Skip to comments.Out-of-control shoplifting at the St. Louis Galleria. Violent attacks in the Delmar Loop.
Posted on 08/23/2008 4:54:06 AM PDT by stan_sipple
Ask virtually any store manager at the Saint Louis Galleria about shoplifting, and you'll invariably get two responses: One, it's out of control; and two, it's gotten exceedingly worse since August 2006, when MetroLink opened a stop just 500 yards from the high-end shopping center. In the first six months of this year, Richmond Heights police made 345 arrests at the mall. That's nearly double the number of arrests made in all of 2005, before MetroLink opened its Shrewsbury line. This year police are on pace to take 276 juveniles into custody for shoplifting and other offenses a sevenfold increase over the 39 kids arrested at the Galleria in 2005. "I know it's not politically correct, but how else do you explain it?" comments a frustrated Galleria store manager who, like many Galleria shopkeepers interviewed by Riverfront Times, says her employer prohibits her from officially speaking for the company. Four months later in March, another fight in the mall this one involving up to 100 teens led to three more arrests and the Galleria imposing new sanctions on teenagers. The so-called "Parental Guidance Required" policy, put in place in April 2007, prohibits anyone under age seventeen from entering the mall after 3 p.m. on weekends without an adult chaperone. In recent weeks dozens of those same teens have been implicated in violent attacks that have hospitalized people working and living near the light rail stations in the Loop and the nearby DeBaliviere neighborhood. On July 26 a group of at least twenty teens assailed a family as they left the platform at the Forest Park-DeBaliviere station. That same night another group, according to police, attacked a person at the Delmar station.
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Ask virtually any store manager at the Saint Louis Galleria about shoplifting, and you’ll invariably get two responses: One, it’s out of control; and two, it’s gotten exceedingly worse since August 2006, when MetroLink opened a stop just 500 yards from the high-end shopping center.
In the first six months of this year, Richmond Heights police made 345 arrests at the mall. That’s nearly double the number of arrests made in all of 2005, before MetroLink opened its Shrewsbury line.
More alarming are the numbers of juveniles (kids under the age of seventeen) arrested at the mall. This year police are on pace to take 276 juveniles into custody for shoplifting and other offenses a sevenfold increase over the 39 kids arrested at the Galleria in 2005.
“I know it’s not politically correct, but how else do you explain it?” comments a frustrated Galleria store manager who, like many Galleria shopkeepers interviewed by Riverfront Times, says her employer prohibits her from officially speaking for the company.
I had to go out to St. Louis for work in 2001. It stayed at the The Roberts Mayfair Hotel. I walked over to the mall. Most of the stores were closed. There was gangs hanging out in the mall. I did not feel very safe. I left right away. This does not surprise me.
I find this hard to believe. After all, increased access to suburban amenities will only serve to teach inner-city youth the ethics and secrets to social and economic success. These spokes-people must be mistaken and the reporter must have an agenda to print such dreck.
When OB is king, this kind of coded racism will come to it’s well deserved extinction - with a bullet in the back of the head. Get ready for REAL change we can all (well, some of us) live with!
back in the day it was a nice mall. sorry to see the hoodlums run decent people out of another shopping area
The Hotel was old but I enjoyed my stay there. The area around was like being in a slum. I am sure it was nice at one time.
Shame. That was a great mall when I was traveling on the road in the mid-1990’s. Shopped and ate dinner at several places there.
i left st louis in 1990 when local govt leaders were planning the metrolink. the public derided the idea as the “hop and rob.”
Stories such as this one just get me so excited that I can’t wait for federally funded midnight basketball programs and all that comes with it! /sarc
did it occur to the big government greenies that we wont support more mass transit as long as it brings problems like this?
Rode the Metrolink from Shrewsbury to Busch Stadium in July. The trains were packed after the game. A contingent of black males drinking Hennessey boarded the train and commenced to yell and curse. It was a stark contrast. Order and civility from the station at the stadium.
Disorder and animal behavior up to where the line splits off to the airport. Order and stability out to shrewsbury.
I will never ride again and neither will my parents nor the people they speak with.
State law prohibits Metro from fining anyone under seventeen caught riding the train without a ticket. As the train arrives at the station, Dante and his friends walk past the guard and climb aboard. The doors close, and they're gone.
"Don't write a story," implores Peggy Hou, owner of Chinese Noodle Café, located next door to Pi on the eastern edge of the Loop. "You'll scare away business. Everything is fine." (Pi owners declined to comment altogether.) One business owner willing to speak is Rubina Patton, proprietor of Diversity Gallery and the Culture Café situated directly across the street from The Pageant. An African American and a licensed clinical social worker, Patton says it pains her to know that many of the teenagers involved in the attacks in the Loop are black. "I don't care what color you are, you need to behave," she says. "I don't want this blown out of proportion, but it needs to be addressed."
I wouldn't have guessed. /s
"I don't care what color you are, you need to behave," she says.
State law prohibits Metro from fining anyone under seventeen caught riding the train without a ticket.
WTH? Ghetto thug provision ?
Over the years Virginia Beach and Norfolk Virginia have discussed "light rail" . VB essentially said they didn't want the light rail to extend to the oceanfront because they didn't want thugs riding in from the Norfolk ghettos.
Norfolk is now building the light rail and recently VB is thinking about having it extended to include stops in VB. This is after 20 years of saying, "No Way".
These fools caused the problems due to their Liberalism, their “embracing diversity”. In fact, they even say so. Note these gems from the article.
“State law prohibits Metro from fining anyone under seventeen caught riding the train without a ticket. As the train arrives at the station, Dante and his friends walk past the guard and climb aboard. The doors close, and they're gone.”
What these Liberal fools have done is provide free “urban mass transit” services - free rides for criminals.
Worse yet, when a cop catches juvenile criminals riding free, he is powerless to do anything about it. This is a perfect example of failed Liberalism creating and enforcing a policy of No Consequences For Anti-Social Behavior.
KEWL! Even Dippy the Hippy, stoned as he always was, knew better than that!
Then the Big Sh*tty Liberals want to claim anyone who doesn't accept the criminal behavior swarming off the ‘mass transit’ refuses to “embrace diversity” and is “racist” when they point out that black teens from the ghetto are committing the majority of the crimes.
If the criminals were sent to jail for long periods of time, the rest (and the large majority) of both the black teens from that ghetto and the rest of the public could enjoy the malls and urban areas.
When shop owners won't demand the sentences, and are unwilling to see the thieves jailed, they are contributing to their future problems.
PS Running thieves, or violent thieves, could be legally shot. I suggest paying a bounty on any thief so killed, and suggest the cost of a year of prison expenses as the reasonable bounty.
Non-violent thieves could be sentenced to enforced labor until they had produced enough pay back the stolen property, the costs of the law enforcement program, and any ‘supervision’ deemed necessary to determine that the criminal had become a self regulating citizen safe to allow on the streets.
It's happening here now, too. The local 'rat/peace/love/social justice/media machines have imported and enabled a thug presence that is now firmly entrenced and officially blessed.
Yes, all the joys of forced marxism the communists who destroy all of us have planned. May God have mercy on those who seek after His right ways in Christ Jesus our Lord and Saviour.
The rest will drive America into the ditch as the blind are leading the blind.
[left st louis in 1990 when local govt leaders were planning the metrolink. the public derided the idea as the hop and rob.]
The wise man sees evil coming and hides himself but the wicked pass on and are punished. Read that in the scriptures of Lord Jesus Christ and found His Word a source of truth and hope, but most will be punished.
[did it occur to the big government greenies that we wont support more mass transit as long as it brings problems like this?]
Do big government politicians care what America’s citizens think as a whole? I would say no,no,no.
[Over the years Virginia Beach and Norfolk Virginia have discussed “light rail” .]
Did not Virginians elect liberals to their Congress and political offices as the state moves left? Are they not suffering the consequences of the political powers that be? If so, do they really have a right to complain for the representitives choices they elected to represent their interests in the State buildings?
You know the answer.
Similar thing happened to Century Three Mall in the South Hills of Pittsburgh, PA. It’s a city bus transfer station. Seemed like every day and night was Thugs R Us. Over 1/3 of the stores are empty and the rest can’t be far behind.
I’ll bet Anacostians in DC are just waiting for the Dulles Light Rail extention through Tyson’s Corner, home of the Gallaria and other high-end malls, to open for the same reason.
The country can’t solve this problem without working of the busted families and rotten education system that cause it.
“Worse yet, when a cop catches juvenile criminals riding free, he is powerless to do anything about it. This is a perfect example of failed Liberalism creating and enforcing a policy of No Consequences For Anti-Social Behavior.”
Wasn’t that a nice additional touch to the story, the thieves are even stealing their Metro ride to and from the Mall!
Typo - should read “working on”.
You’re either in favor of civilized society or you’re not. We don’t have to tolerate bad behavior in the interest of “fairness”.
Since none of them have any money to pay fines, fining them would do no good.
I suggest short juvenile detention terms say 10 days for the first offense, 20 for the second, and so on. Enforce this vigorously and the problems will be alleviated.
You must be speaking of the St. Louis Mall downtown. It has closed down now. The Galleria is a beautiful mall in the Brentwood/Clayton area. Unfortunately, where Metrolink goes, trouble follows. When the inner city thugs gained easy access to this place, it began having problems immediately. It really is a shame.
Funding for roads in VA is a hot topic.
For example, administrations of both parties haven't done jack to maintain the roads and bridges.
These stories are one of the transportation issues effecting this area.
Fwiw, 25 years ago, I would use the Jordan Bridge every day in my commute. The bridge was rickety then, I can only imagine what it's like now.
Things have certainly changed since the last time I was there in the mid-80’s.
My advice: White people should not be on the the street after about 1 hour prior to sunset. (People that live there will tell you the same.)
I would strongly recommend that you consider concealed carry (legal or not).
It's a shame, it used to be a neat place.
“Wasnt that a nice additional touch to the story, the thieves are even stealing their Metro ride to and from the Mall!”
That article was loaded with telling quotes from ‘Big Sh*tty Syndrome’ sufferers. There must be something in the urban water supply which causes otherwise solid business owners to utter Socialist talking points with a straight face.
Here’s an example:
“Edwards says he doesn’t know what the connection may be between the teenagers and the attacks in and around the MetroLink stations, but he believes public transportation is crucial to the growth and vitality of the city. He also notes that the Galleria and the Delmar Loop are two of just a handful of places in St. Louis where blacks and whites intersect.
“People have made the Loop what it is by embracing diversity,” he says.
His closing line about “embracing diversity” says it all.
Those who accept law and public policy which tolerates, or even creates, criminal behavior and imposes no punishments for said crimes, deserve to suffer any and all crimes heaped upon them by the criminals they “embraced”.
think about it, the Riverfront Times is a ST Louis wannabe Village Voice!
That's a common comment when discussing articles such as these, and in my opinion, if true, we are truely screwed as a country.
Why? Well, how much more can a bankrupt nation spend on social welfare and on gov't schools? How much of that increased spending can go towards current problem people when tens of millions of the same type of problem people flood into this country from the third world?
Our population may be increasing at a near-exponential rate, but the number of productive workers, who pay all the bills, sure isn't. And speaking as one of the productive tax-paying citizens, I'm already paying far too much in taxes.
Try telling that to twelve-year-old Dante and his friends Recee, sixteen, and Unique, nine. On a recent Friday evening the three friends from North St. Louis County are walking through the mall when they're stopped by Galleria security and escorted to the door.
As he leaves the mall property, Dante takes a moment to stomp the life from a begonia plant spouting from the Galleria's manicured flower beds. He hurls a traffic cone into the street and tosses a sandbag from a construction site onto the sidewalk. "I'm angry," concedes Dante. "How are they going to kick me out of the mall? It's racist."
Maybe, Dante, you'd like to ponder a moment on why you and your friends are getting kicked out of the mall?
BTW, the comments section on this article is pretty enlightening as well.
pronounced uu nee kay
Are you sure? I'm pretty certain it's uh-NEE-kwa.
LOL ! Hard to tell these days!
If the comments section is representative of anything, then even the white liberals who read this paper are growing tired of rampant black thug behavior and the many excuses given for it.
“There must be something in the urban water supply which causes otherwise solid business owners to utter Socialist talking points with a straight face.”
The censorship effect of PCness and the leftist media is pretty strong when it comes to honestly assessing situations such as this, and the impact of Section 8 Housing which has been discussed here a few times.
People need to start getting over such self-destructive self-censorship and start calling things what they are.
City trains move the gang crime to the suburbs, so more people can share fair.
Some years ago SEPTA went on strike and buses to the suburban malls stopped running. The King of Prussia mall reported a 75% drop in shoplifting during the strike.
But you can’t profile.
"I thought for sure it would pass, and then someone on the MetroLink campaign made the decision to advertise that the train would connect Mid Rivers Mall with East St. Louis," Aytes recalls. "That pretty much killed it right there. Soon you had people saying MetroLink riders would come to St. Charles by train and leave by car stolen car."
Ten years later and a growing number of Saint Louis Galleria and Delmar Loop merchants worry that St. Charles voters may have been right: that maybe MetroLink actually enables criminals, especially teenage lawbreakers.
So pretty much the way I understand it was that there was a proposal to link MetroLink from the 'hood to the shopping malls but the people who shopped at the malls were concerned about the crime that this would bring (imagine that) so they voted against the measure. Then the government went ahead and built the link despite the proposal being killed by the voters? Am I reading this right?
It's racist if you notice those things. /sarc
Ironic...this is the third time within a few months that I’ve heard of someone named Unique.
For weird names, you can’t beat Sh*thead (pronounced sha-TEED) and A**hole (pronounced ASH-olay). I swear I’m not making these up. These are actual names!
Can you imagine? “This is my son, Sh*thead, and my daughter, A**hole.”
There is a chain of “alternative” newspapers in Florida, and many other states, as well. They are largely Libtard in editorial orientation, and funded by ads for restaurants, bars, tattoo parlors and sex services like phone sex and “escorts”.
I’ve seen this before. Adding regional bus service is what ultimately destroyed Parmatown Mall in Parma, Ohio. The deadbeats ride the taxpayer-funded bus to the mall, rob it, and ride the bus back home.
With all due respect, I must disagree. Simply by returning to an old and proven method of law enforcement, we could cut prison costs to a mere fraction of their now exorbitant levels, and produce a nation of self regulating citizens.
Bring Back Bounties! Make a dead violent criminal worth the cost of a year's incarceration and crime would drop to a fraction of today's criminal activity..