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Obama Citizenship Lawsuit To Be Amended To Add Defendants
Injury Board.com ^ | 10/9/08 | Brian Smith

Posted on 10/09/2008 5:13:41 PM PDT by pissant

Philadelphia attorney Philip J. Berg has sought court approval to amend his complaint in a lawsuit styled Berg v. Obama. The amended complaint would add the Pennsylvania Department of State, the Secretary of the Commonwealth Pedro A. Cortes (in his official capacity), the U. S. Senate Committee on Rules and Administration, and Senator Diane Feinstein (in her official capacity as chairman) for their failure to exercise due diligence with respect to Barack Hussein Obama's constitutional qualifications to be elected and serve as President of The United States, and for his inclusion on the ballot in Pennsylvania as a candidate for President of the United States.

In his original complaint, Mr. Berg alleged that Defendant Barack Hussein Obama is not eligible for the Office of the President because Obama lost his U.S. citizenship when his mother married an Indonesian citizen and naturalized in Indonesia. Plaintiff further alleged that Obama followed her naturalization and failed to take an oath of allegiance when he turned 18 years old to regain his U.S. citizenship status.

According to a web site maintained by the Plaintiff, the amended complaint is intended to clarify issues regarding the plaintiff's standing to bring the lawsuit and supplement the lawsuit with additional relevant facts. Those additional facts are summarized at that web site.

According to the Washington Times, the Obama campaign has firmly said the Illinois Democrat is a natural-born citizen. Last month, the campaign posted on Obama's Web site a copy of his certification of live birth. It says he was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961. The Obama web site, commenting on questions regarding whether Obama is a citizen of Kenya, cites FactCheck.org as follows:

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”

The issue of Obama's citizenship have been the topic of internet sites for months. Documents and photographs, claiming that Obama was registered in schools in Kenya under the name of Barry Soetoro, have been circulated through a variety of blogs and web sites which has fueled the debate. The Berg lawsuit raises not only the Kenyan citizenship issue but also questions whether Obama was a citizen of Indonesia. According to the allegations of the Plaintiff, Obama lost his U.S. citizenship when his mother married an Indonesian citizen, Lolo Soetoro, who legally “acknowledged” Obama as his son in Indonesia and/or “adopted” Obama, which caused Obama to become a “natural” Indonesian citizen.

The parties are waiting on the court to rule on a motion to dismiss filed by Barack Hussein Obama. Lawyers for Obama and the Democratic National Commitee have also filed a motion for a protective order staying discovery in the case until the court rules on the motion to dismiss.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: antichrist; berg; bergvobama; birthcertificate; certifigate; citizen; citizenship; colb; dnc; fec; larrysinclairslover; lawsuit; obama; obamacrimes; philberg; philipberg; phillipberg; surrick
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The Mansourian candidate just had to produce a birth certificate, yet he is fighting this tooth and nail.

GUILTY

1 posted on 10/09/2008 5:13:42 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Kevmo; LucyT; txflake

ping


2 posted on 10/09/2008 5:15:52 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

WE got RICO and we have The Birth Certificate

Does anybody believe these charges will come to pass against a presidential candidate especially one with riot potential

Talk about a constitutional crisis


3 posted on 10/09/2008 5:16:59 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: pissant

Easy fix, Obamadon of Ramadan. Just produce your real birth certificate


4 posted on 10/09/2008 5:17:45 PM PDT by realcleanguy ("I have not yet begun to fight")
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To: pissant
The Mansourian candidate just had to produce a birth certificate, yet he is fighting this tooth and nail.

 

  "Mansourian"????

5 posted on 10/09/2008 5:18:33 PM PDT by Fintan (Lisa? Lisa??? Wake up, you gotta leave...)
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To: pissant

I’m sure a “birth certificate” will be ‘made’ very soon, if it hasn’t been already. Sure it will be fake, but how would anyone ever be able to really tell for sure? I’m certain they will have their own experts look at it and approve of it’s effectiveness before allowing it to be seen by the public. They won’t pull a Mary Mapes/Dan Rather, and rush out a crap forgery.


6 posted on 10/09/2008 5:18:35 PM PDT by KoRn ("Change": Come Help A Nitwit Get Elected)
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To: pissant

Why not add Howard Dean and the DNC as well. He’s the Democrat candidate. They should have known if he was eligible or not.


7 posted on 10/09/2008 5:18:57 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: pissant

At this point, with the amended complaint of Indonesian citizenship, the birth certificate would only answer part of the complaint.

If he was in fact adopted by his stepfather, as Indonesian school records suggest, he would have to address that as well.

Either way, something is definitely shady if he isn’t willing to just do what he needs to make it go away. I really think they thought he would just sail into office without questioning.


8 posted on 10/09/2008 5:19:13 PM PDT by autumnraine (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: uncbob

This is what Odinga/Obama has in store for the USA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL3XWEqsVO4


9 posted on 10/09/2008 5:19:24 PM PDT by realcleanguy ("I have not yet begun to fight")
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To: KoRn

They already did that for the COLB released to the KOSkids


10 posted on 10/09/2008 5:19:30 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Producing a birth certificate is simple enough for most people to do, yet some would trust him to run the country when he can’t even keep up with basic personal paperwork.


11 posted on 10/09/2008 5:19:46 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: pissant

“have also filed a motion for a protective order staying discovery in the case until the court rules on the motion to dismiss.”

Why would you do this unless you have something to hide? If I was asked to prove I was a citizen for a job (which I did when I joined the Army), I would do it without a second thought. So why are they fighting this?


12 posted on 10/09/2008 5:19:53 PM PDT by MPJackal ("From my cold dead hands.")
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To: pissant

bump it


13 posted on 10/09/2008 5:20:01 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: KoRn

I think that’s why Berg added the Indonesian citizenship issue. The birth certificate is only part of the complaint.


14 posted on 10/09/2008 5:20:10 PM PDT by autumnraine (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: pissant

Nice!


15 posted on 10/09/2008 5:21:11 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: tutstar

If he lost his copy, all he has to do is ask Hawaii to go into their archives and produce a copy. Instead, he went the fake COLB route.


16 posted on 10/09/2008 5:21:53 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

did you read this: Last month, the campaign posted on Obama’s Web site a copy of his certification of live birth. It says he was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961.

it appears that he has produced certificate?


17 posted on 10/09/2008 5:22:25 PM PDT by GOPPachyderm
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To: GOPPachyderm

Obama has indeed “produced” a certificate. Yet we all want want — the original — from Hawaii.


18 posted on 10/09/2008 5:24:09 PM PDT by bvw
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To: GOPPachyderm

Holy schmoly. Have you been living in Borneo the last 4 months?


19 posted on 10/09/2008 5:24:55 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

ping


20 posted on 10/09/2008 5:26:16 PM PDT by CriticalJ
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To: pissant
Documents and photographs, claiming that Obama was registered in schools in Kenya have been circulated through a variety of blogs and web sites which has fueled the debate.

Should it be Indonesia rather than Kenya?

21 posted on 10/09/2008 5:28:10 PM PDT by lonestar
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To: pissant

Apparently. So, this is the one that is thought to be fake huh? Didn’t realize it was up at the Obama website. I thought it was some Kos website.


22 posted on 10/09/2008 5:29:32 PM PDT by GOPPachyderm
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To: autumnraine

“The birth certificate is only part of the complaint.”

I don’t get it. Does becoming an Indonesian citizen require renouncing U.S. citizenship? The burden of proof that Obama renounced is not on Obama, I’d think. All he’d have to do is produce his birth certificate, point to the fouteenth amendment, and claim, “Born a citizen, always a citizen.” It would be up to the opposition to prove that he had renounced it at some point.


23 posted on 10/09/2008 5:30:35 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: autumnraine

Any way to check if Obama requested a visa to travel to Pakistan in1981? There were travel warnings in place so I just assumed you would have needed a visa as well. That is if he was traveling on a US passport.


24 posted on 10/09/2008 5:31:23 PM PDT by gulf1609
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To: pissant

There has to be flight records of his mother traveling from Kenya to Hawaii during that time period. It should be easy enough to tell if it was before or after his birth. But again there is still the Indonesian question that will need to be cleared up as well.


25 posted on 10/09/2008 5:35:35 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: pissant

We got Berg after Zero.
Fitz going after ACORN & RICO.
Michy and Zero trying to do damage control.
Reid telling lies to a reporter and playing the race card because we dare to question Raines and Zero’s connections. Also says the same talking points about Zero 8 yr old when the lovable terrorist Ayers, yadda yadda yadda.

Going to bed a little happier tonight.


26 posted on 10/09/2008 5:36:44 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (McCAIN/PALIN...THE CHANGE AMERICANS REALLY WANT—OBAMA..THE CHANGE THE WORLD'S TERRORISTS WANT)
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To: GOPPachyderm
"it appears that he has produced certificate?"

Proven to be fraudulent four months ago. Fact check is run by Ayers' people.

27 posted on 10/09/2008 5:39:18 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obama isn't just an empty suit, he's a Suit-Bomb trying to sneak into the White House.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Hey thanks, I knew there was one that was thought to be fake, but I didn’t realize it was at the Obama site. They are pretty committed to that one being accurate then - so if they requested a duplicate, and it didn’t match for some reason .... it would cause big problems for them. If the press would take notice.


28 posted on 10/09/2008 5:41:28 PM PDT by GOPPachyderm
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To: TribalPrincess2U

I still think this is tin foil hat stuff. All someone has to do is go to Honolulu and under the Freedom of Information Act file a request for a notarized copy of the COLB.


29 posted on 10/09/2008 5:42:42 PM PDT by GOP_Muzik (If all the world's a stage then I want different lighting)
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To: GOPPachyderm

Went up on KOS first. Later that same day, the commies at Obama’s site posted it.


30 posted on 10/09/2008 5:42:44 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: uncbob

“Does anybody believe these charges will come to pass against a presidential candidate especially one with riot potential”

I say to those who want to riot “bring it on”. Having been through a number of riots her in LA most of these guys are clowns. The Koreans proved that in the Rodney King riots. A little show of force and the thugs flee. I have had my “gear” for quite awhile now.


31 posted on 10/09/2008 5:49:09 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Tublecane
Does becoming an Indonesian citizen require renouncing U.S. citizenship?

Doesn't matter. Under the Immigration and Naturalization Act, you can't renounce your citizenship unless you're over 18 years of age. HIs mother taking Indonesian citizenship (and has that ever been shown?) has no bearing on his citizenship. Nor does his putative adoption by Soetoro.

INA: ACT 349 - LOSS OF NATIONALITY BY NATIVE-BORN OR NATURALIZED CITIZEN

32 posted on 10/09/2008 5:49:11 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: tutstar

I am confused.

Obama produced a (sic) CRUDE fake Hawaii birth cert that he
(supposedly) requested from Hawaii. The YouTube videos compare a real copy of a HI cert versus Barry’s fake.

If the birth cert is a fake then he was born in Kenya. I think this is the case.

Supposedly the mother was going to fly back but they would no let her because she was too far along.

It seems like Berg does not mention this. Maybe he knows this but is attacking it a different way.

I worry we are running out of time.


33 posted on 10/09/2008 5:51:58 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: GOP_Muzik

Actually, Obama has to authorize the release, according to the law. The long-form birth certificate (which is proof of his being born in the state of Hawaii) is not considered a public record. The COLB is really just a piece of paper that says “he was born on this date”, but doesn’t legally prove where, if I understand the law correctly.

(Not a lawyer, never been on TV ;-P)


34 posted on 10/09/2008 5:54:06 PM PDT by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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To: Tublecane

You cannot have dual citizenship with Indonesia. the moment he became a Indonesian citizen - he lost his American citizenship.


35 posted on 10/09/2008 5:54:34 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: TribalPrincess2U

I think you mean Fitz is going after ACORN using RICO.


36 posted on 10/09/2008 5:56:02 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: pissant
I still think this is a huge social test. To test the stupidity of the American people. Possibly for a take over or something.

No on in there right mind would let NoBama chair anything, let alone the MOST powerful free country in the world.

Is this country on the verge of insanity or what?

With this being said, I still believe that this ‘test’ is going to explode and expose way more than many can imagine. This country will never be the same. Thank God for Sarah Palin and John McCain for bringing her forward.

Sean Hannity said 2008 will be seen as the death of journalism and I agree!! The rats will self implode I am sure. What will they do, what can they do?

This is also the greatest reason they HATE Sarah, for she just smiles and walks right over them. I LOVE IT!!!!!!!

37 posted on 10/09/2008 5:59:33 PM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Sarahcuda = the dems worst nightmare)
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To: GOP_Muzik

The laws of Hawaii are such that only family members can get the copies.


38 posted on 10/09/2008 6:03:25 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: pissant

PHIL BERG’S SITE IS CRASHED!!!

Could it be virtual brownshirts?

www.obamacrimes.com


39 posted on 10/09/2008 6:05:52 PM PDT by Shady Ray
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To: pissant

SAVAGEPOLITICS ALSO CRASHED!!!

One of the first anti-obama sites is crashed, as is Phil Berg’s (lawyer in birth certificate suit).

This smells funny...

www.savagepolitics.com

www.obamacrimes.com


40 posted on 10/09/2008 6:08:28 PM PDT by Shady Ray
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To: Parley Baer

That is true but the jellyfish we have as mayors governors etc etc will be scared to death


41 posted on 10/09/2008 6:08:50 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Parley Baer

The Korean-Americans during Rodney king riots did not screw around. they were shooting to kill and I think they killed a few rioters and they were not prosecuted.


42 posted on 10/09/2008 6:09:19 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: pissant

obumpa


43 posted on 10/09/2008 6:09:36 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: pissant

bttt!


44 posted on 10/09/2008 6:10:32 PM PDT by txhurl (Palin/McCain)
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To: ridesthemiles

That’s non redacted copies right??

I mentioned this on another thread that I was able, as a citizen of Dekalb county Georgia, to obtain a redacted copy of my former crazy rep. Cynthia McKinney’s birth certificate just to prove that she wasn’t an alien from another planet. It took me 5 minutes to file the request at the county courthouse and about 10 minutes for me to have in hand a notarized copy, embossed seal and all, of the document. Not trying to throw water on the fire, I’m not familiar with Hawaii law AT ALL but just saying that I think this would be pretty easy for someone to investigate.

Then again, I just read tonight where CNN is hitting Obama hard on his Ayers ties, so that proves that anything is possible in today’s politics. Perhaps there is something to this.


45 posted on 10/09/2008 6:10:57 PM PDT by GOP_Muzik (If all the world's a stage then I want different lighting)
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Utter nonsense
46 posted on 10/09/2008 6:20:51 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: Frantzie

Thanks. My bad.


47 posted on 10/09/2008 6:24:13 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (McCAIN/PALIN...THE CHANGE AMERICANS REALLY WANT—OBAMA..THE CHANGE THE WORLD'S TERRORISTS WANT)
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To: Shady Ray

Yep, somethings going on.

Bastards. They don’t know who they’re dealing with.


48 posted on 10/09/2008 6:26:38 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (McCAIN/PALIN...THE CHANGE AMERICANS REALLY WANT—OBAMA..THE CHANGE THE WORLD'S TERRORISTS WANT)
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To: GOP_Muzik
Then again, I just read tonight where CNN is hitting Obama hard on his Ayers ties, so that proves that anything is possible in today’s politics. Perhaps there is something to this.

Hitting hard, not likely. That's socialist damage control.

49 posted on 10/09/2008 6:27:58 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (McCAIN/PALIN...THE CHANGE AMERICANS REALLY WANT—OBAMA..THE CHANGE THE WORLD'S TERRORISTS WANT)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Doesn't matter. Under the Immigration and Naturalization Act, you can't renounce your citizenship unless you're over 18 years of age. HIs mother taking Indonesian citizenship (and has that ever been shown?) has no bearing on his citizenship. Nor does his putative adoption by Soetoro. INA: ACT 349 - LOSS OF NATIONALITY BY NATIVE-BORN OR NATURALIZED CITIZEN

Darn! That blows THAT!! :(

50 posted on 10/09/2008 6:59:57 PM PDT by GOP_Thug_Mom (libera nos a malo)
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