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Obama: "Even if I wanted to take (guns) away, I don’t have the votes in Congress."
National Review Online ^ | 9-16-08 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 09/16/2008 6:12:07 AM PDT by TitansAFC

Obama yesterday, according to Jake Tapper:

"The bottom line is this. If you’ve got a rifle, you’ve got a shotgun, you’ve got a gun in your house, I’m not taking it away. Alright? So they can keep on talking about it but this is just not true. And by the way, here’s another thing you’ve got to understand. Even if I wanted to take it away, I couldn’t get it done. I don’t have the votes in Congress."

That "I don't have the votes in Congress" line has ricocheted around the country…


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KEYWORDS: 2008; banglist; bitter; democratcongress; democratparty; democrats; electionpresident; elections; guns; mccain; nobama08; obama; obamabiden; palin; shallnotbeinfringed
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1 posted on 09/16/2008 6:12:07 AM PDT by TitansAFC
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To: TitansAFC

Yeah, but Obama can make sure Gun Manufacturers have NO protection from outrageous lawsuits and puts them out of business. Which is exactly what Obama did in the Senate.


2 posted on 09/16/2008 6:14:23 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: TitansAFC
If & when he does Congress better find a good hiding place to save their hides!
3 posted on 09/16/2008 6:14:24 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: TitansAFC

I, I, I, me, me, me. How about this Obama: “Even if a president and Congress wanted to take your guns away, They could not. The 2nd Amendment is set in stone in our constitution”.


4 posted on 09/16/2008 6:15:29 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: TitansAFC

So, in reality, he in fact wants to recind the Second Amendment, but he’s just not able to at this moment with the current Congress.


5 posted on 09/16/2008 6:15:49 AM PDT by Obadiah (I remember when the climate never changed, then Bush stole the election.)
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To: TitansAFC

What does he mean by I don’t have the votes in congress?
I thought everyone loved him.


6 posted on 09/16/2008 6:16:01 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: TitansAFC
OBAMA = REID/PELOSI

 

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY:  This report studied the voting records of Senator Obama and Senator Reid as provided by Project Vote Smart (see links below).  Obama supports the Democratic leadership as much as McCain supported the Republicans.  But unlike McCain, when Obama bucks his party, it is not to work as a bi-partisan to come up with a solution, but it is to move to a more liberal extreme position pandering to the far left elements of the party.  One of Obama's most disgusting plunges to far-left liberalism was to protect adults (non-parents) from talking minor children across state lines for abortions.  Other votes that rivals that in disgusting was Obama's efforts to force troop reductions and de-funding the war.  And surprise surprise, Obama did not support protecting the flag. 

Barack Huesein Obama's Voting Record (Project Vote Smart)

Harry M. Reid Voting Record (Project Vote Smart)

 

The Percent of time Senator Obama voted with Senator Reid.

Abortion 100%

Agriculture 100%

Appropriations 100%

Budget, Spending Taxes 92%

Business and Consumers 88%  - major difference was FISA, Alternative Energy Subsidies

Campaign Finance 100%

Civil Liberties 60% - major differences were FISA and Flag Desecration.  Obama voted NOT to protect the flag, and the vote failed the Senate by ONE vote.

Congressional and Legislative Affairs  89%

Crime Issues 100%

Defense 87% - Major difference, Obama was being more liberal than Reid, trying to surrender in Iraq by forcing troop reductions.  Cloture vote failed (7/18/2007).  Obama was also more liberal than Reid by trying to not fund the war.  Essentially, surrendering before the surge.

Education 100%

Employment and Affirmative Action 50% - Obama was being more liberal than Reid, trying to get an equal pay bill passed.

Energy Issues 82% - Major difference.  Obama voted AGAINST drilling in the Gulf

Environmental Issues 75%

Executive Branch  94%.  Just like Harry Reid, Obama voted against well qualified People such as Justice Alito, Justice Roberts, Justice Janice R. Brown, and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

Family and Children Issues 75%.  Obama was much more extreme than Reid.  Obama thinks it is OK for non-parents to take minor children across state lines for Abortions.  Absolutely disgusting.  Thankfully it passed even a liberal Senate, no thanks to Obama.

Federal, State, and Local Relations 100%

Foreign Affairs and Policy Issues 92%. Major difference, Obama was against emergency funding for things like the War on Terror and Katrina.

Gun Issues 66%.  Obama was even a bigger gun grabber than Reid.  Obama did not want to protect manufacturers against unreasonable lawsuits in which they were not negligent.

Health Issues 100%.

Immigration 88%.  Major differences, Obama voted to bring the widely unpopular Immigration Reform Bill to the floor.  Oddly, it was a bill Sponsored by Reid, but Reid voted against Cloture.  Obama was finally more conservative than Reid on ONE issue, supporting a fence.

Labor 89%.  Obama again being more liberal, trying to stop appropriations for the war on terror.  Oddly though, there was a provision in this bill which increases the federal minimum wage, so Obama voted against increasing the minimum wage. 

Legal Issues 92%.  The major difference here again was due to FISA.

Military Issues  89%.  Obama being more liberal than Reid by trying to force the bill on Troop Reductions to a vote and Obama opposing funding.

National Security Issues 95%.  This only difference was FISA.

Reproductive Issues 100%.

Science and Medical Research 100%.

Social Issues 100%.  Reid and Obama both voted against allowing a vote on a bill that would prohibit the recognition of same sex marriage.

Technology and Communications 75%.  FISA is only difference.

Trade Issues 67%.  Only difference, Obama supported fast track for free trade with Oman.  Must of been some Muslim thing.

Transportation Issues 100%.

Veterans Issues 100%.

Welfare and Poverty 100%.

OVERALL 90%*. 

*Note:  The Overall percent may be a bit more or less.  Vote Smart includes a few of the votes in multiple categories because the bill covered a wide variety of issues, so they are counted in multiple categories. It will take some time to go through and weed those out. But in many of cases, it was a bill that Obama and Reid disagreed with (Like FISA, troop reductions, and emergency spending), so the overall percentage could be understated a bit.  I will cross-correlate the votes if I have time tomorrow to verify the Overall percentage.

7 posted on 09/16/2008 6:16:28 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: TitansAFC

Get lost, Obama.


8 posted on 09/16/2008 6:17:08 AM PDT by popdonnelly (I'll tell you a little secret: we're smarter and more competent than the Left.)
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To: TitansAFC

What if you did, Barry ?


9 posted on 09/16/2008 6:17:40 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Always Right
I had one bad link...fixed.

Gun Issues 66%.  Obama was even a bigger gun grabber than Reid.  Obama did not want to protect manufacturers against unreasonable lawsuits in which they were not negligent.

10 posted on 09/16/2008 6:20:53 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: TitansAFC

Once again, it is just remarkable how inept the Republican leadership continues to be, that an election featuring this incredibly incompetent dolt, Barack Obama, is still a horse-race. First Gore, then Kerry, and now Obama, and we’re sweating out another close one. What a joke.


11 posted on 09/16/2008 6:21:37 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: TitansAFC
It sounds like he's pointing out to people that if they want to keep their guns, vote Republican. I hope this is an "Aha!" moment for some.
12 posted on 09/16/2008 6:23:58 AM PDT by stayathomemom ( nowanemptynester)
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To: TitansAFC

Interesting that someone they’re trying to pass off as some kind of scholar on Constitutional Law thinks all you need is a vote of Congress to start taking guns.


13 posted on 09/16/2008 6:24:48 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: TitansAFC

Sounds like his opinion on gas prices — he doesn’t mind that they go way up, just not so fast


14 posted on 09/16/2008 6:26:05 AM PDT by wilco200 (Typical White Person)
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To: TitansAFC
As a state legislator in Illinois, Obama supported banning the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic firearms, increasing state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms and requiring manufacturers to provide child-safety locks with firearms.

Obama supported a "ban" on the sale and possession of handguns on a political questionnaire.

In 1999, he urged for prohibiting the operation of any gun store within five miles of a school or park, which according to gun-rights advocates would eliminate gun stores from most of the inhabited portion of the United States.

Obama sponsored a bill in 2000 limiting handgun purchases to one per month.

As state senator, he voted against a 2004 measure that allowed self-defense as an affirmative defense to those charged with violating local laws making it otherwise unlawful for such persons to possess firearms.

Obama also voted against allowing persons who had obtained domestic violence protective orders to carry handguns for their protection.

From 1994 through 2002, Obama was a board member of the Joyce Foundation, which amongst other non-gun related activities provides funds for gun control organizations in the United States.

While in the US Senate, Obama has supported several gun control measures, including restricting the purchase of firearms at gun shows and the reauthorization of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban.

Obama voted against legislation protecting firearm manufacturers from certain liability suits, which gun-rights advocates say are designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.

Obama did vote in favor of the 2006 Vitter Amendment to prohibit the confiscation of lawful firearms during an emergency or major disaster, which passed 84-16.

During a February 15, 2008 press conference, Obama stated, "I think there is an individual right to bear arms, but it's subject to commonsense regulation."

Obama has also stated his opposition to allowing citizens to carry concealed firearms and supports a national law outlawing the practice. Obama is rated F by the National Rifle Association. The NRA describes the recipient of its F grade as a "true enemy of gun owners’ rights."

He is also rated F by Gun Owners of America who stated that Obama will "Get the Dems 'Barack' into the Business of Gun Control".

-Wiki

15 posted on 09/16/2008 6:27:18 AM PDT by Obadiah (I remember when the climate never changed, then Bush stole the election.)
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To: pissant
“Even if a president and Congress wanted to take your guns away, They could not. The 2nd Amendment is set in stone in our constitution”.

Let us NOT leave out the obvious....

The PEOPLE will not allow the "weasel prince" to take them away.... Doggoneit he is such a putz....

16 posted on 09/16/2008 6:27:36 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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Methinks that Obama doth protest too much. He's poison and he knows that many are wise to him, with that number growing every day.

If "Obeyme" gets elected, the 2nd amendment will be only one of many aspects of American Exceptionalism that will be forcibly degraded, at (ironically) gunpoint if necessary.

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17 posted on 09/16/2008 6:32:27 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Always Right

Obama is trying to “nuance” gun rights by location.

Thus if you live in “bitter land” you will be allowed to own hunting guns, but if you live close to smart people you will not be allowed ot own guns.


18 posted on 09/16/2008 6:34:51 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: TitansAFC

So I’ll just push to make owning ammo illegal. - Obama


19 posted on 09/16/2008 6:36:24 AM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: TitansAFC
Even if I wanted to take it away, I couldn’t get it done. I don’t have the votes in Congress."

Yehhhhh. That one takes more than votes in Congress, O-dense. [Weren't you a lecturer on Constitutional law?]

That one takes votes of the several States. It requires amending The Constitution -- assuming you want to do things legally -- and having the amendment ratified by the States.

from Wikipedia, regarding amendments to The Constitution:
Regardless of how the amendment is proposed, the amendment must be approved by three-fourths of states, a process called ratification.

20 posted on 09/16/2008 6:38:07 AM PDT by TomGuy
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