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Is it time to think the unthinkable?
10/04/2008 | PhilosopherStones

Posted on 10/04/2008 12:50:01 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Make no mistake; we stand at the precipice of the greatest threat to the continued existence of our Republic since the Civil War. And no, I'm not talking about the financial crisis. We have reached a point where roughly half of Americans want us to lose a war, to remove the security methods that help keep us safe, to lay down before tyrants who wish to harm us, to stifle dissent and free speech, to remove our personal means of self-defense, to take away our choices in the things which concern ourselves and our families most.

Let us set aside for a moment the fact that the Obamassiah is unqualified, that he consorts with known terrorists, that he is the most Liberal candidate ever to win his party's nomination for President. No, let's concentrate on his supporters since without them, he'd still be organizing communities in Chicago.

His supporters attempt to stifle free speech by inundating phone lines whenever a radio talk show host attempts to discuss His Oiliness in other than laudatory terms. They file lawsuits against 527s who dare produce truthful ads about him. They shout down Conservatives on college campuses. They flood state electoral commissions with bogus voter registration forms hoping that some will get through by sheer numbers or by state corruption. In the dark of night, they vandalize the property of Conservatives, from slashing car tires to trashing campaign offices. They saturate the airwaves and media with vicious libels about Sarah Palin and her family.

Let's face it, his supporters don't want a President; they want a benevolent (to them) Dictator who will right all wrongs, soak the rich, lower the waters and heal the planet.

But don't believe me, here is one in his own words:

It's time to state something that we've felt for a long time but have been too polite to say out loud: Liberals, progressives, and Democrats do not live in a country that stretches from the Atlantic to the Pacific, from Canada to Mexico. We live on a chain of islands. We are citizens of the Urban Archipelago, the United Cities of America.

Citizens of the Urban Archipelago reject heartland "values" like xenophobia, sexism, racism, and homophobia, as well as the more intolerant strains of Christianity that have taken root in this country. And we are the real Americans. They--rural, red-state voters, the denizens of the exurbs--are not real Americans. They are rubes, fools, and hate-mongers.

We're everywhere any sane person wants to be. Let them have the sh**holes, the Oklahomas, Wyomings, and Alabamas. We'll take Manhattan.

Seattle PI

So what can we do? Let's start by looking at who we are, and what resources we have available to us. Here's the electoral college vote by county from 2004. The Seattle moonbat was right: they live in little urban islands while we are free to sail the vast and productive red-county ocean.

They produce little, if anything, that we need. We produce everything that they need.

Somebody should do something
Earlier this year, I was at Happy Hour talking to my buddy who's a maintenance foreman at a North Bay sewage treatment plant. The Bay Area had just suffered through nine straight days of torrential rains, and the treatment plant, designed to process a maximum of 3.2 million gallons of water per hour was inundated with over 25 million gallons per hour. The choice was simple: let some of the water through into the Bay, or have sewage back up into the streets and houses of North Bay residents. A young lady of the typical San Francisco Liberal variety, overhearing our conversation said: “I can't believe you just dumped untreated sewage into the Bay!” I, ever helpful, suggested to the young lady that the next time we had nine straight days of torrential rains she could do her part by not pooping and not flushing. She was not amused: “Well somebody should've done something!”

When someone says “Somebody should do something”, we know exactly who they're talking about; they're talking about us. We are the ones who can design, build and run sewage treatment plants. We're the ones who can design, build and run ocean oil drilling platforms and combine harvesters and nuclear power plants.

We are the ones who mine the bauxite and process the aluminum for the tubes of their eco-friendly bicycles. We're the ones who research, design and build the solar panels and solar cells of their eco-friendly homes. We're the ones who research, design and build the batteries for their Priuses. We're the ones who coordinate the actions of thousands of producers around the world to build the computers from which they spew their poison.

They are the ones who would sit for a week in a sewage filled cesspool of an indoor stadium waiting for someone else to help rather than self-organizing to help themselves.

They are the ones who believe in their innate superiority because they can quote passages from James Joyce verbatim but who couldn't tune a carburetor or frame a house if their life depended on it.

They produce marketing plans and advertising slogans and video games and rap music and “cutting edge” web graphics and opaque financial instruments.

They produce nothing but words. The only power they have is the power of their speech. But their speech only has power if it causes us to act the way they want us to, and to continue to produce the goods for them that they need to survive. The time has come for us to stop our ears, to stop believing that they are well intentioned but naïve. They are not. They know precisely what they are doing, and hope fervently that we never figure that out.

They are like petulant teen-agers who whine about our rules and values while consuming the food, energy, clothing and other necessities that we provide. It's time for a grounding, a time-out, or even a spanking to make them appreciate that as long as they live in our house, they live by our rules.

We have seen once again with the bailout that DC has no problem taking the fruits of our productive labor and transferring them to the unproductive, the illegals, the liars and the slothful. This is how politicians remain in power.

It is time to say “Enough!”

As has been proved again and again whenever the power goes out at night in a major US city, the veneer of urban civility is shown to be only a couple of photons thick. So let us refuse to maintain their electrical power grid which is all that stands between a city of brotherly love and a city of unbrotherly anarchy.

Let us find other markets than the Urban Archipelago for our food. Let us refuse to repair their bridges and roadways. Let us reduce our dependence on foreign energy by keeping red state energy to ourselves: Alaskan and Texan and Gulf oil and gas. Coloradan oil shale, Montana oil fields. Let the cities give their money to the Sheiks and the Chavezes. It's what they want and what they deserve.

Liberals need Conservatives; Conservatives do not need Liberals.
We can grow our own food, butcher our own meat, drill our own oil, build our own houses and yes, even make our own coffee.

Let them eke out a precarious living taking in each others advertising jingles and high-priced, pseudo-Italian named cappuccinos.

So what would we lose by letting the Urban Archipelago go its own way?

Seattle? Redmond hasn't delivered an operating system or piece of software in more than a decade that his actually lived up to its hype.

Silicon Valley? Once the motor of the Information Revolution, now reduced to developing and trying to peddle clones of YouTube and MySpace, or ridiculously priced personal electronics robed in translucent white plastic.

LA? The porn capital of the world.

Detroit? We build better cars in Kentucky and Tennessee and (soon) Indiana.

NY? DC? Let them eat cake. But let's see how they do that when we're no longer around to harvest the eggs, grow the wheat, mill the flour, and process the sugar beets and cane that they need to bake it.

Let them have Whole Foods, we'll keep Wal-Mart and Piggly Wiggly. Let them keep their Starbucks and Barnes and Nobles and Abercrombie & Fitch. We'll keep the granges and the tack 'n' feeds and the grain silos and the cattle ranches and the Caterpiller and Peterbilt factories.

Let's see how long they can survive without the food we provide, without the goods we transport, without the raw materials that we mine, ore and process, without the power that we produce and maintain.

They keep threatening to move to Canada, though they never do. Why don't we just give them to Canada, lock, stock and barrel (or, since they don't like guns, “lox, Crate and Barrel”).

It's time to take back the power that we give them and which they use to enslave us. Time to take back the guns that we lend them and which they point at our heads.

We don't need them, and it's time they found that out.


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To: PhilosopherStones

Great article...this says it all “Liberals need Conservatives; Conservatives do not need Liberals.”


41 posted on 10/04/2008 1:32:16 PM PDT by RC2
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To: PhilosopherStones
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42 posted on 10/04/2008 1:34:46 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: PhilosopherStones

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43 posted on 10/04/2008 1:36:18 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: TrevorSnowsrap

Yes, which is why I began be stating explicitly that Obambi is not the problem. He’s just the symptom. The problem is the people who support him and others like him.

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until a majority of voters discover that they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury.” - Alexander Tyler

I believe that we have reached that tipping point.


44 posted on 10/04/2008 1:36:34 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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To: PhilosopherStones

An astute student of history and human nature, Thomas Jefferson, predicted what we see happening here in America. As ambassador in France, he witnessed the run up to the FIRST socialist/communist revolution there. He penned the following observations concerning what would happen HERE should that socialism come to the United States. He CORRECTLY predicted that we would become an increasingly contentious and litigious people as we shouldered one another out of the way to get OURS from the public trough and the trough would soon be empty.

He also knew where the bulk of the problem would originate.

That whirring noise you may hear coming from that mountain in Charlottesville, Virginia is Mr. Jefferson getting up to around 3600 RPM.

(A 6 minute video with this information may be seen at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypLu49pq3bI)

“The mobs of the great cities add just so much to the support of pure government as sores do to the strength of the human body. It is the manners and spirit of a people which preserve a republic in vigor. A degeneracy in these is a canker which soon eats to the heart of its laws and constitution.” —Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XIX, 1782. ME 2:230

“I think our governments will remain virtuous for many centuries as long as they are chiefly agricultural; and this will be as long as there shall be vacant lands in any part of America. When they get piled upon one another in large cities as in Europe, they will become corrupt as in Europe.” —Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1787. Papers 12:442

“I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health and the liberties of man. True, they nourish some of the elegant arts; but the useful ones can thrive elsewhere; and less perfection in the others, with more health, virtue and freedom, would be my choice.” —Thomas Jefferson to Benjamin Rush, 1800. ME 10:173

“Our cities... exhibit specimens of London only; our country is a different nation.” —Thomas Jefferson to Andre de Daschkoff, 1809. ME 12:304

“Everyone, by his property or by his satisfactory situation, is interested in the support of law and order. And such men may safely and advantageously reserve to themselves a wholesome control over their public affairs and a degree of freedom which, in the hands of the canaille of the cities of Europe, would be instantly perverted to the demolition and destruction of everything public and private.” —Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1813. ME 13:401

“An insurrection... of science, talents, and courage, against rank and birth... has failed in its first effort, because the mobs of the cities, the instrument used for its accomplishment, debased by ignorance, poverty, and vice, could not be restrained to rational action. But the world will recover from the panic of this first catastrophe.” —Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1813. ME 13:402

“I fear nothing for our liberty from the assaults of force; but I have seen and felt much, and fear more from English books, English prejudices, English manners, and the apes, the dupes, and designs among our professional crafts. When I look around me for security against these seductions, I find it in the wide spread of our agricultural citizens, in their unsophisticated minds, their independence and their power, if called on, to crush the Humists of our cities, and to maintain the principles which severed us from England.” —Thomas Jefferson to Horatio G. Spafford, 1814. ME 14:120


45 posted on 10/04/2008 1:39:04 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: PhilosopherStones

““A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until a majority of voters discover that they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury.” - Alexander Tyler”

Fairly ironic since we see the exact *opposite* happening. The majority of voters seemed to be *against* the $700 (800) billion bailout but they have been ignored, as they have been ignored on so many other issues.

The system we have is based on representatives. The people are generally powerless.


46 posted on 10/04/2008 1:43:00 PM PDT by TrevorSnowsrap
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To: PhilosopherStones

Very interesting reading. Were you by chance Ayn Rand in a previous life?


47 posted on 10/04/2008 1:45:38 PM PDT by LakeLady (I was my mama's October surprise!!!! /Defeat Nobama /Bidet)
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To: PhilosopherStones

I am guessing you ARE advocating the spanking of the spoiled left and their metromentality.
Should, God forbid, the O become president, a spanking will be in order.


48 posted on 10/04/2008 1:48:56 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: palmer

A task left for better minds than mine.

But yes, something along those lines.

We need to bank in the overwhelming majority of regional banks which are not in any trouble because they didn’t get caught up playing with the big city boys.

We need to try to keep our produce and our products in our own regions. That may mean taking a financial hit iin the short run, but nothing like the one we are about to take with the bailout rape.

We need to weed the moonbats (and ourselves) off of what Sarah called the “Opium” - Other People’s Money.

We need to demand not just cash in exchange for value, but value in exchange for value. We currently exchange our labor for cash from moonbat land. In return, they offer us nothing but trash for the dollars we wish to spend. It’s a losing battle in the culture war.


49 posted on 10/04/2008 1:49:07 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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To: TrevorSnowsrap

“The system we have is based on representatives. The people are generally powerless.”

I would respectfully argue that our representatives are, unfortunately, precisely representative. The people chose to elect Nancy Pelosi, the impeached judge Alcyee Hastings, the manslaughterer Kennedy, the corrupt Dodd and Byrd, the pedophile Franks. And they stand ready now to elect the Chosen One, His Oiliness, the Obamassiah.

It’s not that our representatives have betrayed us, it is that half of our population betrays us each time they vote.


50 posted on 10/04/2008 1:54:55 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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To: PhilosopherStones
you are so right...

One man, one vote has done us in, just like Tytler said.

As for me, I'm about finished with my life here on Earth...but I admonish my children and grandchildren every day to become warriors.

If God turns away, and Obama is elected with a friendly congress, the slide will start in earnest.

I'm voting for Sarah...

51 posted on 10/04/2008 1:57:32 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty (I am not ....him!)
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To: PhilosopherStones

First the red states secede from the blue states, and then we’ll see who else volunteers to join us, and whether we’ll accept them.


52 posted on 10/04/2008 1:58:50 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Obama can act presidential. McCain should be President.)
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To: PhilosopherStones

Sent to everyone in my address book.


53 posted on 10/04/2008 2:02:15 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Sarah: "It was so sparkling it was almost mesmerizing. " Rich Lowry)
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To: PhilosopherStones
Got rid of my TV almost 10 years ago and I try to ignore any ads thrown my way. When I buy music, it is used CD's at the flea market for a buck. My local mechanics and I keep my beater car running.

On the other hand, I have a big mortgage with Citibank. I work in the blue zone for a blue zone company. Most of my friends live in the blue zone and despite my attempts to wean them away, they are thoroughly entangled in blue zone ideas.

54 posted on 10/04/2008 2:08:12 PM PDT by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: AZLiberty

Even the blue states are mostly red outside the metro areas.

Just here on the left coast, the California inland valley, Eastern Oregon and Eastern Washington are VERY red (just ask Jim Robinson).

How ‘bout we get all the red counties to secede. And then we impose a “naval” blockade on the “islands” of the Urban Archipelago. See how long they last before capitulating. After all, it’s not like the British or the Prussians can come to their aid these days!


55 posted on 10/04/2008 2:11:47 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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To: palmer

Know what you mean. I live just south of San Francisco. Waiting for my daughter to grow up and go away to college so I can move to Wyoming or Montana or Eastern OR or Idaho (not that I’m in a hurry, she’s already growing up too fast!)


56 posted on 10/04/2008 2:13:56 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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To: PhilosopherStones

You missed the main point of the problem.

The parasite requires a host.

Welcome to the new world order.

You should just post the document that our founding fathers gave us to reference in just this type of situation. It is the Bill of Rights.

The Communists just took over our finance industry, the worlds largest insurance company and the two largest mortgage lenders.

Unless we the People stop this now we are doomed to generations of slavery.

Who is John Galt?


57 posted on 10/04/2008 2:14:16 PM PDT by stockpirate (Welcome to the United Socialist States of America- Vote for Palin, save our country)
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To: PhilosopherStones

Dear Sarah,

It’s obvious that your partner is not going to go after this guy...And let’s face it... this is your shining moment, as I doubt you’ll ever resurface if your team loses...

So, please. Please for all of us here at FR who have pulled our hairs out, agoninizing over McCain’s passivity.

GO AFTER THESE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ask him about his foreign donors...his ties to radicals...his plan to increase our taxes...his association with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac...

Have someone ask you if you use an ear piece during debates. And then answer that you don’t, but you know that it’s used and you see nothing against it...

Tell the media about Obama’s tax returns...where he’s heavily invested in Oil companies who do business in Iran...

Have someone ask you about Obama’s birth certificate...PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And say that you’re SURE that the FBI has vetted ALL the candidates....

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE....!!!

If you’re in this to win...then let’s win...

nikos


58 posted on 10/04/2008 2:18:15 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Obama-Biden Where's the beef?)
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To: PhilosopherStones
"We have reached a point where roughly half of Americans want us to lose a war, to remove the security methods that help keep us safe,..."

If you want to win a war, that has to be done more with soldiers than detectives, "private eyes" and other fantasies "as seen on TV." Focusing on and demoralizing Americans is not the answer.

We must not indulge in dramatic entertainment to evade fear. We have to prepare for a big fight and go through with it. IMO, both political parties operate from chicken coops.

Let's get the motivated and knowledgeable infantry commanders back in charge--not commanders of various kinds of sea and air artillery--and prepare to win the war. Or take cover, as the consequences are on the way.


59 posted on 10/04/2008 2:18:27 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: PhilosopherStones

I’ve long thought that our system of states should evolve into a system of states and city-states. For instance, it makes no sense for ultra-liberal western Washington (about 1/4 of the land area) and conservative eastern Washington to be in the same state. Western Washington should consist of the city-stage of Seattle, and eastern should be the one called “Washington”.

/pipe dream


60 posted on 10/04/2008 2:18:44 PM PDT by poindexter
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