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To: kellynla

When is some bishop going to say something about “pro abortion Catholic” Joe Biden? Chirp, chirp, chirp...

The bishops may not realize it, but this was done as a challenge to the Church. If they are silent now, they will never regain the right to speak. Obama and his handlers knew perfectly well what they were doing when they picked Biden.

In fact, if the bishops are silent now, we can expect to see the lawsuits start, against churches that refuse to “marry” gays, against Catholic institutions that won’t perform abortions, against, in short, any aspect of the Church that conflicts with the liberal fascist program. But then, most of the liberal bishops such as Wuerl and Neiderauer would probably be happy to opt out from Rome, take the property and form AmChurch, and then watch the handful of faithful Catholics get interned somewhere for their own good.


5 posted on 08/25/2008 10:01:40 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius

There’s a picture all over the news today of Biden coming out of mass yesterday holding his granddaughter. First of all I think he should be denied communion, but perhaps I should not judge. One thing I would really like to know though is how would he have felt if his daughter in law decided she did not want that baby and had aborted her? How would you feel *not* being able to hold her? Would you still be in favor of “choice” then??


9 posted on 08/25/2008 10:10:32 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: livius
When is some bishop going to say something about “pro abortion Catholic” Joe Biden? Chirp, chirp, chirp...

Choice of Biden Re-Opens Catholic Wound; Own Bishop Outspoken on Obligation to Protect Life

11 posted on 08/25/2008 10:21:12 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: livius

I totally agree with your post. I also believe that it will pass when the Church will be required to marry homosexualsd or lose their tax ezempt status and they will be required to perform abortions at Catholic hospitals, etc., etc. And, the Catholic Church themselves are at fault; they should have been screaming from the rooftops about abortion and pro-abortion candidates. Most of the big cities above the Mason-Dixon line are Democrat and Catholic and I ask where have the bishops, archbishops, cardinals been? Haven’t said a word.


12 posted on 08/25/2008 10:22:33 AM PDT by appleton14
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To: livius

“In fact, if the bishops are silent now, we can expect to see the lawsuits start, against churches that refuse to “marry” gays, against Catholic institutions that won’t perform abortions, against, in short, any aspect of the Church that conflicts with the liberal fascist program.”

There are an awful lot of “seamless garment/social justice” bishops out there.

Unfortunately - it appears that bishops like Burke, i.e. Bishops actually willing to go out on a limb and publicly fight for the unborn - are in the minority.

There are a whole lot of cultural democrat catholics who just don’t want to think about abortion (don’t want to be “one issue” voters)

I would like to be proven wrong - but look around. What do you see?


19 posted on 08/25/2008 11:19:05 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: livius

“When is some bishop going to say something about “pro abortion Catholic” Joe Biden?”

No Communion for pro-abortion Catholics, says Archbishop Burke

California Catholic Daily

Rome, Aug 19, 2008 / (CNA) — Archbishop Raymond Burke, prefect of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura, the highest judicial authority of the Holy See, said this week that Catholics who publicly support abortion — especially politicians — should not receive Communion, and that ministers of Communion should be responsibly charitable in denying it to them if they ask for it “until they have reformed their lives.”

[[Burke082108.jpg]]In an interview with the magazine Radici Christiane, Archbishop Burke pointed out that there is often a lack of reverence at Mass when receiving Communion. “Receiving the Body and Blood of Christ unworthily is a sacrilege,” he warned. “If it is done deliberately in mortal sin it is a sacrilege.”

To illustrate his point, he referred to “public officials who, with knowledge and consent, uphold actions that are against the Divine and Eternal moral law. For example, if they support abortion, which entails the taking of innocent and defenseless human lives. A person who commits sin in this way should be publicly admonished in such a way as to not receive Communion until he or she has reformed his life,” the archbishop said.
“If a person who has been admonished persists in public mortal sin and attempts to receive Communion, the minister of the Eucharist has the obligation to deny it to him. Why? Above all, for the salvation of that person, preventing him from committing a sacrilege,” he added.

“We must avoid giving people the impression that one can be in a state of mortal sin and receive the Eucharist,” the archbishop continued. “Secondly, there could be another form of scandal, consisting of leading people to think that the public act that this person is doing, which until now everyone believed was a serious sin, is really not that serious — if the Church allows him or her to receive Communion.”

“If we have a public figure who is openly and deliberately upholding abortion rights and receiving the Eucharist, what will the average person think? He or she could come to believe that it up to a certain point it is okay to do away with an innocent life in the mother’s womb,” he warned.

Archbishop Burke also noted that when a bishop or a Church leader prevents an abortion supporter from receiving Communion, “it is not with the intention of interfering in public life but rather in the spiritual state of the politician or public official who, if Catholic, should follow the divine law in the public sphere as well.

“Therefore, it is simply ridiculous and wrong to try to silence a pastor, accusing him of interferi ng in politics so that he cannot do good to the soul of a member of his flock,” he stated.
http://calcatholic.com/news/newsArticlePrintable.aspx?id=ae7464ca-97de-4e56-88c8-3004d2adf4ba


27 posted on 08/25/2008 8:59:52 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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