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Legalizing undocumented immigrants pushed
Capitol Media Services ^ | 09/24/08 | Howard Fischer

Posted on 9/25/2008, 7:42:53 PM by machogirl

Local and national business groups are funding a media campaign launched Wednesday in Arizona to convince voters the United States has done enough to secure the border and now needs to legalize the 12 million or more undocumented immigrants and consider allowing more foreigners into this country.

The group, Mexicans and Americans Thinking Together, is going to spend “several hundred thousand dollars” on TV advertising in four states. Jim Pignatelli, president and chief executive officer of UniSource Energy Corp., the parent of Tucson Electric Power, said the time has come to move the debate along and find ways to help business get the workers they need.

And Pignatelli said the best place to start is with those already here.

“You can’t ignore 10 to 12 million people who are trying to make a living, who are undocumented,” he said. Pignatelli, who said he is interested in the issue from a personal perspective and not because of his role at Tucson Electric, said if they could somehow be deported “it would take years for another 10 to 12 million to come in” to fill the jobs they are doing now. “These people are providing valued services to the economy,” he said.

The commercial says there have been “incredible strides” made in border security, the number of deportations is up and there are stronger penalties against employers who hire undocumented workers. Glenn Hamer, president of the Arizona Chamber of Commerce and Industry, said that’s fine — as far as it goes.

“We need to finish the job on immigration reform at the federal level,” he said. Hamer said that means not just legalizing those already here but ensuring that employers can bring in more foreign workers.

“It is an extraordinary benefit, not a burden, that people from all over the world who are bright and hard working want to come to the United States, want to come to Arizona, improve their lives and improve the prosperity for all Americans,” he said.

But the effort to reshape the debate comes as many incumbent federal lawmakers and those hoping to unseat them in November are appealing to voters by promising to do more to staunch the flow of illegal immigrants into Arizona.

Even Sen. John McCain, who sponsored a comprehensive immigration reform bill last year that included a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, has backed away from his own plan.

“I get it,’’ McCain said last August, acknowledging the public wants more done to secure the borders before any talk of immigration reform. And McCain, in a televised debate, said he would not vote for his own legislation if it came back.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008; aliens; amnesty; arizona; business; elections; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; openborderslobby
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I'm speechless. These people that want to allow felonious behavior (fake documentation, fake ss#, id theft, fraud) a FREE PASS OUT OF PROSECUTION AND AS AN EXTRA, A SPEEDY PASS TO CITIZENSHIP.

I am more than disgusted.

1 posted on 9/25/2008, 7:42:54 PM by machogirl
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To: machogirl
Doesn't surprise me that business gets in bed with the multicultural Left to screw the country over. The Open Borders Lobby has proponents on both sides of the political aisle.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 9/25/2008, 7:45:52 PM by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: machogirl

Calling illegal aliens undocumented immigrants, is like calling drug dealers unlicensed pharmacists.


3 posted on 9/25/2008, 7:46:00 PM by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: machogirl

Let me know when McCain wants to stop the debates so he can deal with the Immigration crisis. Lol. Country First.


4 posted on 9/25/2008, 7:47:12 PM by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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To: machogirl

McCain gets nothing. He just not Obama. Pray for our republic. We are in deep doo doo.


5 posted on 9/25/2008, 7:47:47 PM by Sybeck1 (John McCain --- Balkanizing America with Conservative Votes......)
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To: BGHater
You know McShamnesty will do no such thing!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 9/25/2008, 7:48:03 PM by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Puppage

The east valley tribune and the republic most of the time have trouble calling an illegal immigrant or an “illegally documented” immigrant what they are.

could be that the trib fixed it for howie.


7 posted on 9/25/2008, 7:49:27 PM by machogirl
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


8 posted on 9/25/2008, 7:50:03 PM by gubamyster
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To: machogirl
“You can’t ignore 10 to 12 million people who are trying to make a living, who are undocumented,”

..you can't ignore?..our federal government just proved you could..they've done it for 20 years..IT IS HIGH TIME THEY AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU START LISTENING TO THE AMERICAN TAX PAYER AND CITIZEN...stop giving them jobs and they will go away on their own

9 posted on 9/25/2008, 7:51:12 PM by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: machogirl
the time has come to move the debate along and find ways to help business get the workers they need.

The greed in the business community is beyond belief.

What government in their right mind would watch, and encourage thousands of business to leave the country for low wage labor, while at the same time publicly encouraging low wage illegal aliens to flood the country by the millions?

This will eventually end in total, complete disaster for the American working class.

10 posted on 9/25/2008, 7:51:45 PM by dragnet2 (We are witnessing the biggest expansion of government in American history)
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To: goldstategop

Unemployment is high here. I know. I can’t find a job and I need one.

These businesses just want to dumb down wages and then expect the state to pick up the bill for: education, health care, increased crime, etc. *I call this TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION when we taxpayers have to foot the bill when some FEDERAL JUDGE tells us so.


11 posted on 9/25/2008, 7:52:02 PM by machogirl
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To: Sybeck1

I agree. It’s time for the glass or loaf of bread analogy when voting for Pres.

Do we want a big pile of poop, or half a pile?


12 posted on 9/25/2008, 7:53:12 PM by machogirl
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To: machogirl

First red flag....

“The United States has done enough to secure the border”.

They are trying to generalize and sweep what they haven’t done. As far as I can see, they are still coming across.


13 posted on 9/25/2008, 7:53:36 PM by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: machogirl

If Mexico is in the drug trade; why don’t they take care of their own people. They certainly can afford it.


14 posted on 9/25/2008, 7:55:06 PM by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Doogle

bingo

stopping those “illegally documented” from working will naturally stop the flow.

as an aside what these people should also be worried about is: IF GROUPS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS CAN SLIP ACROSS THE BORDER THAT EASILY, SO CAN TERRORISTS AND NUKES.....

They may not have any companies to run into the ground after they have run our country into the ground.


15 posted on 9/25/2008, 7:55:53 PM by machogirl
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To: Puppage

LOL


16 posted on 9/25/2008, 7:56:19 PM by machogirl
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To: ExTexasRedhead; goldstategop; EternalVigilance; kellynla; SandRat; SwinneySwitch; ...

“to convince voters the United States has done enough to secure the border”

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!


17 posted on 9/25/2008, 7:58:50 PM by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: machogirl

““You can’t ignore 10 to 12 million people ........, who are undocumented,” he said. Pignatelli,”

Why not??? The government has for 20 years.

DEPORT.


18 posted on 9/25/2008, 7:59:50 PM by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: dragnet2

I agree. It used to be 20 years ago or more, here in AZ and I’m sure across the country, that a blue-collar worker (trade worker) could earn a good living.

Not anymore. The “illegally documented, illegal aliens” have taken over the construction jobs, dumbing down wages. This has also happened in other trades. These companies turn a blind eye, hire, and them claim that they didn’t know.

We will end up just like Mexico, caused by our govt. and the mexican govt. There will be NO MIDDLE CLASS. Just rich elites and low income. That’s it.


19 posted on 9/25/2008, 8:00:05 PM by machogirl
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To: freekitty

They still are and so are the drug cartels doing hits.
No telling whom else and what else is also coming over. I’m sure those others don’t have “good intentions” and are “hard working, family oriented”.


20 posted on 9/25/2008, 8:02:15 PM by machogirl
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