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25 years ago today: KAL Flight 007 Remembered
The New American ^ | 9/1/08 | Warren Mass

Posted on 09/02/2008 7:56:11 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD

It has been 25 years since Korean Airlines Flight 007, carrying 269 passengers and crew, including Congressman Larry McDonald of Georgia, was fired on by a Soviet fighter jet off the coast of Siberia. At the time, McDonald was chairman of the John Birch Society (a subsidiary of which publishes THE NEW AMERICAN).

Although several speakers eulogized McDonald at a Washington, D.C., memorial service 10 days following the September 1, 1983 attack, the words most remembered by both this magazine’s editor, Gary Benoit, and this writer were delivered by the late Senator Jesse Helms, who passed away on July 4. Senator Helms, along with Senator Steve Symms of Idaho and Representative Carroll Hubbard, Jr. of Kentucky, were headed for the same conference in Seoul, South Korea, as was Congressman McDonald, but on a different plane (KAL 015). Both planes, flying on schedules just minutes apart, stopped at Anchorage, Alaska, for refueling, and passengers from each could deplane and stretch their legs. McDonald decided to stay onboard, but Senator Helms opted to visit the terminal, where he mingled with passengers from the doomed KAL 007. During the layover, Helms met two little girls who were passengers on McDonald’s plane, Noel Anne Grenfell, five, and her sister Stacy Marie, three. The senator spoke about the encounter to the 4,000 people gathered at the McDonald memorial service, and often again in the years that followed:

"I’ll never forget that night when that plane was just beside ours at Anchorage airport with two little girls and their parents. I taught them, among other things, to say I love you in deaf [sign] language, and the last thing they did when they turned the corner was stick up their little hands and tell me they loved me."

(Excerpt) Read more at thenewamerican.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: 25yearsago; 747; aerospace; airlines; aviation; flight; jessehelms; johnbirchsociety; kal007; korea; larrymcdonald; northkorea; sakhalinisland; southkorea; soviets
Twenty-five years ago today, Korean Air Lines flight 007 enroute from New York City to Seoul, South Korea was shot down by the Soviets.
1 posted on 09/02/2008 7:56:12 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

I’ll never forget photos of a Korean family standing at the shore praying over the sea that held their loved ones. In fact, I often remember them when I’m standing on the shore of a different sea.

May God bless them all.


2 posted on 09/02/2008 8:01:27 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
I remember this.

I was in the Navy, stationed on the USS Sterett, CG-31, in Subic Bay, Philippines.

We pulled out and went immediately to the area where it went down and played face off with the Russian Navy for two weeks.

3 posted on 09/02/2008 8:02:28 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

It will be interesting to see the reaction here.

This, and fedgov’s abandonment of the POW/MIA’s raise serious questions about our elected leaders.


4 posted on 09/02/2008 8:03:26 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Just another Joe

Did you have a face-off with the Russian Navy because they didn’t want you guys to be in or near the wreckage site?


5 posted on 09/02/2008 8:08:45 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
It wasn't a matter of they didn't want us near the wreckage. We didn't know where the wreckage was.

We were just outside the 12 mile international waters limit and the Russians were just inside the limit.

Everybody was looking for the black box, them and us.

We would cruise back and forth along the line.
It was probably one of the most tense sutuations I can remember.

I can remember walking through CIC and hearing, "If something goes down we take out this one first, this one next, and if we're still around then we go for this one."

Enough to make you pray for peace.

6 posted on 09/02/2008 8:12:50 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe

So, even though the wreckage was in international waters, do you remember if it was closer to Japanese waters or Soviet waters?


7 posted on 09/02/2008 8:18:24 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
If I remember correctly, and don't forget, this was 25 years ago, it was much closer to Russian waters than Japanese waters.

I just remember that we were close enough to the Russian Navy that we could make out facial features of Russian sailors on deck, without binoculars.

8 posted on 09/02/2008 8:21:29 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

What a flashback! 24 years ago today, I flew on the same flight. We didn’t realize it was the one-year anniversary until some people mentioned it in the airport. Needless to say, the flight was very quiet and subdued once we were airborne. My heart goes out to the families of all the victims.


9 posted on 09/02/2008 8:35:56 AM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (I hear that the reason Chuck Norris is a Republican is because he is afraid of Sarah Palin.)
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To: Just another Joe
we were close enough to the Russian Navy that we could make out facial features of Russian sailors on deck, without binoculars.

EWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!! I bet their facial features sort of looked like this?

Photobucket

10 posted on 09/02/2008 8:39:31 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
LOL, actually that's too hairy.

They were more clean cut than we were. We were allowed mustaches, at least.

11 posted on 09/02/2008 8:42:20 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

My father used to take this flight at least three time per year. It made an impression on him and me. Never forget.


12 posted on 09/02/2008 8:43:42 AM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Never forget that slime-bucket leftist weekly The Nation blamed it all on the CIA, claiming they had the plane go off course deliberately to test Soviet defenses.


13 posted on 09/02/2008 9:00:14 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus

Yes, and there are blogs and web sites dedicated to these conspiracy theories. Some suggest that the many of the passengers are still alive and living other identities deep in desolate Russian provinces. It’s mind-boggling.

This plane went down on Sept. 1, 1983 and all passengers and crew died that night.


14 posted on 09/02/2008 9:03:02 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
I got really annoyed a few years ago when the History Channel recycled an old UK "documentary" that claimed the US was responsible and caused it to happen, long after the flight recorders had been recovered showing that the crew had no idea what was going on and the plane was shot down over international waters.
15 posted on 09/02/2008 9:10:30 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Question_Assumptions

I saw that documentary. It’s now being recycled on YouTube. They interviewed the Soviet pilot who shot down the plane, and he said that he had no idea it was a passenger jet, even though he had been ‘tailing it’ for about an hour and experts had determined that the KAL logo would’ve been visible in different areas of the aircraft.

The man is living somewhere in Siberia with a tiny little pension from the Russian government, so I guess that if the right TV crew comes along with $50 bucks, any story they want to spin would sound ‘reasonable’ to him.


16 posted on 09/02/2008 9:38:23 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: Veto!
Congressman Larry McDonald of Georgia

The only GOOD Democrat!

17 posted on 09/02/2008 10:12:09 AM PDT by IbJensen (Ali Bama isn't going to make it!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

“Yes, and there are blogs and web sites dedicated to these conspiracy theories. “

Trust the federal government. Not.

Did you even read the article in the link?


18 posted on 09/02/2008 11:01:16 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SecAmndmt

Yes, I did read it. It was the only article I found in conmemoration of the 25th anniversary.


19 posted on 09/02/2008 11:06:36 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Silvie, Here are other 25th year commemoration articles and another very good one.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/history/world/270-kal-flight-007-remembered , http://www.rescue007.org/25years.htm , http://www.conservapedia.com/Korean_Airlines_Flight_007
http://www.aim.org/aim-report/hold-russia-accountable-for-kal-007-shootdown/

Here’s a first hand account http://www.conservapedia.com/KAL_007/_Russian_Ram_attempt of a fellow sailor aboard the Sterrett. Maybe you can write something about your experiences.

A question, I notice there is Hebrew on the posts to this link. I live in Israel, but I don’t think that you gus do. Is there a reason for the Hebrew?

Bert Schlossberg
Director
International Committee for the
Rescue of KAL 007 Survivors
www.rescue007.org


20 posted on 10/28/2008 9:17:46 AM PDT by Bert Schlossberg
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To: Just another Joe

Read post #20.


21 posted on 10/28/2008 9:22:27 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: Bert Schlossberg

Here is my review of that History Channel Documentary
http://www.rescue007.org/documentary_review.htm


22 posted on 10/28/2008 9:26:25 AM PDT by Bert Schlossberg
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To: Just another Joe

Joe (and Sylvie), sorry I addressed my posting to the wrong person. I thought that Sylvie was the person aboard the Sterrett instead of Joe. I try to follow KAL 007 matters wherever it pops up, especially what conservatives say or think as they usually have more accurate assessment and possibly connections to do something. Anyway,Joe, the fellow seaman aboard your ship, the Sterrett during the Search and Rescue (Salvage) was Don Downing CWO3. The article by him above, which is published in Conservapedia tells of the experience of the Russian attempt to disrupt the South Korean search by sinking the buoy, and their continued attempt at sinking even after the South Korean sailors attached themselves to it. If you would have anything else to add to this event or would like to tell of any other event during the search, we would publish it on our site.Finally, if you would have time and desire, we would appreciate your reading this http://www.rescue007.org/ruse.htm and this http://www.rescue007.org/photo_essay.htm and return any comments to us. An eyewitness of these events adds very precious information and insights.


23 posted on 11/01/2008 4:01:36 AM PDT by Bert Schlossberg
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