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I continue to run into people falsely claiming that Barack is not an American, he is a secret Muslim, yada yada yada. It is important to keep our focus on the truth instead of getting caught up in rumors and spin. Obama's stance on abortion, his economic policies, his desire for government run health care, his tax plan, his desire to dismantle the military, and other issues should be the focus.
1 posted on 08/24/2008 7:40:05 AM PDT by TheNewPundit
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It is a bit sad that I have to repeat things that are already in the report.
Factcheck can’t have access to the original because Hawaii will never give it to anyone but a family member, as they stated.
The certificate is stamped and signed, and is compliant with the State Dept standards. In other words, it is no different than what you would get if you made the same request from the same state.
Factcheck is not left wing. This is the site that defended and was quoted by Dick Cheney when he was questioned about his deferred compensation from Halliburton four years ago. And it takes about 1 second to see articles they posted in which they are correcting things that Obama has said about McCain. An example here http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/distorting_mccains_remarks.html


37 posted on 08/24/2008 7:58:32 AM PDT by TheNewPundit
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I love the way that every time there is a new question of the document miraculously Obama provides and even more detailed version of it with all the necessary corrections made to disprove his detractors.

Still haven’t figured out a way to fix that messed up border yet, however I’m sure they are working on it even as we speak...


38 posted on 08/24/2008 7:58:54 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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Factcheck.org is an Obama site, anything they say or print is highly suspect. The new COLB they exhibit is also suspect, due to the fact the first COLB they posted on the web has been proven fake. Obama is most likely NOT an American citizen no matter where he was born since he became an indonesian citizen when his family moved there which means his US citizenship was renounced. There are other reasons that he is not qualified or eligible for President and the lawsuit states them quite clearly. If all this is a lie then it will come out.


40 posted on 08/24/2008 8:00:20 AM PDT by calex59
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factcheck is with Annenberg, Obama is with Annenberg; got it?

Obama goes to Hawaii for a week in 2008, and suddenly another birth certificate shows up at “factcheck” with a 2007 date on it.

He’s dirty, book him!


41 posted on 08/24/2008 8:02:39 AM PDT by devere
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My email to factcheck.org..

Your inspection of the document you claim to be Obama’s Birth Certificate does nothing to refute the detailed analysis performed by credentialed fraudulent document analyzer, “Techdude”.

Furthermore, the sloppiness of you analysis is revealed in your statement that it is a “Certification of Birth” (your quotes).

There is no such document.

Hawaii issues a document called a “Certification of Live Birth”.

That’s a FACT - you should CHECK it.

If you can’t even quote a title correctly, how can we have any faith in the rest of your analysis?


43 posted on 08/24/2008 8:05:31 AM PDT by Wil H
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Why would I trust anyone on this topic that used to work for the AP and CNN?

Brooks Jackson Director, Annenberg Political Fact Check

Brooks Jackson is a journalist who covered Washington and national politics for 34 years, reporting in turn for The Associated Press, the Wall Street Journal and CNN.

The link provided by pissant above has some good info. There seems to be enough irregularities to at least question it's authenticity, although it will probably be contained to the blogosphere.

That said, based on his performance so far I would prefer running against Barack Hussein than Hillary so let him run and let's enjoy the gaffes.

45 posted on 08/24/2008 8:07:20 AM PDT by Reagan is King (Every immigrant who comes here should be required within five years to learn English or leave.)
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"I continue to run into people..."

I continue to run into people on FR who post articles that have already been posted many, many times.

50 posted on 08/24/2008 8:20:45 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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Location of birth - Honolulu

52 posted on 08/24/2008 8:21:10 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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The FBI needs to check the records in Hawaii and Indonesia and even Kenya to find if Nobama is qualified to run for president. He is going to lose anyway but he should not be allowed to make false claims.
54 posted on 08/24/2008 8:26:04 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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Somethings rotten in Denmark. Reckon he’s been there too.


59 posted on 08/24/2008 8:44:42 AM PDT by Waco (Fusion Smooishin)
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This is, as predicted, straight out of the
Kerry SF180 playbook:

Just show the document to In-The-Tank media pals,
and not the general public.

Annenberg’s photography is even worse than the previous
junk. And the analysis of the previous has educated BHO’s
people, who have now had lots of time to build a better forgery.

This won’t get settled unless addressed in court, or
Hillary decides to use it as a weapon.


60 posted on 08/24/2008 8:45:00 AM PDT by Boundless (Legacy Media is hazardous to your mental health)
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Hmmm...
Could be that one warehouse detention facility in Denver may be a bit small the next few dys....


61 posted on 08/24/2008 8:53:29 AM PDT by gunnyg
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This picture answers many of the questions about the original "proof", namely the lack of a Certificate Number and the raised seal. As a SWAG, the Certificate Number consists of a hospital id, the date, and a sequence number. Obviously the first image was edited by Photoshop to remove the certificate number, at the very least.

This seems to suggest that the state of Hawaii thinks he was born there. However "151" may mean "Born at Home", instead of a hospital, and 4 days is plenty of time to move him from Kenya (say) to the US after birth. This also does not answer questions about what his stay in Indonesia, and the fact that he might actually be a naturalized Indonesian citizen.

62 posted on 08/24/2008 8:54:29 AM PDT by NathanR ( Drill here. Drill now. Pay less.)
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There is no better proof of Obama’s US citizenship than the Hillary did not bring it up in the primary campaigns. I'm certain Hillary's minions looked for all the dirt on Obama and would never have left such a knockout on the table.
67 posted on 08/24/2008 9:12:18 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2067161/posts

“In Kenya, where Obama’s father is from, a second birth certificate for Obama was issued and registered with Kenya’s government. “


69 posted on 08/24/2008 9:25:09 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto!)
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It is always important to be truthful.


72 posted on 08/24/2008 9:28:06 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The ruling Chinese oligarchy is the envy of the American Left.)
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If both Obama's parents were foreign-born, the public might be skeptical of a possibly doctored birth certificate but that is a political question.

The state of Hawaii apparently has determined he was born in Hawaii, to a mother who was an American citizen.

Unless the state of Hawaii is compelled to reverse its position through a legal proceeding, the matter is moot.

Birth records are not a federal matter and I can't see any federal court allowing a challenge to a birth certificate lawfully issued by a state.

74 posted on 08/24/2008 9:41:28 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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I added the keyword CertifiGate. Also, this is about the 3rd time this article has been posted (with the same title).


80 posted on 08/24/2008 11:09:19 AM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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It is important to keep our focus on the truth instead of getting caught up in rumors and spin.

Exactly. There's arguments of much more substance to be made against Obama.

81 posted on 08/24/2008 12:06:26 PM PDT by Crankologist
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With all of the other issues to raise, why, on earth. do you even bother writing about Obama's bogus birth certificate saga?

Why aren't you writing posts about the "other issues?"

While you're pondering that answer, why did FactCheck say, in its Aug 26 update to this article, dated Aug 21, that "they did not learn anything about the 'security paper' that COLBs are printed on," when they were allegedly fondling OBama's real COLB six days earlier?

86 posted on 09/01/2008 7:34:15 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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