Posted on 10/04/2008 12:50:01 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
Make no mistake; we stand at the precipice of the greatest threat to the continued existence of our Republic since the Civil War. And no, I'm not talking about the financial crisis. We have reached a point where roughly half of Americans want us to lose a war, to remove the security methods that help keep us safe, to lay down before tyrants who wish to harm us, to stifle dissent and free speech, to remove our personal means of self-defense, to take away our choices in the things which concern ourselves and our families most.
Let us set aside for a moment the fact that the Obamassiah is unqualified, that he consorts with known terrorists, that he is the most Liberal candidate ever to win his party's nomination for President. No, let's concentrate on his supporters since without them, he'd still be organizing communities in Chicago.
His supporters attempt to stifle free speech by inundating phone lines whenever a radio talk show host attempts to discuss His Oiliness in other than laudatory terms. They file lawsuits against 527s who dare produce truthful ads about him. They shout down Conservatives on college campuses. They flood state electoral commissions with bogus voter registration forms hoping that some will get through by sheer numbers or by state corruption. In the dark of night, they vandalize the property of Conservatives, from slashing car tires to trashing campaign offices. They saturate the airwaves and media with vicious libels about Sarah Palin and her family.
Let's face it, his supporters don't want a President; they want a benevolent (to them) Dictator who will right all wrongs, soak the rich, lower the waters and heal the planet.
But don't believe me, here is one in his own words:
It's time to state something that we've felt for a long time but have been too polite to say out loud: Liberals, progressives, and Democrats do not live in a country that stretches from the Atlantic to the Pacific, from Canada to Mexico. We live on a chain of islands. We are citizens of the Urban Archipelago, the United Cities of America.
Citizens of the Urban Archipelago reject heartland "values" like xenophobia, sexism, racism, and homophobia, as well as the more intolerant strains of Christianity that have taken root in this country. And we are the real Americans. They--rural, red-state voters, the denizens of the exurbs--are not real Americans. They are rubes, fools, and hate-mongers.
We're everywhere any sane person wants to be. Let them have the sh**holes, the Oklahomas, Wyomings, and Alabamas. We'll take Manhattan.
So what can we do? Let's start by looking at who we are, and what resources we have available to us. Here's the electoral college vote by county from 2004. The Seattle moonbat was right: they live in little urban islands while we are free to sail the vast and productive red-county ocean.
They produce little, if anything, that we need. We produce everything that they need.
Somebody should do something
Earlier this year, I was at Happy Hour talking to my buddy who's a maintenance foreman at a North Bay sewage treatment plant. The Bay Area had just suffered through nine straight days of torrential rains, and the treatment plant, designed to process a maximum of 3.2 million gallons of water per hour was inundated with over 25 million gallons per hour. The choice was simple: let some of the water through into the Bay, or have sewage back up into the streets and houses of North Bay residents. A young lady of the typical San Francisco Liberal variety, overhearing our conversation said: “I can't believe you just dumped untreated sewage into the Bay!” I, ever helpful, suggested to the young lady that the next time we had nine straight days of torrential rains she could do her part by not pooping and not flushing. She was not amused: “Well somebody should've done something!”
When someone says “Somebody should do something”, we know exactly who they're talking about; they're talking about us. We are the ones who can design, build and run sewage treatment plants. We're the ones who can design, build and run ocean oil drilling platforms and combine harvesters and nuclear power plants.
We are the ones who mine the bauxite and process the aluminum for the tubes of their eco-friendly bicycles. We're the ones who research, design and build the solar panels and solar cells of their eco-friendly homes. We're the ones who research, design and build the batteries for their Priuses. We're the ones who coordinate the actions of thousands of producers around the world to build the computers from which they spew their poison.
They are the ones who would sit for a week in a sewage filled cesspool of an indoor stadium waiting for someone else to help rather than self-organizing to help themselves.
They are the ones who believe in their innate superiority because they can quote passages from James Joyce verbatim but who couldn't tune a carburetor or frame a house if their life depended on it.
They produce marketing plans and advertising slogans and video games and rap music and “cutting edge” web graphics and opaque financial instruments.
They produce nothing but words. The only power they have is the power of their speech. But their speech only has power if it causes us to act the way they want us to, and to continue to produce the goods for them that they need to survive. The time has come for us to stop our ears, to stop believing that they are well intentioned but naïve. They are not. They know precisely what they are doing, and hope fervently that we never figure that out.
They are like petulant teen-agers who whine about our rules and values while consuming the food, energy, clothing and other necessities that we provide. It's time for a grounding, a time-out, or even a spanking to make them appreciate that as long as they live in our house, they live by our rules.
We have seen once again with the bailout that DC has no problem taking the fruits of our productive labor and transferring them to the unproductive, the illegals, the liars and the slothful. This is how politicians remain in power.
It is time to say “Enough!”
As has been proved again and again whenever the power goes out at night in a major US city, the veneer of urban civility is shown to be only a couple of photons thick. So let us refuse to maintain their electrical power grid which is all that stands between a city of brotherly love and a city of unbrotherly anarchy.
Let us find other markets than the Urban Archipelago for our food. Let us refuse to repair their bridges and roadways. Let us reduce our dependence on foreign energy by keeping red state energy to ourselves: Alaskan and Texan and Gulf oil and gas. Coloradan oil shale, Montana oil fields. Let the cities give their money to the Sheiks and the Chavezes. It's what they want and what they deserve.
Liberals need Conservatives; Conservatives do not need Liberals.
We can grow our own food, butcher our own meat, drill our own oil, build our own houses and yes, even make our own coffee.
Let them eke out a precarious living taking in each others advertising jingles and high-priced, pseudo-Italian named cappuccinos.
So what would we lose by letting the Urban Archipelago go its own way?
Seattle? Redmond hasn't delivered an operating system or piece of software in more than a decade that his actually lived up to its hype.
Silicon Valley? Once the motor of the Information Revolution, now reduced to developing and trying to peddle clones of YouTube and MySpace, or ridiculously priced personal electronics robed in translucent white plastic.
LA? The porn capital of the world.
Detroit? We build better cars in Kentucky and Tennessee and (soon) Indiana.
NY? DC? Let them eat cake. But let's see how they do that when we're no longer around to harvest the eggs, grow the wheat, mill the flour, and process the sugar beets and cane that they need to bake it.
Let them have Whole Foods, we'll keep Wal-Mart and Piggly Wiggly. Let them keep their Starbucks and Barnes and Nobles and Abercrombie & Fitch. We'll keep the granges and the tack 'n' feeds and the grain silos and the cattle ranches and the Caterpiller and Peterbilt factories.
Let's see how long they can survive without the food we provide, without the goods we transport, without the raw materials that we mine, ore and process, without the power that we produce and maintain.
They keep threatening to move to Canada, though they never do. Why don't we just give them to Canada, lock, stock and barrel (or, since they don't like guns, “lox, Crate and Barrel”).
It's time to take back the power that we give them and which they use to enslave us. Time to take back the guns that we lend them and which they point at our heads.
We don't need them, and it's time they found that out.
“The parasite requires a host.”
That WAS the point of the post. We are the host, they are the parasites. It’s time to shake them off like the fleas that they are. And yes, I was serious about the nature of the current crisis we face.
This is slightly misleading. I thought that this was a quote from Obama because of the line:
But don’t believe me, here is one in his own words:
But it appears to not be “in his own words” as far as I can see this is in the words of the person writing the article.
Is this correct? Important because sometimes we send stuff off to our friends. We don’t want to be saying, “See, Obama said this stuff” and then be shown to be wrong. It hurts the credibility of the next thing we try to say.
The “one” in that sentence referred back to “his supporters”, not back to Obama.
I posted the link so people could check.
We should always check original sources where possible before we start sending things out.
wink, wink ; )
The operative part of the quotation you included is "a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation," or that rules of civility oblige you (the separatist) to justify why the "dissolution of political bands" ought to occur. Your post, although written with language mellifluous to FReepers, does not contain this central thesis and has more to do with chest-thumping than reason.
Reading your post, I have to surmise that you want blue areas on your map to be separate from the red ones because:
Your post also claims that conservatives produce all of life's necessities while liberals merely live off the fruits of your labor. This positions you as having a superiority complex. Isn't this exactly what you accuse the liberals of doing to you ("innate superiority")? Furthermore, do they steal the fruits of your labor from you---or do they purchase it on the market? Also, I would invite you to research the flow of tax dollars in this country. In general, the blue states receive less (federal) tax-spending than they pay in tax, and red states receive more than they paid in. That is, the blue states fund the red states. They may need you alright, but you need them too. Who's going to buy all the food you produce and sell when all the liberal consumers are gone?
Furthermore, showing some "decent respect of the opinions of mankind" might include you not lumping all liberals in with cappuccino-drinking, eco-bicycle-riding human waste pumps and not lumping in all conservatives with farmers, miners and utility employees (who are often unionized). Americans pride themselves on being individuals. Stereotyping everyone by their caricatures makes for a disrespectful showing indeed.
If you feel that "We don't need them, and it's time they found that out," then perhaps you should begin by telling them with a logical argument.
You don't need to anyway. If America keeps on going down the path it's on now it will fall. The first cracks have already appeared. We cannot have a country as split up and dis-unified like it is now and expect to ward off the threats that America is facing. Hell, all our enemies have to do is wait us out.
Works for me. We should not give them one red cent and America should be reserved for those who pay their own way; not leach off of the rest of those of us who produce.
“If you feel that “We don’t need them, and it’s time they found that out,” then perhaps you should begin by telling them with a logical argument.”
You can not reason someone out of a position that they did not reason themselves into in the first place.
No one need advocate violence. The point is well made that maybe the time has come for the producers of goods to keep the goods to themselves and let the producers of services see how far they get with no goods. Perhaps we should start cooperatives where we trade among ourselves and let the cities rot. Keep the oil and gas in Texas and Alaska; keep the corn and wheat in Nebraska and Kansas, etc. As far as that little plane company in Seattle, try eating a plane. There is nothing that compels we sell our food or energy to anyone - so let’s show them an education in real world politics - completely without any violence.
I don’t happen to think that violence is necessary.
Something popped into my head while reading your post.
There was a story from a year or so back concerning some moonbat town in Vermont, I think, that circulated it’s own barter bucks. You could use them anywhere that would accept them in that town. Farmers at the farmer’s market would take them and could spend them at the local barbershop or hardware store or restaurants. They in turn would use them to buy from the farmers markets, etc. Of course, being lefties, they would never be prosecuted for violating Federal currency statutes that way we would if we tried a conservative version of that.
But why not? I figure at this point, anything is worth a try.
If Iran acquires nuclear weapons technology and subsequently delivers it to the terrorists, where will they choose to detonate their device? Wichita, Cheyenne, or Lubbock? Of course not.
They will select a target-rich environment like NYC, Washington D.C., San Francisco, etc. Such events will naturally reset the urban-rural landscape.
Yes, but who will have to come and bail out San Francisco after a dirty bomb? Who will have to come and evacuate all the idiots who are too stupid to leave by themselves? Who will have to clean up the radioactive waste?
We will, as long as they are still part of America.
I say we dump ‘em before hand and let them evacuate their own danged selves.
That’s a good point, but I’m not thinking that terrorists will be happy with merely a dirty bomb. It’s kind of like the anthrax let-down after 9/11.
Terrorists desire a more dramatic effect. I think they will be wanting a thermonuclear device, and I am willing to bet it will be multiple detonations at the same time. Something that kills lots of people really fast.
Yes, we’ll still have to go and clean it up, but at least the opposition will have substantially fewer numbers than it did before.
“Yes, we’ll still have to go and clean it up, but at least the opposition will have substantially fewer numbers than it did before.”
Ooh! Ooh! Can’t let the moonbats know how “intolerant” we are!
Oh wait. That was before we understood how psychopathically violent they are (or would be if they weren’t such cowards or if they had the force of the Federal Gov’t on their side).
Yup. I've tried to make similar points.
I ask them, all these "no blood for oil" types, to look around their home, apartment, their car, any man-made object, and try to find one thing that doesn't have something to do with oil, fossil fuel, nuclear power. Just one thing. Good luck.
They reap all the benefits, while they rail against the benefits.
Mindless hypocrisy.
"Pull out now!"
What are the consequences for that?
Iran wants to establish a Sharia Caliphate. They are backed with arms and technology by Russia.
Russia wants a warm-water port.
So, what are the consequences of "Pull out now!"
Russia has Western Europe addicted to their natural gas pipeline.
Wouldn't they like to control the Middle East, for further blackmail threats?
You think $4.00/gallon is expensive? How about $8.00? How much is enough?
"No drilling! No nuke plants! No coal plants!"
They want all their conveniences, but they don't want the products that supply it.
Ahhh, well, ... remember reading about that military unit, if memory serves correctly, the 3rd Infantry's 1st BCT, which, according to the Army Times, is being reassigned to NorthCom? You are looking at NorthCom when you look out your living room window. The article says that its' successor will likely be made permanent. Very effective way of keeping TX and AK oil, and NE and KS wheat flowing to those blue islands.
Think it isn't possible? I am writing from an Idaho county that was under Martial Law for several months late in 1892.
“I remember a year or so back the libtards over at the DU proposed a war against the red counties. It was kinda funny how clueless they were about what they would face from the natural world let alone the angry armed conservatives.”
The buzzards will gorge on dead libs if they try it.
Well, personally, I’m not being ‘intolerant’ —just ‘indifferent’.
When it rained concrete and steel on lower Manhattan that one fateful day, I stood shoulder-to-shoulder with my countrymen. Then one day as we were slogging through the nightmare, I looked up and realized that my countrymen went back home without bothering to tell me. It was a rather rude awakening to realize I was all alone.
Since that day, I have decided to let those ‘countrymen’ fend for themselves.
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