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Rassmussen finally puts it at a tie, big convention bump erases Obama's lead to nada.
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Posted on 09/07/2008 5:06:30 AM PDT by sunmars

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To: sofaman
said on Thurs morning that it will take until Tuesday to have an accurate reading of the effect of Palin and McCain’s speeches.

I think we need to wait until Thursday to see the full effect of the Church vote. Many Christian undecideds will be waiting to discuss with others today.

41 posted on 09/07/2008 5:50:35 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: John Robie

Well we can hope but I’m not concluding that at this point. I’m here in Hudson County, NJ right across the water from midtown Manhattan and I can tell you the FBI has locked up some of the top Rat county executives and is still working on corruption here.

But it hasn’t dented the Rat machine here. Not at all. The people just put in new rats to replace the jailed Rats and it goes on and on.

In the back of my mind I’m thinking, I have to get out of here. I just know my tolerance for living with these people will reach a point with higher taxes and lack of accountability where I say enough.


42 posted on 09/07/2008 5:50:54 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: sunmars
They said the poll was taken after Palins address, not McCain's>

Rassmussen and Gallup both said on Friday that the real numbers on the bounce would not be in until somewhere around Monday -Wednesday.

43 posted on 09/07/2008 5:51:41 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. FReerepublic,com baby)
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To: sunmars
The best thing about all this is they are tied and yet there’s actually about 10% more Dems polled than Republicans in the poll.

I wouldn't be too confident about that. The Democrats have had a very good few years. They have made significant gains since 2004, both in the number of people who self-identify as Democrats, and in the number of actual registrations.

We are going to have to fight hard for every vote. These are great numbers and I do believe that they will only increase. But it is much too soon to dance on Obama's political grave.

Let's pump up those enthusiasm numbers, and prove it by additional donations to the campaign.

-ccm

44 posted on 09/07/2008 5:52:13 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: John Robie

“The mayor of detroit will cost him Michigan. Some group is running an ad that shows him praising the mayor and then show the mayor’s mugshots”

No, the imbeciles in Detroit will still vote Democrat.


45 posted on 09/07/2008 5:52:28 AM PDT by Cheryllynn
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To: Soliton
Can't do it.

That would be the biggest flip-flop of them all. It would show a serious lack of judgment. And after all, he doesn't make mistakes. Just ask him. The ads that would follow would show terrorist in action and how you don't get second chances with peoples lives.

46 posted on 09/07/2008 5:53:00 AM PDT by DB
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To: savedbygrace

“Weekend polls tend to favor Dims.”

Rassmussen norms for party affilialtion, which removes the wekend effect. Look at his numbers; it’s not there.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/general_election_match_up_history

Gallup, which does not norm for party affiliation, has actually seen a mild reverse weekend effect this year.

News events like conventions take time to filter into polling because 1) a lot of voters don’t pay much attention to the news and only get their information in snippets, so it takes them awhile to figure out what’s going on and decide what it means and 2) tracking polls are rolling averages so it takes four days from the end of an event for it to get fully factored in to the polling. McCain’s speech was Thursday night. The third evening of polling after the speech will occur today, so McCain’s full bounce should be evident by Tuesday or Wednesday.


47 posted on 09/07/2008 5:53:38 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: lt.america
Someone needs to find out who comprises those 9% of Republicans who are voting for Obama and bring them back to their right minds

Some are Dems who are too lazy to switch parties, some are liars who want to skew the polls, and some are libertarians who want to teach the GOP a lesson.

48 posted on 09/07/2008 5:53:50 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Cheryllynn

The ad is targeting people in the suburbs. The state is a tossup and a lot of democrats will vote for McCain. Clinton would have carried the state, but she is not running.


49 posted on 09/07/2008 5:54:59 AM PDT by John Robie
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To: LS

They should use Palin to go after Pelosi, Reid and congress in general. Make Obama and Biden have to stand up for them.


50 posted on 09/07/2008 5:57:01 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: romanesq

If the POLLS, tweakable and tweaked as they are,
show McPalin leading Obiden after the convention turbulence settles ...
then something else interesting is likely to occur.

Around early October i expect to see the ministry of propaganda begin changing its tune.
No, of course not! They won’t start supporting the All-American ticket.
But they will START BACKING OFF the extreme partisan/ideological commitment.

They realize that they are struggling to stay alive as an institution.
They realize that a solid majority of Americans recognize their bias - and deplore it.
They want to stay around as players.
And they know that continuing to spit into a wind that’s gathering irresistible force
is not the way to stay around and retain any influence.


51 posted on 09/07/2008 5:57:17 AM PDT by Eleutherios
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To: sunmars

McCain needs to stay away from gushing over his opposition and telling the public how he will appoint liberals to his cabinet. Focus on the issues middle America wants to hear, the economy, the threat of Russia and terrorism, radical leftists social policies like removing guns, fourth semester abortion and homosexual marriage. Stay focused, stay conservative and people will vote for you.


52 posted on 09/07/2008 5:59:35 AM PDT by sasafras (Diversity Programs = Mandated Racism)
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To: sunmars

While the results are looking good overall, there’s one thing that McCain could do better.

According to the poll results, those who think economic issues are important are more likely to favor Obama; those who think fiscal issues are more important are more likely to favor McCain.

McCain needs to hammer home the issue that fiscal issues ARE economic issues.

When the government wastes and spends and takes less of the taxpayer’s money, it is good for the economy.

People don’t seem to understand that connection.


53 posted on 09/07/2008 6:01:19 AM PDT by Rammer
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To: jerry557
They say no way she does the VP debate.

I have seen the video of the 2006 gubernatorial debate. She'll do fine. She is as cool as ice.

I was heartened to read on another thread that she is a voracious newspaper reader and has been since childhood. She is unlikely to be tripped up by any reasonable question of geopolitical trivia.

-ccm

54 posted on 09/07/2008 6:01:44 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: LadyNavyVet

A less sinister reason may be attributable to weekend polling. The weekend crew doing the polling is likely to be less experienced and while the people polled are less accessible.

The questioners, the supervisors of the questioners and the people doing the calculations may be less accurate than those during the week. Combine the inexperience with a more difficult task and the outcome is less reliable.


55 posted on 09/07/2008 6:02:18 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: ConservativeGreek
He’ll be even more hestitant and cautious.

He's also about to be hammered about Ayers, Rezko, the Annenberg Challenge, and Rev. Wright harder than ever before. He is really going to be rattled, I think.

-ccm

56 posted on 09/07/2008 6:05:00 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: John Robie

“The ad is targeting people in the suburbs. The state is a tossup and a lot of democrats will vote for McCain. Clinton would have carried the state, but she is not running”

We can hope. It would be a dream come true for me :)


57 posted on 09/07/2008 6:10:02 AM PDT by Cheryllynn
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To: jerry557

DUers are saying Huckabee will replace Palin?

LOLOLOLOLOLOL! In their ideal, pink sky world...:)


58 posted on 09/07/2008 6:18:28 AM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: mainepatsfan
Are you channeling Willie Brown? He says pretty much the same thing, that Palin now has made Obama/Biden the "establishment" party, and he's a DEM!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2076526/posts

59 posted on 09/07/2008 6:25:59 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: sunmars

I honestly don’t believe these polls are accurate, and that in fact McCain has a lead.


60 posted on 09/07/2008 6:36:44 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Obama was not properly vetted.)
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