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McCain Camp to ChastiseDems for Discarding American Flags
Fox News ^ | August 6, 2008 | Carl Cameron

Posted on 09/06/2008 9:49:21 AM PDT by plangent

John McCain’s presidential campaign appears prepared to chastise Democrats over leaving behind piles of miniature American flags after Barack Obama’s nomination acceptance speech last Thursday in Denver.

Boy Scouts reportedly have arrived with at least two dozen trash bags full of the flags at the site of a McCain rally scheduled to begin at 12:30 p.m. in Colorado Springs.

(Excerpt) Read more at elections.foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 2008dncconvention; boyscouts; coloradosprings; democrats; dnc; flagetiquette; mccain; obama; oldglory; sovereignty
Just another indicator of the Dems love for America
1 posted on 09/06/2008 9:49:22 AM PDT by plangent
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To: plangent

As I posted on another thread, this is a wonderful idea. Not the gross disrespect paid toward our national ensign, but the recycling of these flags and public embarassment of those disgusting jerks responsible.


2 posted on 09/06/2008 9:50:46 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (On Free Republic PBD [political bipolar disorder] rules!)
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To: plangent

No kidding.
How disrespectful.


3 posted on 09/06/2008 9:51:26 AM PDT by SoKatt ("Change" is not a strategy!)
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To: plangent

People who have been immersed in the military culture view the flag completely differently from people who haven’t. He’s already got the military vote so making a big deal of the flag is not a good vote getter.


4 posted on 09/06/2008 9:52:14 AM PDT by DManA
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To: plangent
The Dems' patriotism is as phony as their reverence for our country's Flag!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

5 posted on 09/06/2008 9:53:17 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: plangent

Too good Obama vs. The boy scouts mom and apple pie. Wait till the clingers find out he does not allow his kids to get Crismas presents. No I am not kidding. It is true.


6 posted on 09/06/2008 9:53:38 AM PDT by screaminsunshine
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To: DManA

It’s not about votes, it’s about respect.


7 posted on 09/06/2008 9:53:53 AM PDT by porter_knorr
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To: plangent
Cael Cameron said 84 trash bags full. Mostly tossed in and around dumpsters.

So much for love of country from the socialist-alinsky O-bots.

8 posted on 09/06/2008 9:54:50 AM PDT by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
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To: DManA
People who have been immersed in the military culture view the flag completely differently from people who haven’t. He’s already got the military vote so making a big deal of the flag is not a good vote getter.

I think you are incorrect. Let us return to the values of not too long ago before the leftist activists, where we loved our Country and respected the Flag of our Nation.

It will be a breath of fresh air. Remember how Reagan reignited our pride to be Americans?

9 posted on 09/06/2008 9:55:24 AM PDT by frogjerk (MSM: We will not question Obama bin Biden...)
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To: plangent

Just another example of many Dims’ superficial and shallow patriotism.


10 posted on 09/06/2008 9:55:46 AM PDT by AngrySpud (Sarah Palin, my sister in Christ.)
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To: plangent

Wow, this is a big time zing.

I hope they hand them out to people at the rally, after thoroughly sanitizing them of course. :p


11 posted on 09/06/2008 9:56:15 AM PDT by KoRn (Barack Obama Must Be Stopped!!!)
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To: plangent
also posted here http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2076087/posts


12 posted on 09/06/2008 9:56:41 AM PDT by edzo4 (Vote McCain, Keep Your Change)
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To: plangent

Flag Recycling.

Dumpster diving at its patriotic finest.

And yet what a shameful lack of couth and flag etiquette.

Old Glory deserves better than this.


Old Ironsides

AY TEAR her tattered ensign down!
Long has it waved on high,
And many an eye has danced to see
That banner in the sky;
Beneath it rung the battle shout,
And burst the cannon’s roar;
The meteor of the ocean air
Shall sweep the clouds no more.

Her deck once red with heroes’ blood,
Where knelt the vanquished foe,
When winds were hurrying o’er the flood,
And waves were white below,
No more shall feel the victor’s tread,
Or know the conquered knee;
The harpies of the shore shall pluck
The eagle of the sea!

Oh, better that her shattered hulk
Should sink beneath the wave;
Her thunders shook the mighty deep,
And there should be her grave;
Nail to the mast her holy flag
Set every threadbare sail,
And give her to the god of storms,
The lightning and the gale!

—Oliver Wendell Holmes


13 posted on 09/06/2008 9:57:17 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: plangent

Before McCain steps off the stage he best make sure that at his rallies flags aren’t left behind for the clean up crews to take care.


14 posted on 09/06/2008 9:58:12 AM PDT by deport ( ----Cue Spooky Music---)
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To: porter_knorr
It’s not about votes, it’s about respect.

Correct. The debate should be framed John and Sarah the Patriots vs. Obama and Biden citizens of the World.

I choose the Patriots.

15 posted on 09/06/2008 9:58:12 AM PDT by frogjerk (MSM: We will not question Obama bin Biden...)
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To: plangent; All

Check out lormand’s work here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2076071/posts?page=69


16 posted on 09/06/2008 9:59:54 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: edzo4

Unbelievable.....massive cultural dissonance....who are these democrats ? And way is this election even close ?


17 posted on 09/06/2008 10:00:25 AM PDT by mick
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To: deport

Obama/Biden will claim the McCain/Palin team bought those flags. I hope they have video of the Boy Scouts who picked them up. The lying dems will lie about it and say....I believe this is their mantra.....”There is no evidence that these particular flags were disrespected in Denver. Prove it.”


18 posted on 09/06/2008 10:01:31 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: plangent

” The campaign says the flags were recovered from Invesco Field after the Democrats concluded their convention there, and they are going to be used as part of the warm-up ceremonies before McCain takes the stage for the rally.”

McCain may have one of the best ground games ,ever.
His ads have been terrific.
This is a tremendous move.
It..will..resonate.
Barry is the gift that keeps on giving.

It can never be said with a straight face that Obama loves apple pie ( he does not like any sweets, especially ice cream ..and he dislikes beer and dogs- the four legged kind , heck, he probably hates hot dogs , too ! ),
motherhood and the American flag.


19 posted on 09/06/2008 10:03:45 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: plangent

Very good. Keep hitting the leftists where they’re weak. (”God bless America? No, no... God DAMN America...”)


20 posted on 09/06/2008 10:04:44 AM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Interesting Times

Drudge already has it up on his site.

Not a good week for the Nobama campaign!


21 posted on 09/06/2008 10:08:35 AM PDT by bushsupporter30
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To: porter_knorr

BINGO!


22 posted on 09/06/2008 10:08:48 AM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: plangent

The DNC was just going to have them recycled into something useful like, you know, toilet paper. In their twisted, warped minds that would make them the patriotic ones, protecting the environment instead of some empty symbol, donchaknow.


23 posted on 09/06/2008 10:13:11 AM PDT by lonevoice (John McCain was a Kinoki foot pad in the Reagan Revolution)
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To: bushsupporter30
Not a good week for the Nobama campaign!

come to think of it....I have heard nothing about obama since Sarah was announced........can't say that I miss him at all......

24 posted on 09/06/2008 10:13:52 AM PDT by tioga (Big Mac and the Cuda - 2008)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Old Ironsides

Thanks for a trip down Memory Lane. As a kid in PS11 in NYC back in '48, we had to memorize that poem and then stand up in class and prove it.

I think that poem galvanized the public to save the then-hulk from destruction. I visited her some years back and you couldn't help but feel a surge of pride as well as a sense of history as you walked the decks.

25 posted on 09/06/2008 10:13:54 AM PDT by Oatka (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: plangent

Last week there was a thread on FR about the Dems throwing out American flags. A picture showed clear trash bags with discarded posters, including one with Biden’s name on it, along with American flags.

Maybe someone could find that thread.


26 posted on 09/06/2008 10:14:28 AM PDT by Atlantian
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To: edzo4

No recycling?

How un-green of them.


27 posted on 09/06/2008 10:15:51 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: DManA

Hate to tell you but after 9/11 when every one has flags on their cars after a few month when they would fall or fly off in to the street, there was many a person that stopped and walk out in traffic to collect them. I know I did and I usually was not they only one going for that same flag at the same time.


28 posted on 09/06/2008 10:16:40 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Hey Bill Maher...who's the stewardess now bitch!)
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To: Interesting Times

That ought to be a Pubbie promo - “We say God Bless America - they say God Damn America” and then show pics of the flags in those garbage bags, which fade out, and replaced by one showing people WAVING those same flags.


29 posted on 09/06/2008 10:18:29 AM PDT by Oatka (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: DManA

Disagree. The multimillions who SUPPORT our troops also consider our Flag and flag etiquette a big deal.

All of them need to know OF these outrages, because this kind of treatment of our national icons perfectly frames every Liberal’s true feelings for our symbols of sovereignty.

Just as do Obama’s refusing a flag pin, refusing to put his hand over his heart during the Pledge, his Presidential Seal ripoff....


30 posted on 09/06/2008 10:19:10 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: DManA

I never served but would never think of putting our flag in a Hefty bag. McCain is spotlighting the Dems’ lack of patriotism (and, yes, millions of voters have reason to question it). Hats off to McCain.


31 posted on 09/06/2008 10:23:31 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: plangent

Here, in Southern Delaware, the American Legion vets, volunteers and the Vo-Tech High School ROTC unit placed 12” by 18” flags on the graves of every veteran in the cemteries around around our town for Memorial Day.

No veteran should be without a flag for his or her grave.

And the graves went back to Civil War veterans.

In one cemetery, there were over 250 flags flying by the end of that day.


32 posted on 09/06/2008 10:26:27 AM PDT by exit82 (The only person that could get me to vote for John McCain is Sarah Palin -God bless her)
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To: DManA
He’s already got the military vote so making a big deal of the flag is not a good vote getter.

I don't think it's about getting votes, it's about respect for the flag. I hope McCain makes a big deal of this.

33 posted on 09/06/2008 10:28:09 AM PDT by McGruff (Ooooooohhhh, Sarah Barracuda. Ohhhhhhhhhhhh.)
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To: plangent

Smart move McCain!


34 posted on 09/06/2008 10:35:27 AM PDT by GVnana ("The American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery.")
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To: plangent

35 posted on 09/06/2008 10:46:43 AM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: plangent

I have to believe that donating the flags to schools in Denver would have gone over very well. Throwing them in the trash will also go over very well, for McCain.


36 posted on 09/06/2008 10:48:28 AM PDT by khenrich ("I'm going to tell you something: lighten up folks. We have a planet to save." = Pelosi)
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To: Texas Songwriter

Pictures were shown the last night of the dem convention of the flags lying in the trash cans. They had to hand the flags out to start with, the dems didn’t bring their own. There is ample evidence that they threw the flags away, there is no way they can lie their way out of it.


37 posted on 09/06/2008 10:54:05 AM PDT by calex59
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To: plangent
But don't dare question their patriotism!! /s

I've questioned it since I was old enough to cast my first vote for POTUS in 1980. For the great Ronald Reagan.

38 posted on 09/06/2008 10:56:35 AM PDT by libs_kma (NOBAMA. Keep the change)
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To: calex59
there is no way they can lie their way out of it

One cannot underestimate the skill of a Democrat to lie regarding any issue. Watch these bastards, they will try lie when the truth fits better.

39 posted on 09/06/2008 10:56:41 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: plangent


40 posted on 09/06/2008 10:58:46 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Texas Songwriter; Diogenes
Watch this young American veteran chastise Obama.
41 posted on 09/06/2008 11:00:20 AM PDT by jwalsh07 (Sarah Palin Pro Life, Pro Gun, Pro America, Thank you Lord! :-})
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To: jwalsh07
Thank you. I watched it. I watched a quiet, unassuming, hero state the case simply. How can they(dems) answer this? Probably with euphemisms, lies, and redefining patiotism.

Thanks again.

42 posted on 09/06/2008 11:11:01 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: plangent
Carl Cameron just did a short segment on this.

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He said look for just about everyone to have a flag when McCain speaks in about 20 mins.

43 posted on 09/06/2008 11:13:14 AM PDT by McGruff (Ooooooohhhh, Sarah Barracuda. Ohhhhhhhhhhhh.)
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To: impeachedrapist

I also said on the other 2 threads that they should make a video of flag moments, Iwo Jima, Washington crossing the Delaware (particularly good as the plagarist is from Delaware.) Francis Scott Key at Fort McHenry, Betsy Ross, myth or legend, the moon landing, 9/11...

I thought it was John Wayne who did the Ragged Old Flag but it was Johnny Cash, I know, Iknow, old timer’s disease. They used to play it at rodeos and that was years ago.

Are there any freepers out there who are talented and would like to put something like this together for utube? I think we could use it as an issue throughout the campaign.

Johnny Cash Song Lyrics ]

RAGGED OLD FLAG

I walked through a country court house square
On a park bench an old man was sitting there
I said, “Your court house is kinda run down”
He said, “Naw, it’ll do for our little town”
I said, “Your flag pole has a leaned a little bit
And that’s a Ragged Old Flag you got hanging on it”
He said, “Have a seat” and I sat down
“Is this the first time you’ve been in our little town?”
I said, “I think it is,” he said “I don’t like to brag
But we’re kinda proud of that Ragged Old Flag
You see, we got a little hole in that flag there
When Washington took it across the Delaware
And it got powder burned the night Francis Scott Key
Sat watchin’ it writing ‘Say Can You See’
And it got a bad rip in New Orleans
With Packinham and Jackson tuggin’ at its seams
And it almost fell at the Alamo
Beside the Texas flag but she waved on through
She got cut with a sword at Chancellorsville
And she got cut again at Shiloh Hill
There was Robert E. Lee, Beauregard and Bragg
And the south wind blew hard on that Ragged Old Flag
On Flanders Field in World War I
She got a big hole from a Bertha Gun
She turned blood red in World War II
She hung limp and low by the time it was through
She was in Korea and Vietnam
She went where she was sent by her Uncle Sam
Native Americans, brown, yellow and white
All shed red blood for the Stars and Stripes
In her own good land here she’s been abused
She’s been burned, dishonored, denied and refused
And the government for which she stands
Has been scandalized throughout the land
And she’s getting threadbare and wearing thin
But she’s in good shape for the shape she’s in
Cause she’s been through the fire before
And I believe she can take a whole lot more
So we raise her up every morning, take her down every night
We don’t let her touch the ground and fold her up right
On second thought I do like to brag
Cause I’m mighty proud of that Ragged Old Flag.”


44 posted on 09/06/2008 11:48:46 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: plangent

Even though these are ‘cheap’ representations of the American flag, they still count as flags! And should be disposed of (or recycled is even better) properly. I fly a small 3’x5’ flag in front of my house (sadly one of the only flags shown on my block except at 4th of July)—because we are next to a big park the wind tends to be pretty strong out there and every 3 months or so I have to replace the flags because they become shredded on the bottom where the wind has been whipping them about. I would NEVER toss the old flag in the trash can—I fold them up carefully as I can and take them to my daughter’s elementary school. One of the teachers is a boy scout leader, and she and her troop dispose of the flags properly.

Ubama’s people should have known better. [how do you show an emoticon for contempt?] >:-(


45 posted on 09/06/2008 11:54:39 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud Rush Conservative leaning toward the McCain/Palin ticket now!!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Gee That's certainly an relic. An American poet that wrote poems for America not against her.

Love this stanza:

Oh, better that her shattered hulk Should sink beneath the wave; Her thunders shook the mighty deep, And there should be her grave;

I always felt that old battleships that were in historic battles should be towed out to sea and gave a proper burial, not taken apart piecemeal and sold as scrape.
46 posted on 09/06/2008 12:23:38 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: tophat9000
Hate to tell you but after 9/11 when every one has flags on their cars after a few month when they would fall or fly off in to the street, there was many a person that stopped and walk out in traffic to collect them. I know I did and I usually was not they only one going for that same flag at the same time.

On 9/11, I bought from my local grocery store, for full price, a hand flag with a broken stick that would most likely have been dicarded. I still have it, sans stick, on the visor in my car.

47 posted on 09/06/2008 1:23:31 PM PDT by supercat
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To: DManA
He’s already got the military vote so making a big deal of the flag is not a good vote getter.

IOW just throw it on the floor like Joe Biden did at the convention. It is always a 'big deal' friend. Its a symbol of all that the United States stands for. And, don't you forget it!!!!

48 posted on 09/06/2008 2:27:17 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: jwalsh07

Absolutely awesome. :*)

Just added this to my blog. We will NEVER have a President Ubama as long as there are people of the same honorable caliber & character as this hero in the USA!!!


49 posted on 09/06/2008 2:46:54 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud Rush Conservative leaning toward the McCain/Palin ticket now!!)
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To: plangent

A few years ago I attended a rally when Clinton was confiscating land for ‘national monuments’(and some private property) on Soda Mountain in So. Oregon. The full course of envirofreaks were there with their dozens of fancy corporate/non profit $ signs. Several of us ‘rednecks’ stayed after they left and cleaned up the trash and signs they tossed away on their ‘monument’.


50 posted on 09/06/2008 2:55:56 PM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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