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You Guys Are Nuts (Face it, McCain is Toast)
http://www.nationalreview.com/ ^ | October 07, 2008 | Andy McCarthy

Posted on 10/07/2008 8:31:10 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45

You Guys Are Nuts [Andy McCarthy]

We have a disaster here — which is what you should expect when you delegate a non-conservative to make the conservative (nay, the American) case. We can parse it eight ways to Sunday, but I think the commentary is missing the big picture.

Here's what Obama needed to do tonight: Convince the country that he was an utterly safe, conventional, centrist politician who may have leftward leanings but will do the right thing when the crunch comes.

Now, as the night went along, did you get the impression that Obama comes from the radical Left? Did you sense that he funded Leftist causes to the tune of tens of millions of dollars? Would you have guessed that he's pals with a guy who brags about bombing the Pentagon? Would you have guessed that he helped underwrite raging anti-Semites? Would you come away thinking, "Gee, he's proposing to transfer nearly a trillion dollars of wealth to third-world dictators through the UN"?

Nope. McCain didn't want to go there. So Obama comes off as just your average Center-Left politician. Gonna raise your taxes a little, gonna negotiate reasonably with America's enemies; gonna rely on our very talented federal courts to fight terrorists and solve most of America's problems; gonna legalize millions of hard-working illegal immigrants.

McCain? He comes off as Center-Right .. or maybe Center-Left ... but, either way, deeply respectful of Obama despite their policy quibbles.

Great. Memo to McCain Campaign: Someone is either a terrorist sympathizer or he isn't; someone is either disqualified as a terrorist sympathizer or he's qualified for public office. You helped portray Obama as a clealy qualified presidential candidate who would fight terrorists.

If that's what the public thinks, good luck trying to win this thing.

With due respect, I think tonight was a disaster for our side. I'm dumbfounded that no one else seems to think so. Obama did everything he needed to do, McCain did nothing he needed to do. What am I missing


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KEYWORDS: 2008debates; andrewmccarthy; mccain; obama; rino
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To: word_warrior_bob
I don’t care, this kind of whining is ridiculous, self-absorbed and counter productive.

It's beyond f*cking pathetic, and it's getting ready to drive me from this board again. At least for awhile. These people have the stench of loser on them when they post. Sorry, but that's the way I see it. The posters who do this need to go write in their damn diary, start their own blog, or seek therapy. There is not one reasonable thing about claiming McCain lost tonight, and it's all finished for us. At worst, it was a tie, and the debate format was kind of lame. It's hardly anything to get ballistic about.

And the poll threads are the same way. WTF is all the doom. McCain loses? Oh well..I'll get the hell over it and work for more conservatives in congress for 2010. What else can we do? Some people THRIVE on this cynical depressing shit. Ain't for me, dude.

121 posted on 10/07/2008 8:57:17 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Boagenes

You’re another constant whiner, you also do a great impression of an enemy agent. Your act has grown tiresome.


122 posted on 10/07/2008 8:57:27 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: ConservativeMind

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MTQ4OWJjZTNmODMwNzhlMzA2MzZhYzJmYWM2NjBkYzI=


123 posted on 10/07/2008 8:57:33 PM PDT by Perdogg (Vice President Sarah H Palin - Make it happen !!!!)
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To: nhwingut

Exactly! There is something to that old saying “People remember the Last thing you say or do” I think tactically
it is imperative the last debate Mccain unleashes political blitzkrieg on Obama. I think the Obama campaign is scared to death and tonite breathed a big sigh of relief. Mccain is holding his cards wisely. Still I think Obama was on his heels tonite. I still cant believe he did not say he would repsond to an invasion of Israel without UN approval. That will come up and IMO will Hurt Obama tremendously.


124 posted on 10/07/2008 8:57:50 PM PDT by jimmur281974 (No Way! No How! NOBAMA)
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To: VanDeKoik

**Never believe that just because you think you are a conservative means you are automatically made of stronger stuff than a liberal.

As you can see on FR these days, that is the far from the truth.**

Very well said. THANK YOU!


126 posted on 10/07/2008 8:57:52 PM PDT by RBMP85 (Previously known as ReaganAndDubyaForever)
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To: bubbrubb

Format sucked for gloves off. Obama would have had to really walked into something for McCain to really punch him. Otherwise McCain would have come off as going off on a tangent just to abuse.

Again IMO format sucked. Brokow sucked. Damn undecided (my ass) questions sucked.

Basically 90 minutes of Obama/McCain talking points.


127 posted on 10/07/2008 8:57:52 PM PDT by Caper29
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To: Para-Ord.45
McCain may be. But is Sarah?

He's just another bum Senator.

I'm voting for her.

128 posted on 10/07/2008 8:57:56 PM PDT by onedoug ( Barracuda!)
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To: Marie2; All

“I heard him say we shouldn’t take our kid to the ER for an asthma attack.”

I don’t think that is accurate. What I thought I heard him say is that people should not HAVE to take their kid to the ER for an asthma attack [because they should have regular insurance coverage that would enable them to have a doctor of their own].

I missed the part about fining if you don’t insure your emplyees. Can you give me more details?


129 posted on 10/07/2008 9:00:08 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: snarkytart

I agree, this board is getting infested with trolls, agents provacateur, or just plain whinging losers, it’s hard to tell the difference. I may take that break too, and leave them to stew in their own misery (or agitation, whichever).


130 posted on 10/07/2008 9:00:26 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: Aria

Let ‘em try.

Why are WE afraid to fight back with ACORN prosecutions and harassment?

I’m so sick of this “high road” crap some of you believe in.

To get the rat, you have to go down into his hole after him.

Pious platitudes will not save the nation from this dangerous radical Muzzie.


131 posted on 10/07/2008 9:01:01 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.")
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To: Marie2
I heard him say we shouldn’t take our kid to the ER for an asthma attack.

If you can move the ILLEGALS (you are paying for) out of the way your kid MIGHT get to see a doctor too if you go to the emergency room. But, of course, your kid (as an American citizen) gets no preferential treatment because the hospital staff can't ask if the ILLEGAL is illegal.

And while you are asked for a cash payment for the remainder of the bill your insurance doesn't pay the ILLEGAL will just give the hospital a bogus address/or welfare card and never pay a cent.

Thanks, TAXPAYERS, you SUCKERS!

Now, just imagine OBAMA'S policy of EVERY CHILD WILL BE INSURED! I didn't hear a distinction of whether that included ILLEGALS which I'm sure it does since we already 'owe' them an free education!

Start hiding what little money you have and/or can find if you don't want to be taxed out of oblivion!

132 posted on 10/07/2008 9:01:39 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Prole

Agreed.Dont you just love Sarah?


133 posted on 10/07/2008 9:01:41 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Para-Ord.45; All

I agree for the most part with the OP.
McCain looked old and tired, stammered, and again let opportunities get away to hit Obama where it hurts.

Obama looked confident and sure of himself. His line of BS and lies were smoothly delivered with a minumum of stuttering. Dumb a$$ America, fresh from their sitcoms and six paks probably ate it all up- none the wiser.

REMIND McCAIN THAT HE HAS AN OBLIGATION AS OUR CANDIDATE TO FIGHT BACK!

To h*ll with bipartisian BS!
To h*ll with PC!
To h*ll with ‘conducting a respectful campaign’as McCain has said, and vowed to do.

RESPECTFUL CAMPAIGNING WENT STRAIGHT OUT THE WINDOW WITH OBAMA’S NASTY, BRUTAL COMMENTS SUCH AS;
‘lipstick on a pig’ and ‘You can wrap AN OLD FISH in a piece of paper called change. It’s still going to stink after eight years.’

Take off the gloves, McCain!

Hit the Marxist/Muslim hard with Ayers, Acorn, Violation of Logan Act, abortion, 2nd admendment, Campaigning for Odinga!!

FReep ‘EM!!!!
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FReep THE MSM!

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Obama went to Kenya on our tax dollar to campaign for the murderous Islam-backed Odinga:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtxNQ&feature=related
SHORT VERSION:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1P_P8lBCsE

Obama talks about Ayers giving him a job:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=D-45A6I.


134 posted on 10/07/2008 9:01:51 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: gleeaikin
I don’t think that is accurate. What I thought I heard him say is that people should not HAVE to take their kid to the ER for an asthma attack [because they should have regular insurance coverage that would enable them to have a doctor of their own].

One of my friends here at college, who happens to have severe asthma, called BS on Obama on this. When you need to go to the ER, you need to go.

135 posted on 10/07/2008 9:02:09 PM PDT by GCC Catholic (Sour grapes make terrible whine.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Yeah, a legitimate imbecile.

He’s the one who egged Fitzgerald on to go after Libby.

He should be tarred and feathered and run out of conservative circles on a rail.


136 posted on 10/07/2008 9:02:20 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.")
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To: Crazieman

Don’t put words in my mouth, you don’t have the intellect.

I supported Thomspson, Mr. Straw Man, now I support mccain/Palin. Take your lame act somewhere else until after the election, you’re no better than a troll if you’re going to act like one.


137 posted on 10/07/2008 9:02:25 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: word_warrior_bob

How long have you really been here at FR?


138 posted on 10/07/2008 9:03:11 PM PDT by txhurl (Palin/McCain)
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To: Para-Ord.45

I normally enjoy the NRO crew (lots of insightful analysis) but their knee-jerk negatitivy is getting tiresome, and the quickness with which some of them abandon ship is disturbing. There is still a month left, plenty of time to rip Obama for Ayers/Reszko/Wright/Fannie & Freddie/corruption/weak foreign policy, e.g, the $3 million to a Chicago planetarium, followed by a $200K contribution to Obama from the owner. Tonight’s debate laid the foundation for the coming attack. For example, expect to hear mor eabout the proposal to relieve hte pressure on homeowners to keep them in their homes wile Obama proposees to stick it to small businesses.

It seems NRO was more interested in having McCain tell Obama off — it would have felt cathartic but self-defeating. McCain did not do that, and like the snob who relentlessly positions himself to be “proven right” no matter what the outcome, NRO wants to declare the race over so they can “I told you so” for the next 4 years. My father told me a test of character is whether you want to be in a foxhole with him/her when the assault begins. With these NRO panic-types, I would never turn my back to them!


139 posted on 10/07/2008 9:05:20 PM PDT by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: word_warrior_bob

Yup. I’m sorry supporting a socialist is wearing thin on you. Your temper is getting the best of you. Hey... it looks like McLame’s temper, in fact. Yeah.. thats it. You feel so connected with the socialist you’re taking on his persona. Next thing we know you’re going to be warning us of the evils of Global Warming, resisting conservative judges, implementing Amnesty, Campaign Finance Reform, banning free speech, resisting tax cuts, and voting for bailouts.

I feel sorry for you. You have my pity.


140 posted on 10/07/2008 9:05:44 PM PDT by Crazieman (RIP USA. Killed by demonrats and RINOs like McLame. Welcome to the USSA)
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