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It's Unwise To Tax 'Well-Earned' Profits
IBD Editorials ^ | August 25, 2008 | MARGO THORNING

Posted on 08/25/2008 6:25:45 PM PDT by Kaslin

There are certain laws you can break without serious repercussions, but the laws of economics are far less forgiving. And history shows that we will all pay a hefty fine if lawmakers choose to enact a "windfall" profits tax as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has just proposed and Democrat presidential candidate Barack Obama supports.

Talk of a "windfall" profits tax turns up, like a bad penny, when politicians catch on that Americans have become frustrated by high gas prices. The concept is simple: Politicians, who are no more popular than high energy prices right now, see an easy scapegoat. So they slap an extra tax on the "bad guy" and take a bow.

The concept's proponents must be credited for their shrewdness.

Indeed, even calling it a "windfall" tax implies that people or firms have not rightly earned that money.

In a bill earlier this year, 51 senators voted to impose a massive new special tax on energy companies whose profits grew by more than 10% — hardly a "windfall" by most definitions.

As columnist Jonah Goldberg argues, "If we were honest with the people having their profits yanked away, we'd call it the 'well-earned and richly deserved profits tax.' " Many are not so forthcoming.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; democrats; economicpolicy; elections; energy; lp; nobama08; obama; oil; taxes; windfallprofits; windfallprofitstax

1 posted on 08/25/2008 6:25:45 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The problem seems to be that those advocating the higher taxes believe that “well-earned” profits is an oxymoron. Unless, of course, it’s Nancy Pelosi’s profits.


2 posted on 08/25/2008 6:32:49 PM PDT by Laptop_Ron (Jindal/Palin '12)
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To: Kaslin
~~~One of the axioms of scholars of the public finances is that if you tax something, you get less of it.~~~

The problem is that the dems platform is built on almost entirely on class envy (hence BHO’s ad about McCain not knowing how many houses he owned) and if you take that out of their painfully simple equation they're argument would fall apart and they would have nothing to run on!

3 posted on 08/25/2008 6:42:58 PM PDT by Devilinbaggypants (He who gives little should not expect much.)
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To: Kaslin
How about proposing a windfall profits tax on actors that make more than $10 million in one year?

(At least, there'd be fewer Tom Cruise movies ... and Tom Hanks ... and ...)

4 posted on 08/25/2008 7:45:26 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter.)
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To: Laptop_Ron

Exxon-Mobil’s 1H08 earnings report:

$ 254.9B in revenue
22.57B profit after taxes. 8.9% of revenue
19.8B Income tax
18.0B Sales Tax
23.9B Other Tax
61.7B total tax 24.2% of revenue

For comparison:
IBM 1H08
51.3B revenue
5.1B profit after taxes 9.9% of revenue

Exxon-Mobil is a big company, but they do pay alot of taxes and are comparable in percent profit to other big companies.

This attacking big oil is like the ‘tax cuts for the rich’ mantra the dem’s put out. It sounds good but doesn’t stand up to the math.. But then 90% of the folks won’t do the math.


5 posted on 08/25/2008 8:03:19 PM PDT by revtown
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To: revtown
Attacking "big oil" is stupid. Many Americans have their 401k retirement invested in "big oil". They derive a nice return to cover their needs in old age. The RATS are happy to steal that money from "big oil" AND screw those who have invested in "big oil" as part of their retirement. The bottom 50% of "taxpayers" who pay less than 5% of total taxes are thrilled to see "big oil" punished. That confiscated money ends up as government largess for the irresponsible who are free to vote for RATS to keep the gravy coming.
6 posted on 08/25/2008 8:42:18 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; ...
One of the axioms of scholars of the public finances is that if you tax something, you get less of it.

Libertarian ping! To be added or removed freepmail me or post a message here.
7 posted on 08/25/2008 10:34:06 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Kaslin

it has nothing to do with “windfall profits”.

it has to do with villifying the oil companies and setting them up for nationalization. (a la maxine waters)


8 posted on 08/26/2008 5:15:09 AM PDT by ripley
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To: Laptop_Ron

They aren’t the only ones. Check this out from a lowly college student:

“If your point is “The money I make is mine and no one can take it” then you couldn’t be more wrong. Every citizen must give back to the system that gave them a hospital in which to be born, roads on which they can drive, schools in which they can be educated, and so on. Similarly, if you think that everyone should have to pay the same amount of taxes, that’s just ridiculous and you’re dooming thousands, if not millions of people to even further depths of poverty. Besides, you do know that the US mint is operated by the Department of the Treasury, right? Your government actually physically makes the money. It’s theirs to distribute, and theirs to recollect to ensure everyone’s mutual survival.

You propose a system that would make the disparagement between rich and poor is even wider and almost ensure an implosion of social programs and a vast reduction of vital national operations such as the military. Unemployment would skyrocket, the US dollar would plummet, and your economy would falter, throwing into jeopardy the economies of reliant nations.”

I think the only reason taxes are allowed at all is because a lot of people believe the same was as this bozo; that the money belongs to the government and they can do whatever they want with it.


9 posted on 08/26/2008 6:21:13 AM PDT by RWB Patriot
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To: RWB Patriot
It appears as if that college kid has been under the spell of his Marxist economics professors. It's amazing how much brainwashing they can do.

BTW, can you give me an idea as to what this student was responding?

10 posted on 08/26/2008 3:30:57 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Kaslin
Anyone with common sense about how markets work knows that a "windfall profits tax" on "big oil" would only drive fuel prices up even higher. But that's what the left really wants.
11 posted on 08/26/2008 3:34:28 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: RWB Patriot

College student? I thought they were supposed to teach those kids how to think? Looks like one of them slipped through the cracks.

It really is kind of frightening.


12 posted on 08/26/2008 3:55:26 PM PDT by Laptop_Ron (Jindal/Palin '12)
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To: justiceseeker93

Me challenging how the government taxes you more as you earn more. My view was that the money a person makes is his/her property.


13 posted on 08/26/2008 9:37:57 PM PDT by RWB Patriot
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To: Laptop_Ron

If you had to listen to as much of his crap as I did, you’d want to strangle him.


14 posted on 08/26/2008 10:01:39 PM PDT by RWB Patriot
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To: Tanniker Smith

“How about proposing a windfall profits tax on actors that make more than $10 million in one year? “

Or universities (”Big Education”) that charge $40,000 per year for tuition?


15 posted on 08/26/2008 10:08:06 PM PDT by Scotswife
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