Posted on 09/05/2008 11:19:50 PM PDT by neverdem
At Wichita State recently, a college debate coach dropped his trousers after a foul-mouthed argument with the opposing coach in a debating tournament. YouTube shows it for the world to see.
""Obviously it got out of control, but to be honest I thought I was in a safe house," Shanahan said. "I thought I was part of a community that handled its problems internally and that recognized the dangers of exposing ourselves -- no pun intended -- to the rest of the country."
The coach obviously hasn’t a clue as to what a sign of respect is.
This is the Left’s idea of a good argument. I bet he thought he won after using more expletives than his opponent and then baring his ass in a coup de grâce.
“I thought I was part of a community that handled its problems internally....”
After exposing his rear-end? I think I know what “community” this is.
You would think that somewhere in all those links would be one to the actual VIDEO.
Then again, he could just be a real doofus.
In an insane world, the sane man must appear insane. — Spock, Stardate 20345
WSU Shockers make an appearance... I took 3 hrs (Anthropolgy) at WSU while on summer break from Texas A&M University... I’m still stumped over their baseball diamond infield of artificial turf and outfield of grass. It worked apparently ... they won a NCAA baseball championship with Eric Wedge if memory serves.
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I hadn’t heard of Pick’s Disease; it certainly sounds plausible and far preferable to your other alternative, Frat Boy Syndrome, aka doofusness. The “internal” comment makes me suspect the latter; he seemed to think the audience was going to keep his juvenile antics secret.
Thank you!
Sounds like they could use a community organizer.
you’re welcome :o)
If they're able to wait a eight weeks or so, I know where they can pick one up, on the cheap...
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Coach William Shanahan, who sports a caveman beard reaching below his belt
Say what? Most "cavemen" in movies, art and TV have little beards only a couple inches long!
I do agree about academia. The radical hippies knew that demonstrations and songs wouldnt change a thing - change had to come from within the institutions. They buckled down and studied, going on to careers in academia, journalism and politics in the Democratic Party. Too bad more didnt drop out.
A ‘safe house’? What he really means is cradle-to-grave union protected job in academia.
The Autumn of Boomer Madness!
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If McCain is so strong on national security, why is he a leading proponent of amnesty for illegals and "guest worker" programs (comprehensive immigration "reform")? If McCain is so strong on energy, the economy, and taxation, then why is he a leading proponent of carbon cap-and-trade (he sponsored the Climate Security Act three times in the Senate)? And why exactly does he support bailing out Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae with taxpayer money? And why did he consider doing the same for General Motors?
Saying that McCain is good on all these things is as good as saying he's a conservative: both are bold-faced lies...or, perhaps, delusions caused by drinking too much liberal Kool-Aid.
McCain is at best a corrupt (let's not forget the infamous Keating Five S&L scandal before the last big bailout) opportunistic career politician who confuses serving Mexico with serving the United States and who has listened to Teddy Kennedy and other liberals so much that he now believes their lies.
Sorry for spoiling the thread at post 22 but, since folks in my generation (Gen Y) will be left with the messes of the Boomers (and those before) (e.g., the enormous debt footprint of Big Government), I think it’s relevant to point out that McCain is part of the problem.
Obama: Im Not Going to Take Your Guns Away
Stay home or vote third party. Don't be surprised with what you get.
Enable the Democrat with an (R) after his name.
But I won't be surprised when "conservatives" here either nod approvingly or roll over and play dead as McCain and the Democrat Congress pass Big Government program after Big Government program, and conservatives get stuck holding the sign "It's our fault!" when things go wrong.
Here it is. Warning: Bad language and vulgarity. http://news.aol.com/article/debate-coach-screams-moons-audience/132022
I certainly won't be surprised by what I get from McCain't and 0bama. Sorry. I don't vote for socialism.
The 9-minute video on You Tube:
The Angry Professors, College Debate: Dr. Shanara Reid Brinkley versus Dr. William (Bill) Shanahan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXwy2VuA2V4&feature=related
For comic relief (as if that room of Ph.D.s isn’t comic relief enough), watch the 1:09 remix version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WEGZa9YBQ8&feature=related
Evidently those in the video were representatives from Emory, Vanderbilt, etc. gathered together for CODA 2008.
CODA = Cross Examination Debate Association
http://cedadebate.org/
An academic organization “dedicated to promoting critical thinking,...”
According to an August 22, 2008 statement from the association [http://cedadebate.org/?q=node/174], Fort Hays State University and their President Dr. Edward H. Hammond chose to “dismiss” Dr. Bill Shanahan.
I guess that translates to they decided to fire his over-exposed butt. Evidently there isn’t a penalty for using profanity as there is no mention of Dr. Shanara Reid Brinkley suffering any consequences (other than believing she was subjected to a racist attack).
IMO, anyone who is thinking of copping out and not voting for McCain this election should watch the video to see an example of what will happen to this country if we allow more “intellectuals” to be in charge.

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boomer weirdness?
give me a break....we never even dreamed of half the shite Ge X and Echo Boomers think is cool
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"Boomer Weirdness" is the great eruption of irrationality that seized the West three decades ago, when the Boomer Left rose to positions of power. I don't think the Boom Generation as a whole is any madder than other generations; but the Boomer Left -- ah, now we're talkin' several curlicues short of a plumbline... On the great issues of the day McCain and Palin just seem a lot more rational than the opposition. They can think straight. After almost two years of national exposure, Barack Obama is a bigger blank slate than ever; if anything he has deliberately confused Americans even more. Nobody knows what he would do if elected, and his potential appointees are freakier than Clinton's. As for Joe Biden, over 35 years in the US Senate he solidified his rep at the biggest loose cannon on that wildly careening deck. Between Robert Byrd and Joe Biden, the Senate has become as weird as the Oprah Show.Thanks neverdem.
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This article is spot on, and I don't know what your problem is. The boomers are supposed to be the adults now, and if followup generations are even more unsane than us, well whose fault is it - hint: look in the mirror.
The problem is that the media/wall street/dem political establishment/ivy league crowd have between them done nothing useful, learned, in Ronald Reagan's words, lots of things that just aren't so, but believe that they, the radicals of the 1960's who hung together, are entitled station and respect as if they were an hereditary, god-sanctioned, aristocracy.
In some, I think this is one of the most important articles of our time.
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You’ve drank the koolaid if you believe that the faults of the under 45 crowd can be laid simply at the feet of those older than you. What a crybaby...blaming some 50 year old fatass like me for your problems. You sure you are on the right forum? This forum is about personal responsibility.
You and your generation have to exercise your own free will.
It may shock you but the 60s radicals you allude to were never more than a loud tiny tiny minority of youth then and most campuses did not riot either. Neither was everyone over 50 once a hippie or had orgies and did lots of drugs.
But if we are going to get all defensive about our eras I will tell you right now from oberving all the young parents at my children’s grade school that many men today are soft as hell.
Like girls, subservient to their wives and all act like Moby or Daghtry...and many are little lefty PC boys with highlights. I’m surrounded by them at PTO meetings. It sucks. This is Nashville home of yer namesake and the men are wussies...probably never busted a grape in their life....can’t hunt or fight...what the hell good are they?
Crazy....that or they are little irresponsible thug miscreants stuck in adolescence.
You want to pick fights with yer elders son maybe you ought step outta tha glass house. Aside from those srving, I am less than impressed with today’s young man.
Every generation has it’s faults....guess who ushered in the great society? why the Greatest Generation of course.
I don’t sit around whining about it and blaming them for I was left to deal with.
He pops. You sure seem to be steamed up about something. When you sober up maybe we can have a rational conversation about it.
I’ve argued this before with you. You often latch onto the blame the boomer game.
You have a chip on your shoulders about folks your parents age.
I suppose it comes from a personal shortcoming. I hope you work it out.
Btw...I’m not your daddy, at least I don’t think I am.
Son?
Because I am one and I find my fellow boomers to be, for the most part, the most pathetic crowd of incompetent do nothings I could ever imagine.
I am not one of that kind, and if you have any pride in yourself you won't stand up for the most destructive generation either. Sure we are all individuals, and deserve to be judged individually, but as a group, we are despicable leeches. Our financial geniuses just lost $1T being so brilliant playing an old old con game but claiming it was something new. The list goes on and on, and the chickens are finally coming home to roost.
You're right in describing the left from the '60s. Most of us weren't involved in drugs, protests, or anything of that nature. Now, however, the left is entrenched in everything from universities to the media to wall street.
However, most of us are living our lives, trying to keep our businesses going, and taking care of our families.
"...I find my fellow boomers to be, for the most part, the most pathetic crowd of incompetent do nothings I could ever imagine."
I guess that is why our country is in the tank. /s
I'm sorry your are such a negative person.
BTW, don't ever say this again..."the chickens are finally coming home to roost"...lest someone confuse you with Rev. Wright.
I hear you bud. I’m with you believe me.
I will be votong for Palin— McCain just happens to be on the ticket. He did choose her after all, that’s one big thing he’s done right.
I’m actually voting for a chance to support her again in four years. I just pray the vortex of stupidity, otherwise known as DC, doesn’t get to her.
Good article!
While the entrenched 60's leftists and their running dogs run our principal institutions, which jobs they got by being the best group of sycophants and go along to get along kind of folks in the history of our fair republic.
While you think everything is rolling along just fine, I guess you didn't notice the news item today about the government taking over FNM and FMC. Guess who lead that mess and guess who just inflated the economy another few hundred billion to pay for it. Yet - you guess it - another bunch of ivy league boomers who were so smart they don't need to follow the same accounting rules about income exceeding expenses that you have to if you run a small business.
Your kind of accounting is for the little folk and has been out of fashion in circles of power for about 20 years.
I am actually a very positive person. I believe that if you take facts as they exist, apply reason, figure out what you need to do, and work hard to put the solutions into place you can accomplish great things.
For instance, I view Petraeus very positively. He is a breath of fresh air. I am also very aware that it was these same unaccomplished boomer elitists who created the misdirected mess in Iraq that Petraeus had to get us out of.
And I am awfully hard on idiots who bury their heads in the sand and don't look to see what is going on around them and then try to think hard about it.
In other words, God gave you eyes to see, ears to hear and a brain to think. Try using them for a change. I am a positive person, and I believe with a bit of self-motivation you can do these things too.
In brief, your Dr. Pangloss act is not an anti-dote to the NYT.
You’re pathetic. Your notion that you can blame all of culture’s ills on one group based on age is nonsensical and reeks of someone who has yet to fully mature.
Why don’t you fess up and tell us why you are so bitter?
I suspect something lacking at home.
BTW...pull yer britches up in public would ya?
It’s hard to explain to my two boys what’s wrong with boys like you when they see ya with yer pants around her knees and yer ass crack showing.
Why do you argue like the leftist boomers this article complains of? In order to beat up on me, you put words in my mouth that I didn't utter, because I didn't blame "all of culture's ills" on us boomers.
What I do blame us boomers for is the really pathetic lack of leadership in all of our principal institutions. Few are running well, and the the overwhelming fraction of leadership positions in each of these is held by boomers.
The one exception that I know of is some parts of the US military. The military organization in Iraq is running pretty well right now, but we had to weed out a lot of bad leadership and came pretty close to a disaster before Bush tossed out his good ol boys and brought in Petraeus. And all of those guys in state and defense and the IPA, etc. etc., who damned near brought us to ruin are boomers.
It is boomers who just ran FNM and FMC into the ground and ran Bear Stearns into the ground. I mean you want to claim boomers are so great and they/we can't even count to the nearest $100B or so.
We have better in our generation, but they are not among the self-elect that is running the whole place right now.
And the other thing I want to know is why a name-calling weasel like you is trying to duck accountability - just like the leftists this article complains of - for what is going on. A real man bellies up to his responsibilities, stands up and marches forward showing folks how to do the right thing. It is weasels like you who go around blaming everyone else.
Try reading the article, and then using your brains to evaluate the argument instead of bloviating out of all of your orifices at the same time.
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