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BREAKING NEWS: No Indictment in Palin Hacking
American Spectator ^ | 09/23/08 | American Spectator

Posted on 09/23/2008 12:16:30 PM PDT by Artemis Webb

A federal grand jury in Chattanooga, Tenn., reportedly adjourned today without delivering an indictment in the hacking of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's personal e-mail account.

The grand jury heard testimony this morning from three friends of University of Tennessee student David Kernell, according to the Chattanooga Times-Free Press, but ended its session around noon without returning an indictment.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: activistcourts; cultureofcorruption; hacker; howtostealanelection; kernell; mccainpalin; misleading; palinattacks; palingate; palinping; watergate2; yahoo
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1 posted on 09/23/2008 12:16:30 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: Artemis Webb

How in the world did a grand jury get it this quickly, they just served the warrant on Monday, and generally, Grand Juries serve for a week or two at a time?

Something doesn’t smell right with this story.


2 posted on 09/23/2008 12:18:54 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Artemis Webb

I would hope this isn’t the end of this matter.


3 posted on 09/23/2008 12:19:06 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (What's "Price Gouging"? Should government force us to sell to the 15th highest bidder on eBay?)
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To: Artemis Webb
I hope nobody else posted this. It took about six minutes from the time I started it to the time FR finally completed cycling the post.
4 posted on 09/23/2008 12:19:33 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Sarah Palin: Babies, Guns, Jesus. HOT DAMN!)
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To: Artemis Webb

BS is right!


5 posted on 09/23/2008 12:19:40 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: Artemis Webb

Nothing will come of this, afterall, this crime was against a republican.


7 posted on 09/23/2008 12:20:46 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (Say what you feel, those who matter don't mind, those who mind don't matter.)
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To: Artemis Webb
The American Spectator's title isn't exactly accurate, it makes it seem there was a no bill, not the case. From the original article in the Chattanoogan:

An indictment in the case was not included in the first batch made public early Tuesday afternoon. Indictments are sometimes not made public for several days or weeks.

8 posted on 09/23/2008 12:21:59 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: ConservativeMind
I would hope this isn’t the end of this matter.

Far from it... the kid will now go on the talk show circuit to explain how evil Sarah uses Yahoo mail for official business and stuff like that. The kid's going to be well rewarded.

9 posted on 09/23/2008 12:23:01 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Artemis Webb
It is not over until it is over. "adjourned today" sounds like there will be further testimony. From the story,

"The Knoxville News-Sentinel reported that Kernell has retained the services of attorney Wade Davies, who issued a statement saying, "We are confident that the truth will emerge as we go through the process. David is a decent and intelligent young man, and I look forward to assisting him during this difficult period."

10 posted on 09/23/2008 12:25:09 PM PDT by kabar (.)
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To: Artemis Webb
It depends on what the word hacking means.


From a nation of laws to a nation of lawlessness.


The next few years should prove very interesting.

Lock & load.

11 posted on 09/23/2008 12:25:54 PM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Artemis Webb
I knew it!...the fix was in and DON'T be surprised if they HIT Palin with an OCT. Surprise with some of the info they raided from her emails. The ZERO camp has them in their hands as we speak!! Bank on it!
12 posted on 09/23/2008 12:26:54 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: mnehrling

Good find. Popcorn-gate.

No indictment.......yet.


13 posted on 09/23/2008 12:28:59 PM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: Artemis Webb
"but ended its session around noon without returning an indictment."

Session - I infer that there will be more though, I don't think the case is over without an indictment.

14 posted on 09/23/2008 12:29:01 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Artemis Webb
What the heck is going on with FR?

Don't they feed the gerbils?

15 posted on 09/23/2008 12:30:08 PM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Artemis Webb

Why does this not surprise me?


16 posted on 09/23/2008 12:30:27 PM PDT by Purrcival (Palin runs Alaska. Obama runs his mouth.)
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To: reagandemocrat

If I had to bet, they probably either didn’t even vote on it today or ‘passed’ it either to the next grand jury, on request of the DA because the investigation is ongoing) or simply to another day to hear more testimony. This all seems too fast.

Of course, there is always the option the DA has political motivation and rushed it in, put up a couple of character witnesses and recommended a ‘no bill’ to the grand jury.. I doubt the latter though as we would hear it was no billed.


17 posted on 09/23/2008 12:31:07 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Artemis Webb

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2087766/posts?page=24#24


18 posted on 09/23/2008 12:31:14 PM PDT by Cheerio
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To: Artemis Webb

What exactly is the charge?


19 posted on 09/23/2008 12:31:45 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
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To: All

Couldn’t the Secret Service get involved in this?


20 posted on 09/23/2008 12:32:30 PM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: Artemis Webb

Is a grand jury required to indict or is some prosecutor just covering his behind?


21 posted on 09/23/2008 12:33:01 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: kabar

Decent and intelligent young men do NOT do what David has done.


22 posted on 09/23/2008 12:33:23 PM PDT by kalee
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To: mnehrling
Think they left out....No idictment..."at this time"...

Today was just the beginning of testimony...

23 posted on 09/23/2008 12:33:49 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: Abathar

“I infer that there will be more though, ...”

That’s how I took it, too. No indictment YET. If they don’t indict, though, hold BOR back; he’s on a roll about this! Since a grand jury is made up of citizens, ya gotta hope they’ll see a slippery slope here for everyone if this little pissant gets away with it.


24 posted on 09/23/2008 12:33:56 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Election '08: God is in control.)
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To: Artemis Webb
If the District Attorney wants an indictment he will get an indictment. OTOH, if he doesn't want one then he won't get one. So we are in the same old political game that we are always in. If the wrong power-that-be picked the DA then we lose. If the good-guys picked the DA then we win. The speed with which they took this to a Grand Jury makes the whole thing look very suspicious to me. I mean what's the rush? Do they really have all the evidence in hand and organized? I really doubt it.

I'm not making any bets but I'm on record as predicting a slap on the hand and two weeks of public service. I hope I'm wrong.

25 posted on 09/23/2008 12:35:29 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Artemis Webb

If this is simply the unilateral act of a college kid, I don’t see the point of giving him a criminal record for a stupid stunt.


26 posted on 09/23/2008 12:35:30 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Artemis Webb

Did they adjourn or done? Change the venue to Alaska!


27 posted on 09/23/2008 12:36:35 PM PDT by hamboy
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To: Artemis Webb

No indictment yet, it should read.

If the jury didn’t return a No Bill, the matter is still in process.


28 posted on 09/23/2008 12:36:43 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: kabar

Thank you. “No indictment today” most likely means “no indictment yet.”


29 posted on 09/23/2008 12:39:45 PM PDT by LimberJim
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To: Artemis Webb
Break into a Watergate office to look for dirt on a Democrat, big problem. Break into a Yahoo email account to look for dirt on a Republican, blame the victim for not using better security.
30 posted on 09/23/2008 12:42:25 PM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: stinkerpot65

This is tantamount to driving up your street, taking everything out of your mailbox, and driving off. Then when the culprit gets home, he opens your mail and starts taking action based on the information he has obtained. Part of it was dialing your children’s cell phone.

This was not a harmless prank.

This kid should get the book thrown at him. If not, it’s open season on anyone on the right that the left wants to steal from and destroy.

What would your take be if some information had been outed that destroyed Palin’s viability as a candidate, even if it wasn’t even close to illegal? That very well could have happened here.

This little democrat operative should be toast.


31 posted on 09/23/2008 12:43:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac president... Obama the strychnine president...)
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To: stinkerpot65

If this is simply the unilateral act of a college kid,

Who hacked private email and made the email plus other personal information public. This is a felony, and if the guys at DU or KOS had YOUR personal communicatins, plus the guys at 4chan and Wowser or whatever it wass, you may feel differently.

You’d need new phone nos, passwords, cell phones, and other things.

It may have been a stupid stunt, but it’s as expensive and inconvenient as burning yuor car.


32 posted on 09/23/2008 12:44:26 PM PDT by Ender Wiggin
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To: LimberJim

Nothing to see here..It’as a Democrat no crime has been committed just another funny college boy prank...

Now if he had hacked Biden’s e-mail account they would have this punk off to Leavenworth by now.....If he had dared look at Obama’s he would be in an Electric Chair...


33 posted on 09/23/2008 12:45:06 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: Artemis Webb

I would still like to know if this punk can be pursued by the Palins in a civil suit?


34 posted on 09/23/2008 12:46:18 PM PDT by mrmargaritaville
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To: ConservativeMind
I would hope this isn’t the end of this matter.

What's one Grand Jury anyway? Hell, it took what 12, 14? before that clown in Austin got an indictment against Tom Delay.

35 posted on 09/23/2008 12:47:37 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
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To: Artemis Webb

No indictment....yet.


36 posted on 09/23/2008 12:48:24 PM PDT by Nachum (Sarah Palin: Baberaham Lincoln)
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To: stinkerpot65
If this is simply the unilateral act of a college kid, I don’t see the point of giving him a criminal record for a stupid stunt.

I am sure that under the provisions of sub, sub paragraph of the law, all criminal acts that are "unilateral acts" are exempt from any other provisions of the law.

After all, to make it a bi-lateral act, and thus become subject to the other provisions, Sara Palin would have had to specifically advise him of his rights before the "unilateral act" provision wouldn't apply.

37 posted on 09/23/2008 12:48:43 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: Artemis Webb
Said all along, no indictment until after Obama is elected. Then all charges will be dropped when Obama is sworn in and the RAT machine takes over the Government. All laws against all RATS will be dropped. The Gestapo will concentrate on all opposition. President Bush will be charged with war crimes. Exaggerated? Parts here already.
38 posted on 09/23/2008 12:49:48 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Artemis Webb
In Texas, and many other states, it is common for the prosecutor to take wait until a case is completely worked up, then take it to the Grand Jury, which either votes to indict (a True Bill), or to not indict (a No Bill).

In the Federal system, they do that too, but they also, far more often than in State Court, use the Grand Jury to futher the investigation. This kid's friends can tell the FBI or Secret Sevice to pound sand, and refuse to answer any question likely to inciminate their friend. They have to answer the questions of the Grand Jury (or the questions the Assistant US Attorney asks on behalf of the Grand Jury), or face going to jail for contempt.

No indictment after the first time a Federal Grand Jury hears from witnesses in a case is not news. An indictment would have been news, and widely condemned as a rush to judgment.

39 posted on 09/23/2008 12:49:48 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: stinkerpot65
Are you serious?

F'n with an national election, committing illegal acts, all for the purpose of destroying a candidate is not "criminal"?

Please tell me you are kidding.

40 posted on 09/23/2008 12:50:06 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
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To: Artemis Webb

I’m sure the FBI sprinkled their “magic dust” on the evidence and made it all go away.


41 posted on 09/23/2008 12:52:34 PM PDT by Niteranger68 (Before spending any of your hard earned money, ask yourself "Am I funding liberalism?")
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To: Artemis Webb

Knew the brat would get off.


42 posted on 09/23/2008 12:52:51 PM PDT by sauropod (There's no stoppin' the cretins from hoppin')
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To: G.Mason

There must be a Freepathon coming up.


43 posted on 09/23/2008 12:53:15 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Artemis Webb

It doesn’t say they no-billed it, it just says they adjourned for the day without returning a true bill of indictment. Need more info to get truly pissed.

Colonel, USAFR


44 posted on 09/23/2008 12:54:57 PM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: Artemis Webb
attorney Wade Davies, who issued a statement saying, "We are confident that the truth will emerge as we go through the process. David is a decent and intelligent young man, and I look forward to assisting him during this difficult period."

What is this truth and why is it so difficult to come clean with what happened?

45 posted on 09/23/2008 12:55:16 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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David is a decent and intelligent young man

If that's his lawyer's honest opinion, I think Rubico needs a smarter lawyer.

46 posted on 09/23/2008 12:55:29 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Artemis Webb

Forty posts on a grand-jury thread and not one instance of the phrase “ham sandwich”?


47 posted on 09/23/2008 12:56:04 PM PDT by Tenniel2 ("Socialism is the grandiose rationalization of petty resentments" -- von Mises)
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To: LibWhacker

I am just happy he is incurring legal fees. That’s punishment enough.


48 posted on 09/23/2008 12:58:07 PM PDT by kabar (.)
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To: Artemis Webb

49 posted on 09/23/2008 12:58:17 PM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: Niteranger68

It’s been over a week since the kid was outed on the web. Plenty of time to wipe his hard drive and clean the house of any incriminating evidence.


50 posted on 09/23/2008 12:58:18 PM PDT by Josh Painter ("I don't believe that people should be able to own guns." - Barack Obama)
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