Posted on 09/13/2008 2:33:14 PM PDT by ricks_place
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Sure you do, sweetie.
Dr. William J. Shaw:
They say they are trying to counter the growing influence of white evangelicals in national politics. “They have a strong voice now in national politics, and it would seem they are the only voice,” the Rev. Dr. William J. Shaw, president of the National Baptist Convention USA, said of white evangelicals. “And the challenge to us is to be a voice that is soundly biblically based and that doesn’t provide a blanket sanction to government policy as others have done. This is a dangerous time when white evangelicals dictate government policy.”
But they also raise questions about the conservatives in their own ranks, accusing them of being seduced by Mr. Bush’s “faith-based initiatives” program to funnel federal monies to church-run social service programs and asking how much sway they really have.
“Where did this come from?” said the Rev. Madison Shockley, pastor of the Pilgrim United Church of Christ in Carlsbad, Calif., who with Mr. Calloway wrote an opinion article in The Los Angeles Times in response to the “Black Contract With America.” “It came from Bush and the Christian right, and the carrot is faith-based money.”
Dr. Shaw leads the country’s largest black denomination, the National Baptist Convention USA, of which Mr. Lusk and his congregation are members. The churches where each has preached for decades are 20 minutes apart in Philadelphia, and each man preaches politics.
At his White Rock Baptist Church, Dr. Shaw has spoken out against a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage. He says he does not believe that the Bible permits such unions, but he pointedly rejects a government ban on them.
“My position on same-sex marriage is not that it is the sole determinant on moral issues,” Dr. Shaw said. “Marriage is threatened more by adultery, and we don’t have a constitutional ban on that. Alcohol is a threat to the stability of family, and we don’t have a constitutional ban on that.”
Right you are!
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080829/COL10/808290318
Obama calls on black churches to register voters
August 29, 2008
Sen. Barack Obama has been quietly working with ministers nationwide to mobilize a massive voter registration drive because he believes the black church and its members could determine whether he gains the White House in a tight presidential race, the Free Press has learned.
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In a move from the Bill Clinton playbook that allowed the former president to so connect with black voters that he was dubbed “the first black president,” Obama has reached out since last September in a series of conference calls to ministers and leaders nationwide to create a network to push the vote.
The most recent call came Sunday evening, four days before he was to accept the Democratic presidential nomination. During the 50-minute call, Obama spoke about how close the election will be in November.
“He said it’s really going to be an incredibly narrow margin, if you base it on the last two national elections,” said the Rev. Nicholas Hood III, pastor of Plymouth United Church of Christ in Detroit, who participated in the call. “He believes that the black church and the black community may be the difference in putting him over.”
The ministers also heard from the Rev. William J. Shaw and the Rev. T. DeWitt Smith Jr. Shaw is president of the National Baptist Convention, the nation’s oldest and largest African-American convention with about 7.5 million members. ...
PING!
RE: #17
Nasty. Mean & Nasty.
This is not the same as Southern Baptist or Independent Baptist — just a common misuse of a name.
“3. So she wasn’t home getting her kids ready for school at 11:00 in the morning. Anybody send this to Drudge yet?”
I was over at http://www.democrats-against-obama.org/ earlier today, and they were commenting on her schedule.
That is so odd. Why would anyone not want to give young kids toys? Is it they send money in their names to buy someone fake person a fake cow?
Wow, they need Mrs. B.H.O to go and shore up the black voter base? Sounds like Hussein’s campaign is in trouble.
You said it! Why do Michelle and Barak and the America-hating left get to define how the world "should be" or how America "should be" for that matter? Maybe I would like to have a little say in it, and maybe other people might, too.
How the "world should be" is not exactly a foregone conclusion. Furthermore, our Constitution deliberately set up a system in which many were to contend for the type of self-government/world they wanted with largely majority rule but also checks and balances that were to keep the majority from steamrolling the minority. No elites were appointed to tell anybody else how "the world should be".
I am real sick of hearing that phrase from the Obamas and the rest of the left. They act as if this country (and the world) were their personal possession. What they really want for America is for it to degenerate into third-world status with no independently-thinking middle class, but with elites and the downtrodden (who will be trained to take orders really, really well). I think that is really the "world as it should be" for the left.
It is quite common for Muslims in rural areas, and also for elderly Muslims, not to know how old they are. My SIL was born in Pakistan (he is now a U.S. citizen), and he says his own Grandma does not know how old shes is. The hauntingly lovely girl that National Geographic photographed for their cover some time ago, and who is now a young, married teen (they re-interviewed her recently) is a rural Muslim. She also does not know exactly how old she is. Modern, urban Muslims, whose births are much more likely to been registered, do know. You are correct about Muslims and B-days.
They need to confess their sins and repent, if they want the Lord to listen.
You are so, so right about that. A friend of mine is an Obama supporter and can't see past abortion. She is deceived.
I guess for some women allowing a doctor to stab a pair of scissors into your unborn child’s head and suck the brains out of it is just a personal choice.
I haven't heard back. Maybe she's still sitting there in shock. She has been rationalizing sin for far too long.
Michele’s gutter “religion” stresses hate of whites and America.
Because to give a child a birthday present is to imitate Christians and Jews. To imitate is to be like. In Islam, only Muhammad’s birthday is worthy of notice and celebration.
Of course, we don’t know why Obama doesn’t celebrate his daughter’s birthdays, why “my Muslim religion” slipped so easily from his lips or why he doesn’t automatically put hand to heart during the pledge of allegiance...
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