throw Conservatives a bone that creates a win-win situation).
7 posted on 08/20/2008 4:28:01 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

McCain will be Romney. You can bank on it.


8 posted on 08/20/2008 4:29:52 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Bobkk47

I meant “McCain will Pick Romney”.


9 posted on 08/20/2008 4:30:52 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: wagglebee

IMHO, the McCain camp has floated a number of pro-choice VP names to prepare people for his final choice...Ridge = pro-choice lite (has no record of pushing it), Giuliani pro-choice medium (used to push it more, now shuts up about it), Lieberman pro-choice heavy (up front pro-choice)...leaving used to be pro-choice but now is total pro-life...Mitt Romney...magritte


10 posted on 08/20/2008 4:38:44 PM PDT by magritte (If a problem comes along, you must whip it.)
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To: wagglebee
Is it true McCain "Got the Message" about not running a pro-abortion VP?

Doubtful.

If you have to explain to the candidate why choosing a "pro-choice" running mate is wrong, the candidate didn't get it in the first place.

11 posted on 08/20/2008 4:43:40 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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In a speech today McCain reiterated his Pro-Life answer from Saddleback. He then said his VP pick would share his principles values and priorities.

SO...

If John McCain would pick a Pro-abort running-mate after what he said at Saddleback last Sat., and what he’s repeated since, it would prove to everyone that he’s insincere. It would make what he said at Saddleback look like a pack of lies.

What confidence we might have had that he would pick good Jurists would also be destroyed by a Pro-Abort VP pick.

Any “conservative” hope for his term in office would be utterly destroyed.

McCain is a Maverick and a RINO but he’s a smart man and wants to win this. I think (and feel) that he fully understands he cannot win unless he picks a Pro-Life VP.


12 posted on 08/20/2008 4:47:30 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at CpForLife.org)
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To: tanknetter

Yep politicians do what they do. Also it gives him lots o free press.


13 posted on 08/20/2008 4:50:18 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at CpForLife.org)
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To: wagglebee

Pretty sure McCain will be picking Romney. That should please most here, if you consider Romney pro-life.


14 posted on 08/20/2008 4:58:13 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: wagglebee

Simply put, if McCain picks a pro death VP, he loses.

Never mind what his former DNC friends say.


15 posted on 08/20/2008 5:02:52 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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16 posted on 08/20/2008 5:08:30 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." Ronald Reagan)
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To: FFranco

In general, FR has not shown a great deal of pleasure when Romney gets close to any kind of nomination. No wonder, when you look at his state record.


17 posted on 08/20/2008 5:10:13 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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In general, FR has not shown a great deal of pleasure when Romney gets close to any kind of nomination

I'd be part of that in general population.
I can't stand romney.
18 posted on 08/20/2008 5:14:40 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: firewalk

Romney and Huck are both nanny staters. I can’t believe we have Freepers actually defending these clowns.

And don’t get me started on McCain. It’s a really sad state that we’ve fallen to here.


19 posted on 08/20/2008 5:16:26 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we're still retarded.)
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To: wagglebee

>>>Is it True McCain “Got the Message” About not Running a Pro-Abortion VP?

I hope so, but I wouldn’t bet on it.

It’s all a grotesque game of “can’t we all just get along” to McCain.


20 posted on 08/20/2008 5:18:06 PM PDT by seanrobins (blog.seanrobins.com)
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To: firewalk

>>>In general, FR has not shown a great deal of pleasure when Romney gets close to any kind of nomination

>>>I’d be part of that in general population.
I can’t stand romney.

But, legitimately... who else? Who else that would be willing?

I think Bobby Jindal would make a good VP, but he’s not interested.


21 posted on 08/20/2008 5:33:52 PM PDT by seanrobins (blog.seanrobins.com)
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To: wagglebee

Too bad we don’t have a conservative running, like Duncan Hunter. Oh well, this is what happens when you let the MSM choose the GOP candidate.


22 posted on 08/20/2008 5:34:46 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: seanrobins
I think Bobby Jindal made a big mistake.
He had to be pressured to keep his word & veto pay raises.
A promise he made while running for election.
23 posted on 08/20/2008 5:42:09 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: cpforlife.org

“What confidence we might have had that he would pick good Jurists would also be destroyed by a Pro-Abort VP pick.”

Exactly.

imo, picking an originalist judge is the most important issue of all, because it affects everything else.


24 posted on 08/20/2008 5:48:20 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: wagglebee

The GOP doesn’t care about conservatives anymore to begin with. Not true conservatives, anyway.


25 posted on 08/20/2008 6:21:08 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ViLaLuz

Check the tag line.


26 posted on 08/20/2008 6:48:34 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Conservatives: Mere "sounding boards" for "trial balloons"; playthings for RINOs with the TRUE power)
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To: wagglebee

Here’s an interesting scenario - what if McCain chooses a pro-choice VP, but the GOP convention rejects him? There’s no rule that requires the delegates to formally approve the candidate’s choice and I could see some sort of scenario where a pro-choice VP candidate is put into nomination, rejected, and then McCain chooses a more acceptable candidate. How much would it hurt McCain for merely having selected a pro-choice candidate?


27 posted on 08/20/2008 6:58:00 PM PDT by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: wagglebee
What message? He never intended to appoint a pro-abortion VP. This is an issue overblown by the media and in particular the irrelevant people in the conservative media so when McCain chooses a pro-life VP as he always intended to do then those irrelevant people will make it look like they have influenced McCain decision. It is really getting pathetic.
28 posted on 08/20/2008 7:01:43 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Your tagline has truth in it, although I believe true conservatives are the ones with the TRUE power. They just need to realize it and exercise it.


29 posted on 08/20/2008 7:05:29 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: garbanzo
The only way that McCain could deal with such a humiliation is if it happened the previous week to Obama. And if Barry picks someone the moonbats don't like (I'm thinking Sam Nunn here), or the Hillary people get their panties in a twist, then it could happen to him. That would make it much easier for Republicans to do it to McCain.

Generally, by the time of a convention, the parties have had months to get used to the eventual nominee. This year, many conservatives have not cozied up to McCain, and Hillary kept the battle going on for months.

Anything could happen.

30 posted on 08/20/2008 8:27:34 PM PDT by hunter112 (The 'straight talk express' gets the straight finger express from me.)
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To: Bobkk47

I don’t think so.


31 posted on 08/20/2008 9:21:16 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: wagglebee
McCain, Vietnam, and a cross in the dirt
Pro-Life Expert on Population Issues Says McCain Better on Abortion Than Obama
US Bishops Look at Election
Vote for Real Hope and Change [Archbishop Chaput]
Stopping Abortions, Protecting Human Life Not Above a President's Pay Grade

RNC: McCain Won’t Choose Abortion-Supporting Running Mate
Real Change ("Catholics don’t stop being Catholic at the voting booth.")
McCain and Obama try to navigate the politics of abortion
Obama and McCain Woo Catholics
Editorial: At the Saddleback Forum, Senator McCain and Pastor Warren took the Gold

Religious Voters Favor McCain, Poll Claims
Sen. McCain holds private meeting with Archbishop Chaput
John McCain's Remarks on Abortion in Speech to National Pro-Life Convention
McCain campaign plans ‘very aggressive’ outreach to Catholic voters
McCain Meets with Selected Catholic Leaders

32 posted on 08/20/2008 9:22:44 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: ViLaLuz

And by true conservative, do you mean Libertarian?


33 posted on 08/20/2008 11:43:08 PM PDT by sthguard (The problem isn't Islamic terrorists; it's terroristic Islam!)
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To: wagglebee

It was a trial balloon to gauge reaction.


34 posted on 08/21/2008 1:34:46 AM PDT by Impy (Spellcheck hates Obama, you should too.)
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To: wagglebee
Pinged from Terri Dailies

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35 posted on 08/21/2008 3:52:21 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Grizzled Bear
Too bad we don’t have a conservative running, like Duncan Hunter. Oh well, this is what happens when you let the MSM choose the GOP candidate.

I couldn't agree more!

36 posted on 08/21/2008 5:06:43 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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