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Obama Violated The Logan Act: Why Hasn't He Been Charged?

Posted on 10/03/2008 12:57:46 PM PDT by BIOCHEMKY

Obama Violated The Logan Act: Why Hasn't He Been Charged?

The Logan Act (18 U.S.C.A. § 953 [1948]) is a single federal statute making it a crime for a citizen to confer with foreign governments against the interests of the United States. Specifically, it prohibits citizens from negotiating with other nations on behalf of the United States without authorization (

The Logan Act reads as follows:

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

Kuwait (July 18, 2008) Obama called off a meeting with wounded troops at a military hospital after the Pentagon told him that the trip might run afoul of a policy against visiting soldiers in the course of campaigning.

Afghanistan (July 20, 2008) U.S. Sen. Obama met with Afghan President Hamid Karzai and Obama reiterated his call for additional U.S. forces to deal with conditions in that he described as "precarious and urgent”. Obama spent time talking to U.S. military and diplomatic leadership, and to the leaders of Afghanistan, about whether the U.S. has the right strategy and the right resources to defeat the Taliban and al Qaeda, and to support lasting stability. The message from Obama to the Afghan government is this: we want a strong partnership based on "more for more" - more resources from the United States and NATO, and more action from the Afghan government to improve the lives of the Afghan people.

Anbar Province, Western Iraq (July 21, 2008) U.S. Sen. Obama held talks with Sunni tribal leaders and stated, “There is security progress, but now we need a political solution” and he repeated his goal of withdrawing US combat troops from Iraq within 16 months should he become president.

Ramadi, Iraq (July 21, 2008) U.S. Sen. Obama met with militiamen of the US-backed Awakening Councils movement - a tribal alliance whose members turned against al-Qaeda last year. Ahmed Abu Risha, head of the Awakening Councils, said tribal chiefs told Mr Obama that any withdrawal of US forces from Anbar should be carried out cautiously.

Baghdad, Iraq (July 21, 2008) U.S. Sen. met with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki who told Obama that he hoped US troops could be withdrawn from Iraq by 2010. Republican presidential nominee, Sen. John McCain, said that Obama was "completely wrong" to press for withdrawal timetables. Sen. McCain stated "When you win wars, troops come home”. (Sept. 2008) The New York Post has Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, on record, stating Barack Obama tried to interfere with ongoing negotiations with Iraqi leaders while on his trip to Iraq recently. While telling his supporters his plan to withdraw troops from Iraq within 16 months, Barack Obama was doing something far different while he was in Iraq. He was trying to talk Iraqi officials into delaying the agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence from Iraq, Zebari said in an interview with the New York Post. According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July. "He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington”.

Why would Obama do such a thing?

Because in order for him to have any type of credibility he needed to convince Americans that things were still going badly in Iraq.

(Oct 2, 2008) Iraqi leaders are hoping Barack Obama wins the White House and speeds up the withdrawal of American troops from their country.

Obama’s high-profile July visit to Baghdad appears to have won over top Iraqis, including Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, and the premier subsequently began demanding a time-table for US forces to leave Iraq.

Amman, Jordan (July 22, 2008) U.S. Sen. Obama met with Jordan’s King Abdullah

Tel Aviv, Israel U.S. Sen. Obama held talks with Israeli leaders U.S. Sen. Obama held talks with Palestinian leaders

Britain (July 2008) Quote from British prime Minister, Gordon Brown: "The decision on the American election is a matter entirely for the American people and I have ….met with ….Senator Obama and talked to [him] about the issue that affect our two countries and the future of global issues."

France (July 25, 2008) U.S. Sen. Obama held a joint news conference with French President Nicolas Sarkozy (whose country holds the European Union presidency) at the Elysée Palace in Paris.

Berlin, Germany (July 2008) U.S. Sen. Obama drew huge crowds in Berlin where he addressed them, oddly enough, as "fellow citizens of the world." Obama went on to state, “People of Berlin – people of the world – this is our moment. This is our time. ... With an eye toward the future, with resolve in our hearts, let us remember this history, and answer our destiny, and remake the world once again."

“The depth of Obama’s emotional investment in his vision of unification is unknowable. What does seem clear, however, is that although he tends to speak about problems in terms of impersonal forces, he [Obama] takes himself seriously as an agent and facilitator of change. If the change he believes in does not happen as easily or as quickly as he thinks it should, Obama might well interpret the obstacles in his path as personal affronts and greet them with anger, as he apparently became angry at his one-time mentor Jeremiah Wright only after the pastor called into question Obama’s claim to be a different kind of politician.” (“Honor versus Unity” by Lawrence D. Cooper, Oct. 2, 2008,

Why Obama Can't Be President October 03, 2008 02:27 PM EDT Rush Limbaugh Radio Show Transcript

RUSH: I'd like to say something to you Democrats and independents who have not yet made up your minds (and I know that you are out there) especially those of you who are leaning toward Obama. I want to ask you a question. I want you to ask yourselves a simple question. Apart from wanting a new party in place -- apart from wanting a fresh face in the White House, apart from wanting somebody you think speaks well -- you need to take deep, deep, deep look inside yourselves and ask this: "What exactly has Obama ever done in his life? What has he done as a state senator, what has he done as a United States senator, that proves leadership? Why is it that Joe Biden has been rejected time and again in the Democrat primaries, receiving less than 1% in the Iowa caucuses? What suddenly makes either of these men leaders? What suddenly makes them qualified? Simply because Obama got the nomination and he chose Biden?" When you examine Obama's career, you basically see two things, and only two things. You see a man (a man-child) who has spent his life both as a college and law student and as an adult, working hand-in-hand with domestic terrorists.

Now, I know you know this, and I know you want to sweep it under the rug because I know you just don't want to believe it, even though you know it. But do you not think that this is truly extraordinary? William Ayers and others from the Weather Underground are responsible for being a part of a terrorist wave in this country that murdered police officers. To downplay this or dismiss it as "guilt by association" is to be shortsighted and make a mistake. I don't believe most Democrats or independents find this kind of thing acceptable behavior. What kind of man sits in the pews of a church where his preacher spews hate about his own country -- hate for Jews, hate for whites, hate for blacks who don't agree with him -- and then says he had no idea his preacher was saying any of these things? Again, I ask you to look deep inside yourselves, ask yourselves if you see such a man representing your country as president of the United States.

RUSH: You see, folks, the Obama campaign has done a wonderful job (they really have) of silencing and intimidating anybody who dares to speak these things. His radicalness, the associations he has with fellow radicals. Again, what kind of man sits in the pews of a church where the preacher spews hate about his own country, hate for the Jews, hate for whites, hate for blacks who don't agree with him -- and then says he has no idea what his preacher is saying? Any of these things. You have gotta look deep inside yourselves, especially if you're a Democrat or independent, ask yourselves if you really see such a man representing your country as president. They've done a great job of silencing anybody and intimidating people who dare to speak these things.

They have directed the media to attack those of us who have raised these hugely important facts. They call us McCarthyites. But you know this is nonsense, you moderate Democrats, independents. We choose our friends. We choose our associates. We choose our churches. We choose our pastors. This is a matter of Obama's free will and voluntary association. Obama's campaign and the media have done a terrific job of trying to take a radical and persuade you that he is a mainstream, centrist Democrat. He is no such thing. He's part of the old guard, the socialist left, the appeasement left. There's nothing new, there's nothing fresh about anything to do with Obama. Radicalism comes dressed in many ways. This time it's dressed up as Barack Obama, and he's doing his best to hide who he really is from you as all extreme leftist radicals do.

Obama does not represent moderate or conservative Democrats. He makes fun of them! He laughs at them. He condescends to you. You moderate and conservative Democrats, he was talking about you when he talked about the bitter clingers at the San Francisco fundraiser. He does not represent Reagan Democrats. I would dare say he doesn't actually even represent FDR-type liberals. He goes it Europe and he dumps on his own country. He gives speech after speech tearing down all that has been built in this nation by our parents and our grandparents. He constantly criticizes the things that have made this country great. He arrogantly insists that despite his lack of success anywhere in the private sector or even as a state senator or US senator, that he possesses all the wisdom necessary to manage the entire economy, to determine how much each of us should make, how much each of us should give up to people who he decides deserve more.

There's nothing new about this, there's nothing hopeful about it, and it is not change that we want or need. It is change, though. Obama wants to change the American system for another system, a system that is foreign to you and me but which has been talked about and written about for 150 years. It's promoted in colleges and universities among far-left professors. It has been pounded into Obama's head by the likes of Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright his entire adult life. If somebody tells you, for example, they want the federal government to take over the health care system lock, stock, and barrel, what do you call that? If somebody tells you they want the federal government to run the human resources departments of every private entity in this country, deciding who should get paid what and what benefits they should receive, what do you call that? If somebody says, "We need to raise taxes on pensioners by increasing the capital gains tax when they sell their equities," what do we call this? When someone says that we need to increase taxes on anyone who earns $42,000 or more, what do we call that? When somebody says that we need to increase taxes on every small business in the country that makes $250,000 a year, what do we call that? Well, I'll tell you what Obama calls it. He calls it middle class tax relief. It is nothing of the sort. Obama intends no tax relief for anybody. This, ladies and gentlemen, is the agenda of a person who has never had a real job in this country, much less ever run a business, much less ever made a payroll. He has never held a real job in this country.

By that I mean one that requires you to get up every morning, go to work, make a profit for yourself or for your employer. He has been paid by foundations and the taxpayer most of his life to promote a socialist agenda that will destroy everything that you have worked for and your parents and their parents worked for. He's out to destroy it. Let me put it this way. How smart...? All of the people who think this guy is brilliant because of the way he speaks, could you snap out of that for a second? I understand the idea that you want to be proud of the president, you want people around the world to be proud, and you think a bumbling, stumbling, stuttering president embarrasses you. Get past that. You're looking at a bumbling, stumbling, embarrassing guy, if he gets anywhere near the Oval Office.

How smart do you have to be to raise taxes and spend other people's money? That's what we're talking about here. How smart do you have to be? This is a man, Barack Obama, who has authored a bill (one of the few, by the way) that would require you, the hard-working people of this country, to pony up $85 billion per year to give to other countries to fight global poverty through the United Nations! In other words, he would take the New Deal and the Great Society and export them to the Third World where you will be responsible for paying for it. Does this sound like a moderate or a centrist Democrat to you? Does it sound like a centrist independent moderate anything to you? These debates are all well and good, folks, but the truth is we know all we need to know about Obama, do we not?

I would ask those of you who have served in the military or are serving in the military, "Can you name anything -- anything -- Obama has done prior to running for president to show his support for you? Did he speak to veterans groups? Did he do interviews with veteran and military-related media? Did he visit military hospitals and shake hands with the wounded?" No. In Berlin, he specifically canceled such things. What's he done for you? What's he done for you? He hasn't done anything for you. What he has done is impugn you. What he has done is impugn your mission. What he has done is attempt to block your success on the battlefield and around the world. This man, Barack Obama, was invested -- along with Harry Reid and Dick Durbin -- in the defeat of the United States and the United States Military.

He believes, along with his brother from Illinois, Senator Durbin, that American interrogators and soldiers are no different than Pol Pot's thugs, the people that ran the Soviet gulags, and Nazi commandants. Durbin said it while they were attempting to secure defeat in the Iraq war. Barack Obama believes the same things. He didn't start wearing the American flag lapel pin until a few months ago, and he didn't start putting his hand over his heart during the National Anthem until a few months ago. Did he support the surge in Iraq? No. Did he vote to fund the troops, to send them the armor and the bullets and reinforcement they needed while they were on the battlefield? No. He spoke out against it, all of it! Once again, Obama's frame of reference is the far left.

He spent his years in Chicago working with radical, pro-Palestinian elements, although today he says he's pro-Israel. But again, where's the evidence for this? There is none. Our allies have much to fear in an Obama presidency. Our enemies have nothing to fear. Yet the Drive-By Media continually tell us that polls they take of citizens of the world, desperately want Barack Obama. Nobody who understands what's at stake -- nobody who has taken the time to delve into who Obama is -- wants him anywhere near the presidency of the United States, except our enemies. Let me be blunt about this. Not only is the appeasement left in Europe thrilled about the prospect of an Obama presidency, but so, too, are our enemies. Our enemies tremble at the thought of a McCain-Palin victory. Our enemies will celebrate an Obama-Biden win. Our enemies parrot Democrat Party talking points.

Obama says that we wouldn't have the financial crisis if we had saved all this money by not going to Iraq. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the supreme leader, president of Iran, says the same thing. The Iranians will immediately send Obama an invitation to meet with them because they heard what he said about no preconditions, and Obama will go, as a citizen of the world, to show that his presence on the scene can make a big difference. Just as Neville Chamberlain went back in the 1930s to meet with Hitler, Obama will also declare some kind of diplomatic victory just as Chamberlain did in the thirties. And Iran will take it all to mean that they can act with impunity and Obama won't do a thing about it -- and they're right, he won't. What do you think the little democrat countries around Russia think about this election? What do you think they're hoping? Who do you think they hope will win? Obama's first words after Russia invaded Georgia, was to urge both sides to stand down! Let me tell you: Vladimir Putin is wetting his pants in excitement over the prospects of an Obama presidency. So, too, are the ChiComs. So, too, is Hugo Chavez. So, too, is Raul Castro. So, too, is Kim Jong Il.

TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; crime; iraq; logan; missinglink; obama; obamavisit; treason

1 posted on 10/03/2008 12:57:47 PM PDT by BIOCHEMKY
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Because NOBODY has been charged with violating the Logan Act since 1803.

2 posted on 10/03/2008 12:58:57 PM PDT by r9etb
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We can’t even get John McCain to “name names” in the current financial meltdown, even though it means telling the American people the truth, even though it means saving his sinking campaign.

And you think THIS is going to fly.

Dream on.

3 posted on 10/03/2008 1:00:46 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman


4 posted on 10/03/2008 1:02:18 PM PDT by unojook
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To: r9etb

If the incumbent POTUS had a (D) after his name and the challenger had an (R), you could be fairly sure that Logan Act charges would be forthcoming for said challenger.

5 posted on 10/03/2008 1:02:39 PM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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wouldn’t pelosi come under the logan act also for her unauthorized trip to the middle east...??

6 posted on 10/03/2008 1:03:59 PM PDT by tatsinfla
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Liberals don’t violate any law the recreate the law to suit their needs. That is Progressivism my friend and you better get used to it cause we are all about to do our time on the Plantation of Barak and Michelle Obama....

7 posted on 10/03/2008 1:04:02 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (The Republican Party has given up its shot at the 08 Presidency. All hail OBAMA.)
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I wish Sarah had hit him with a treason charge during the debate. Not enough time for everything she could have nailed them with.

8 posted on 10/03/2008 1:09:52 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (NOBAMA - it is for our future)
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To: Typical_Whitey

You have to admit that Rush did a fair job of trying to get the sheeple’s attention [concerning the dangers of Obama] in today’s broadcast, don’t you think?

9 posted on 10/03/2008 1:10:58 PM PDT by BIOCHEMKY (I love liberty more than I hate war.)
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Because the powerful can do any damned thing they want.

10 posted on 10/03/2008 1:17:43 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat. And so is Obama.)
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Because he’s not a US citizen.

11 posted on 10/03/2008 1:20:06 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgement to the very first radical ...known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom - Lucifer. - Saul Alinsky, Rules for Radicals, p. ix, Random House, New York, 1971
12 posted on 10/03/2008 1:20:46 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Exactly! The country our Founders fought to give us is nothing more than a distant memory. It is gone.

And after what congress and bush have foisted upon us today I don’t think it is too far fetched to say that we have just witnessed a coup where what little vestiges of power we the people had was officially destroyed. Now, do you really think that any member of our House of Lords will ever be held accountable for their actions? Logan Act? That only applies to the commoners.

13 posted on 10/03/2008 1:22:54 PM PDT by frankiep (Every socialist is a disguised dictator - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Because he’s not a US citizen.

Better be careful, though, Hillarys Gate Cult.

Come next January 20, after MyFriendsMcCain hands the election on a silver platter to the commies and the muzzies, this kind of post could get you some long hard jail-time.

14 posted on 10/03/2008 1:38:25 PM PDT by samtheman
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"a single federal statute making it a crime for a citizen to confer with foreign governments against the interests of the United States. Specifically, it prohibits citizens from negotiating with other nations on behalf of the United States without authorization "

Just about covers Jimmy Carter's career.

15 posted on 10/03/2008 1:44:31 PM PDT by TPOOH (I wish I could have been Jerry Reed.)
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Socialist George Bush doesn’t want to offend Socialist Obama

He calls it compassionate socialism. But if the O was a conservative border agent, tjen look out.

16 posted on 10/03/2008 6:15:12 PM PDT by stockpirate (Welcome to the United Socialist States of America- Vote for Palin, save our country)
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