Posted on 09/27/2008 9:28:30 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
Obama Offices Different, Separate and Apart From Democrat Party Offices Does Obama Campaign Not Trust the Democrats? Or is it the Clintons?
Will Election 2008 be remembered as the first contest between Republicans and Obamacratsor the first between the Obamacrats and the Democrats?
Senator Barack Obama is building a national organization separate and apart from the national Democrat Party apparatusat least in any state where the outcome of the November election is at all in doubt.
In state after state, the Obama campaign, in a break with tradition, has opened up its own officeswhich largely push Barack Obama, and only Obamaapart from the Democrat Partys own offices in those very same communities.
Obama has, literally, hundreds of these offices dotting the USA.
[ABOVE: Obama offices in Ohio--these are separate from local Democrat Party offices in the communities listed.]
In Ohio, seventy Obama Campaign for Change Regional Officesall of them separate and apart from the Democrat Party. In Pennsylvania, sixty-three Campaign for Change offices.
The list goes on: Virginia, over forty offices; Georgia, thirty-eight; North Carolina, thirty-six; Indiana, thirty-two; Colorado, thirty; Iowa, twenty-three; Minnesota, twelve; West Virginia, six.
In states where the outcome is already pretty much decided, Campaign for Change operates few offices: one in Texas and California, for example.
Does Obama Trust the Democrats? Do the Democrats Trust Obama?
The Campaign for Change offices push one product: Barack Obama.
In our weekend visit to Obama offices, we found that local and state Democrat candidates did have a presence at the Campaign for Change officesbut not much of one.
Almost all of the usual campaign giveaways were there: pencils, literature, stickers. They were all on a small table in the back of the room.
That small table represented all of the local, district and state Democrat candidatescombined. The rest of the spacious room was dedicated to Barack Obama. In almost every case, it was Obama without a meniton of running mate, Joe Biden.
The local Democrat campaign office, we were informed, was down the street, around the corner.
One of the offices visited last weekend was in Ohio.
A few months ago, after Ohio Governor Ted Strickland turned down the Obama veep invitation, Scared Monkeys noted the difficulties Obama was having getting moderates in the Democrat Party to get in line.
So much for gaining that candidate in an all important must win battle ground state like Ohio. There will be no Obama-Strickland ticket and Obamas chances of victory in Ohio just became more difficult. What is more interesting about this decision by Strickland is that he is a staunch Hillary Clinton supporter. What does that tell us about the Democratic party so-called coming together after the bitterly contested primary?
To add just a little bit more Democratic party unity, Democratic Representative Dan Boren of Oklahoma stated that Barack Obama is the most liberal senator in Congress and he has no intention of endorsing him for the White House. So much for support from moderate Democrats. As most had suspected, many moderate Dems find Obama to liberal to endorse.
The Obama campaign and supporters will likely dismiss the separate offices as smart thinking and targeting resources. But, each office sucks up resources: lease money, campaign materials and manpower. The Campaign for Change offices are staffed by volunteers, but a volunteer sitting behind a desk is a volunteer not knocking on doors.
In this way, the Obama campaign is sure of one thing: the volunteer on the phone in a Des Moines Campaign for Change office will be talking about Barack Obamanot the local Democrat candidate for County Commissioner.
The Obama campaign is apparently charging fellow Democrats for Obama campaign materials. At a Democrat-sponsored booth at an event in Wheeling WV, local Democratic candidates manning the location complained about this sign of Obamaization. The booth featured many local and state Democrat candidates, but not much Obama signage or literature.
We had to pay for them, a lady complained. They dont give us anything.
Even Obama supporters have to pay the campaign for everything in the offices. Al, who we spoke to at a local Obama campaign office, said he had to pay for the lease out of my own pocket. All of the t-shirts, button, stickers here, I paid for.
So, if Obama volunteers are paying the campaign for everything and picking up the tab for leases, isnt this just a smart move?
Each Campaign for Change office becomes a cash cow: it not only pays for itself, it sends money to the national Obama campaign for campaign materials.
And, the staff isnt wasting time contacting voters about the other Democrat candidates. At Campaign for Change, its All Obama, All of the Time.
Are there any other reasons why the Obama campaign built this network dedicated to the election of Barack Obama outside of normal Democrat Party channels?
The Specter of Hillary Clinton
The Obama campaign may have set up all of those separate officesin any state that might be the least bit in playbecause of the woman Obama beat in the Democrat primaries: Hillary Clinton.
A Campaign for Change office is an office beyond any possible control of Clintonistas.
Pssst Did you know Obama takes Lobbyist money, even though he claims he doesnt?
IMPLOSION Continues: Et tu, New Jersey?
Guess who says Obama has no plan? Harry Reid, Thats Who
The preceding headlines come from the front page of PUMA08.com. They help illustrate the rift between some supporters of Hillary Clinton and the candidate that they claim was selected, not elected to represent the Democrats in November.
An AP-Yahoo News poll claims that Democrats who backed Hillary Clinton in the primaries are still not warming up to Barack Obama. Fifty-eight percent of Clinton supporters now back Obama.
That was the same percentage who said they backed Obama in a June, when Clinton called it quits and the PUMA (Party Unity My Ass) movement was born.
The poll shows that while Obama has gained ground among Clintons supporters 69 percent view him favorably now, up 9 percentage points from June this has yet to translate into more of their support.
In part, this is because their positive views of Republican presidential nominee John McCain have also improved during this period. Those supporting McCain have also edged up from 21 percent to 28 percent, with the number of undecided staying constant, the survey showed.
Obama and many of his supporters havent warmed to the Clintons.
The Clintons, and many of their supporters, havent warmed to Obama.
Insight Analytical thinks Obama doesnt want Clinton Democrats and asks, Why?
Its 44 days until the General Election as I write this and after a long and hard fought primary season the Democratic Party, and the Obama campaign specifically, are still unable to get over their terminal case of CDS. I cant help but ask Why? For the uninitiated, CDS stands for Clinton Derangement Syndrome, usually defined as the uncontrollable impulse to rail against all things Clinton (Hillary, Bill, Chelsea, Hillarys supporters, and basically anything connected to centrist positions).
Team Obama not only masterminded the overthrow of the Democratic Party to form the New Democrats (remember the May 31, 2008 coup when all semblance of the rules were overthrown at a behind-closed-doors meeting of the Rules and Bylaws Committee), they literally declared the nomination belonged to Obama despite the fact that:
Hillary Clinton won more of the popular vote than Obama (when the Florida and Michigan primaries are included as originally voted) Automatic (also called Super) Delegates are unable to actually cast a vote until the national Convention Obama did not actually have enough Super Delegates locked in to declare himself the winner when he did Hillary Clinton didnt contest the illegal theft of earned delegates in Michigan, despite her legal right to do so
Bill Clinton was accused of having short coattails; of being Good for Bill Clinton, bad for Democrats.
Obama may turn out to have even shorter coattails. While Clinton campaigned for other Democratsa lotso far, Obama has campaigned for Obama.
One reason given for the recent outbreak of rumors concerning the dumping of Joe Biden from the ticket was the Obama only syndrome.
No Biden Rumor: No Obama-Biden Campaign Materials in Obama Offices
Will Bower, of PUMA08.com, isnt buying the Dump Biden rumors.
I believe that the Dump Biden rumor is exactly that a rumor.
Bower added that I dont believe that Hillary would encourage Obama to do such a thing at this juncture. It would only serve to make him (accurately) look weak and indecisive.
Will then directed us to the following video.
The View: Bill Clinton Pretends He Wants Obama To Win
Will Obama win using his national network of Campaign for Change offices, which are separate from the local Democrat Party?
Will Obama have any coattails, helping local Democrats to victory in close local races?
Does it matter?
After all, Barack Obamawho may be described as having been in perpetual campaign modeis building his own network of volunteers, fund-raising and organization. Its a network beholden to no one outside of the Obama campaign.
In case of an Obama win, its a network thats already in place and can be expanded upon in 2012 for a re-election run.
In case of an Obama loss, its a network already in place that can be expanded upon in 2012 for another run against all comersRepublican or Democrat. The Clintons were accused of being only for the Clintons, but even they did not build a network of separate campaign officesthey worked within the framework already established by the Democrats.
Will the Obama organization supersede the Democratic Party? Or will the Clintons and their supporters be able to circumvent this looming obstacle?
2008 may be remembered as the beginning of a battle in which John McCain was only one opponent among many.
by Mondo
bttt
Please ping your lists and ping other lists, this is frightening.
Pray for our nation.
Yes. I wonder what would happen if he has to come clean about the details of his birth? I woulewd not be surprised that he will act indignant, will go off on his own, and start a new party and run against the Dems and the GOP.
Could we be witnessing a coup de tat in the Democrat Party by authentic socialists? Obama has made significant advances toward establishing a viable “renegade wing”, solely headed by himself (or acting as the figurehead, as he already is as a candidate), and solely funded by wealthy, leftist industrialists, organizations, and individuals, ie: Soros, MoveOn, and the Hollywood left. His powerful network of operations in battleground states, working apart from the DNC, is a display of how advanced and organized he and his machine is becoming.
Just who would reign in a socialist Obama administration? He cut his political teeth on Daly’s Democrat Party Machine in Chicago. His close ties to the Daly machine, which groomed him for the presidency through the party’s ranks of the community activist system (ACORN) gives you the answer. He has close ties to associates such as William Ayers and other factions, such as those who subscribe to the Marxist Black Liberation Theology, just to name a few.
Would the establishment moderates at the DNC have the clout or the wherewithall to regain control from Obama’s hands to withstand a coup? Think about where the DNC now gets its funding. These contributors would surely threaten to dry up the flow of money to the DNC, should they go against the socialist Obama. Remember, also, Obama reneged on his pledge to take federal funding when he realized he could rake in a substantially greater amount of money through private donations. That says a lot about how the Democrat party might be transformed should Obama win this election.
The gangs would be Obama's personal police. Much like Africa. We see that with Odinga. Whom Obama endorsed.
And if you have an independent Obama office in your town. Go watch who goes in and out. I see it in mine.
Barack Obama and his cousin Raila Odinga. Odinga and Obama are from the same Kenyan Luo tribe. Odinga supporters are the people that are burning Christians alive, trapped inside churches! Most of Odinga's fanatical followers are radical Islamists who have pushed for Islamic Sharia Law, total banning of other religions and closing of co-ed schools, night clubs and public dressing style considered immoral. Odinga was educated in Former Soviet controlled East Germany and maintains a strong loyalty to the vision of his Educators and has allied with Islamist in order to gain their political support.
In 2006 Obama took a trip to Kenya and voiced his support for his fellow tribesman and political ally, Odinga. Obama also directly attacked the sitting Kenyan leadership (Kibaki) calling them corrupt (Kenya was one of the most stable places in Africa).
Odinga is the man that ran on the socialist democrat ticket in Kenya and lost to sitting president Kibaki.
Its not getting reported in the media that the looting and burning of businesses in Kisumu was targeted to both Kikuyus and Kenyan Indians. The economy of Kenya is controlled by these two groups because they are Entrepreneurial. But Kenyan Indians rarely get involved in Kenyan politics, they do not vote by choice, yet the Luos in Kisumu do not like them, thats why their stores were getting burnt too.
A Tribe of 540,000 Kikuyu, rivals of the Luo for Power, all but vanishes from Kenyan City ethnically cleansed and massacred by Odingas butchers.
In the December elections in Kenya, violence broke out as Raila lost. The cause of the violence was Odingas inflammatory comments about the election: When Raila Odinga lost the presidential election (12/27) to Mwai Kibaki, he claimed the vote was rigged, whereupon his tribal followers went on murderous rampages such as in the town of Eldoret, where on New Years Day dozens of people were burned to death in a church set on fire. Throughout Kenya, hundreds of people have been politically murdered in the last few days.
Bishop Cornelius Korir of Eldoret confirms the killings were organized and planned. It is believed Odinga and his ODM Pentagon members had planned it all, long before elections, and especially William Ruto the MP for Eldoret North (the burning of women and children in a church).
He is tearing through the country using murder and rape as his weapons of choice. Justice Minister Martha Karua said. Odingas group (Orange Democratic Movement has planned to carry out systematic ethnic cleansing. This is a dangerous man in what has up until now been a pretty stable country on an unstable continent.
The Orange Democratic Movement is opposed to democracy and free elections. Refusing to accept the result of the national election, Odinga will break the country, beat, cleanse rape until this depraved savage gets the power. Raila Odinga rejected a presidential invitation for talks.
Abongo Roy Obama is a Luo activist and a militant Muslim who argues that the black man must liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture. He urges his younger brother, Barack Hussein Obama to embrace his African heritage.
The way Barack Obama describes his oldest half-brother in his book, Abongo (Roy) Obama inherited their fathers hard-drinking ways but straightened his life out by embracing Islam and his African heritage.
Abongo Obama began using his Luo tribal first name and had sworn off pork, smoking and drinking by the time of his younger brothers 1992 wedding. Abongos new lifestyle has left him lean and clear-eyed, and at the wedding, he looked so dignified in his black African gown with white trim and matching cap that some of our guests mistook him for my father, Obama wrote (Dreams From My Father).
In the latest development in the deepening ties between Obamas pal Odinga (ODM party) and the Islamists. Obamas cousin the ruthless violent Raila Odinga now nominated the radical Sheikh he signed the Islamic Memoradum Of Understanding with as a Member of Parliament (MP)
The Media presents Odinga and his supporters in such a way that they look like angels even as they kill people.
More brutal and gory details of the man Obama unequivocally supports. This is more than bad judgment, this is scary. Odingas has nefarious Arab ties and his hand in the ongoing violence that has all of Kenya in its barbaric clutches. Inconceivable horror. Gang rapings, murders and thats just the tip of the iceberg.
Obama has backed Odinga unequivocally going so far as telling big media (TIME Magazines Joe Klein), Obama has had near-daily conversations with the U.S. Ambassador in Kenya or with opposition leader Raila Odinga.
From Obama/RICO thread:
>>>obamao scares me.
>>>if elected, wed have a chavez or putin government.
I believe we would have an Odinga government (see above).
P I N G
This is creepy.
American Mugabe
I, (name), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
They don’t even realize....
Very creepy.
Late, late Ping. Thanks to all.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2092187/posts?page=55#55
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2092187/posts?page=39#39
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2092187/posts?page=46#46
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2092187/posts?page=48#48
Just who would reign in a socialist Obama administration?
***Make no mistake: Free Republic would be among the very first targets of the Obamessiah’s wrath.
Thanks for the ping LucyT
You’re very welcome, Irish Eyes.
Bump Dat...
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