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The Tax Increases Required for Obama to Fulfill his Spending Promises
The Wall Street Journal ^ | Thursday, August 21, 2008 | R. Glenn Hubbard

Posted on 08/21/2008 1:34:54 PM PDT by obamatookmydollars.com

Professor Hubbard explains that Obama's claim that he will increase the payroll tax by only 4% cannot be correct. This amount will not generate the revenue necessary to maintain even current levels of entitlement spending:

"The new payroll tax hike is more modest than the one Mr. Obama hinted at last fall, which might have uncapped the payroll tax entirely. But it would also do very little to shore up Social Security, since it means that no more than 15% of Social Security's long-term funding gap would be closed. Thus, if Mr. Obama is indeed opposed to reductions in Social Security spending growth, he is necessarily committed to large future payroll-tax or general income-tax increases."

Professor Hubbard estimates that meeting existing shortfalls in Medicare and Medicaid would require raising all existing taxes by 50%:

"The spending shortfalls in Social Security and Medicare are large. According to the Congressional Budget Office, Social Security and Medicare spending left unchecked would, after a generation, consume about 10 percentage points more of GDP than it does today. Simple arithmetic suggests that with this much more of GDP eaten up by the two programs, all federal taxes on average would have to be raised by more than 50% to make up the shortfall."

-Display the bumper sticker that exposes Obama's economic agenda:

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; barackobama; democratparty; democrats; election; electionpresident; elections; entitlements; govwatch; medicare; nobama08; obama; obamatruthfile; payrolltax; socialsecurity; spending; tax; taxandspend; taxes; taxincrease
Estimating the top marginal rate under Obama has been difficult since he changes his mind with the polls. However, Hubbard's article indicates that prior estimates of 62.3% based on a 12.4% payroll tax increase are likely the least that Obama will do: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121728762442091427.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries.
1 posted on 08/21/2008 1:34:55 PM PDT by obamatookmydollars.com
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To: obamatookmydollars.com

This tax-crazy radical socialist has no connection with the reality of his obscene taxation plans. A teetering economy, the taxpaying part of the public that is losing 50% of THEIR income already, and a very weak dollar.

And this moron liberal socialist wants to INCREASE TAXATION? How stupid can he get? And how stupid are those that support this madness?


2 posted on 08/21/2008 1:44:17 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA
The point is entitlement spending can't be sustained. The house of cards the Democratic Party built is coming to down sooner than later and when it does, it won't be a pretty sight.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 08/21/2008 1:57:37 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: EagleUSA
They are this stupid:


4 posted on 08/21/2008 2:02:45 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: obamatookmydollars.com

Do people understand what “Social Security” is? It isn’t just for older Americans over 62.5 years old, it is a whole gamut of entitlements including SSI and disability.

The problem is that a fund intended for those who paid into it is being pilfered by non-workers.

No one wants to address the real issue, welfare for able-bodied people.


5 posted on 08/21/2008 3:10:07 PM PDT by wac3rd (Carter80/Obama08)
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To: goldstategop
The house of cards the Democratic Party built is coming to down sooner than later and when it does, it won't be a pretty sight.

Let it begin in California.

6 posted on 08/21/2008 4:43:02 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: obamatookmydollars.com; Extremely Extreme Extremist

There is a problem- for the time being, we’re stuck with this system. There’s no getting out of it in the short term. So anything to keep it from going insolvent will have to include some tax increases. Even more important, we have to continue raising the retirememt age and phase out early retirement. Also, we should increase the earnings limit on social security and medicare. Once that is in place, we can look at ways to slowly dismantle the system and find a market and individual-based retirement system to replace it.


7 posted on 08/21/2008 5:05:42 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: unixfox

love those pics......


8 posted on 08/21/2008 9:51:28 PM PDT by cherry
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To: wac3rd

the disability windfall is a disgrace....I am sure we all know someone who needs disability, and I am sure we all know several who are lazy arses cheating their way to an easy early retirement....


9 posted on 08/21/2008 9:53:16 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Clintonfatigued

I agree that the system should be phased out, but understand please that there are many of us out here who do not have the benefit of defined pensions or retirement health benefits so we NEED SS and Medicare to be available to us at a reasonable age....and I think if you work for 40 yrs you should be able to “take”it at age 62....


10 posted on 08/21/2008 9:56:01 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Clintonfatigued

“... we should increase the earnings limit on social security and medicare”

There is no earnings limit on the medicare portion. Only the SS portion is earnings capped.

And tax increases are not necessary to keep it from going insolvent. Reducing the growth of benefits to match CPI rather than WAGE inflation, together with allowing the SSTF to invest in the open market rather the the special purpose Treasury notes, plus a crackdown on the fraud in SS Disability, etc. would keep SS solvent without any increase in the mandatory contribution rates.


11 posted on 08/22/2008 12:34:23 AM PDT by Kellis91789 (I used to be Dilbert. Then I was Wally. I retired before I became the Pointy Haired One.)
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To: cherry

I see where you’re coming from. Problem is, there is no easy answer.


12 posted on 08/22/2008 2:23:50 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: cherry
“take”it at age 62...."

I did and I just tell my kids that I appreciate their "taking care of Mom n Dad "

Fortunately, barring a "cat's ass trophy", they have done well enuf to not need it themselves....

13 posted on 08/22/2008 2:34:10 PM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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