Skip to comments.Obama Citizenship Lawsuit To Be Amended To Add Defendants
Posted on 10/09/2008 5:13:41 PM PDT by pissant
Philadelphia attorney Philip J. Berg has sought court approval to amend his complaint in a lawsuit styled Berg v. Obama. The amended complaint would add the Pennsylvania Department of State, the Secretary of the Commonwealth Pedro A. Cortes (in his official capacity), the U. S. Senate Committee on Rules and Administration, and Senator Diane Feinstein (in her official capacity as chairman) for their failure to exercise due diligence with respect to Barack Hussein Obama's constitutional qualifications to be elected and serve as President of The United States, and for his inclusion on the ballot in Pennsylvania as a candidate for President of the United States.
In his original complaint, Mr. Berg alleged that Defendant Barack Hussein Obama is not eligible for the Office of the President because Obama lost his U.S. citizenship when his mother married an Indonesian citizen and naturalized in Indonesia. Plaintiff further alleged that Obama followed her naturalization and failed to take an oath of allegiance when he turned 18 years old to regain his U.S. citizenship status.
According to a web site maintained by the Plaintiff, the amended complaint is intended to clarify issues regarding the plaintiff's standing to bring the lawsuit and supplement the lawsuit with additional relevant facts. Those additional facts are summarized at that web site.
According to the Washington Times, the Obama campaign has firmly said the Illinois Democrat is a natural-born citizen. Last month, the campaign posted on Obama's Web site a copy of his certification of live birth. It says he was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961. The Obama web site, commenting on questions regarding whether Obama is a citizen of Kenya, cites FactCheck.org as follows:
When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdoms dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.s children.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.
The issue of Obama's citizenship have been the topic of internet sites for months. Documents and photographs, claiming that Obama was registered in schools in Kenya under the name of Barry Soetoro, have been circulated through a variety of blogs and web sites which has fueled the debate. The Berg lawsuit raises not only the Kenyan citizenship issue but also questions whether Obama was a citizen of Indonesia. According to the allegations of the Plaintiff, Obama lost his U.S. citizenship when his mother married an Indonesian citizen, Lolo Soetoro, who legally acknowledged Obama as his son in Indonesia and/or adopted Obama, which caused Obama to become a natural Indonesian citizen.
The parties are waiting on the court to rule on a motion to dismiss filed by Barack Hussein Obama. Lawyers for Obama and the Democratic National Commitee have also filed a motion for a protective order staying discovery in the case until the court rules on the motion to dismiss.
WE got RICO and we have The Birth Certificate
Does anybody believe these charges will come to pass against a presidential candidate especially one with riot potential
Talk about a constitutional crisis
Easy fix, Obamadon of Ramadan. Just produce your real birth certificate
I’m sure a “birth certificate” will be ‘made’ very soon, if it hasn’t been already. Sure it will be fake, but how would anyone ever be able to really tell for sure? I’m certain they will have their own experts look at it and approve of it’s effectiveness before allowing it to be seen by the public. They won’t pull a Mary Mapes/Dan Rather, and rush out a crap forgery.
Why not add Howard Dean and the DNC as well. He’s the Democrat candidate. They should have known if he was eligible or not.
At this point, with the amended complaint of Indonesian citizenship, the birth certificate would only answer part of the complaint.
If he was in fact adopted by his stepfather, as Indonesian school records suggest, he would have to address that as well.
Either way, something is definitely shady if he isn’t willing to just do what he needs to make it go away. I really think they thought he would just sail into office without questioning.
This is what Odinga/Obama has in store for the USA
They already did that for the COLB released to the KOSkids
Producing a birth certificate is simple enough for most people to do, yet some would trust him to run the country when he can’t even keep up with basic personal paperwork.
“have also filed a motion for a protective order staying discovery in the case until the court rules on the motion to dismiss.”
Why would you do this unless you have something to hide? If I was asked to prove I was a citizen for a job (which I did when I joined the Army), I would do it without a second thought. So why are they fighting this?
I think that’s why Berg added the Indonesian citizenship issue. The birth certificate is only part of the complaint.
If he lost his copy, all he has to do is ask Hawaii to go into their archives and produce a copy. Instead, he went the fake COLB route.
did you read this: Last month, the campaign posted on Obama’s Web site a copy of his certification of live birth. It says he was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961.
it appears that he has produced certificate?
Obama has indeed “produced” a certificate. Yet we all want want — the original — from Hawaii.
Holy schmoly. Have you been living in Borneo the last 4 months?
Should it be Indonesia rather than Kenya?
Apparently. So, this is the one that is thought to be fake huh? Didn’t realize it was up at the Obama website. I thought it was some Kos website.
“The birth certificate is only part of the complaint.”
I don’t get it. Does becoming an Indonesian citizen require renouncing U.S. citizenship? The burden of proof that Obama renounced is not on Obama, I’d think. All he’d have to do is produce his birth certificate, point to the fouteenth amendment, and claim, “Born a citizen, always a citizen.” It would be up to the opposition to prove that he had renounced it at some point.
Any way to check if Obama requested a visa to travel to Pakistan in1981? There were travel warnings in place so I just assumed you would have needed a visa as well. That is if he was traveling on a US passport.
There has to be flight records of his mother traveling from Kenya to Hawaii during that time period. It should be easy enough to tell if it was before or after his birth. But again there is still the Indonesian question that will need to be cleared up as well.
We got Berg after Zero.
Fitz going after ACORN & RICO.
Michy and Zero trying to do damage control.
Reid telling lies to a reporter and playing the race card because we dare to question Raines and Zero’s connections. Also says the same talking points about Zero 8 yr old when the lovable terrorist Ayers, yadda yadda yadda.
Going to bed a little happier tonight.
Proven to be fraudulent four months ago. Fact check is run by Ayers' people.
Hey thanks, I knew there was one that was thought to be fake, but I didn’t realize it was at the Obama site. They are pretty committed to that one being accurate then - so if they requested a duplicate, and it didn’t match for some reason .... it would cause big problems for them. If the press would take notice.
I still think this is tin foil hat stuff. All someone has to do is go to Honolulu and under the Freedom of Information Act file a request for a notarized copy of the COLB.
Went up on KOS first. Later that same day, the commies at Obama’s site posted it.
“Does anybody believe these charges will come to pass against a presidential candidate especially one with riot potential”
I say to those who want to riot “bring it on”. Having been through a number of riots her in LA most of these guys are clowns. The Koreans proved that in the Rodney King riots. A little show of force and the thugs flee. I have had my “gear” for quite awhile now.
Doesn't matter. Under the Immigration and Naturalization Act, you can't renounce your citizenship unless you're over 18 years of age. HIs mother taking Indonesian citizenship (and has that ever been shown?) has no bearing on his citizenship. Nor does his putative adoption by Soetoro.
I am confused.
Obama produced a (sic) CRUDE fake Hawaii birth cert that he
(supposedly) requested from Hawaii. The YouTube videos compare a real copy of a HI cert versus Barry’s fake.
If the birth cert is a fake then he was born in Kenya. I think this is the case.
Supposedly the mother was going to fly back but they would no let her because she was too far along.
It seems like Berg does not mention this. Maybe he knows this but is attacking it a different way.
I worry we are running out of time.
Actually, Obama has to authorize the release, according to the law. The long-form birth certificate (which is proof of his being born in the state of Hawaii) is not considered a public record. The COLB is really just a piece of paper that says “he was born on this date”, but doesn’t legally prove where, if I understand the law correctly.
(Not a lawyer, never been on TV ;-P)
You cannot have dual citizenship with Indonesia. the moment he became a Indonesian citizen - he lost his American citizenship.
I think you mean Fitz is going after ACORN using RICO.
No on in there right mind would let NoBama chair anything, let alone the MOST powerful free country in the world.
Is this country on the verge of insanity or what?
With this being said, I still believe that this ‘test’ is going to explode and expose way more than many can imagine. This country will never be the same. Thank God for Sarah Palin and John McCain for bringing her forward.
Sean Hannity said 2008 will be seen as the death of journalism and I agree!! The rats will self implode I am sure. What will they do, what can they do?
This is also the greatest reason they HATE Sarah, for she just smiles and walks right over them. I LOVE IT!!!!!!!
The laws of Hawaii are such that only family members can get the copies.
PHIL BERG’S SITE IS CRASHED!!!
Could it be virtual brownshirts?
SAVAGEPOLITICS ALSO CRASHED!!!
One of the first anti-obama sites is crashed, as is Phil Berg’s (lawyer in birth certificate suit).
This smells funny...
That is true but the jellyfish we have as mayors governors etc etc will be scared to death
The Korean-Americans during Rodney king riots did not screw around. they were shooting to kill and I think they killed a few rioters and they were not prosecuted.
That’s non redacted copies right??
I mentioned this on another thread that I was able, as a citizen of Dekalb county Georgia, to obtain a redacted copy of my former crazy rep. Cynthia McKinney’s birth certificate just to prove that she wasn’t an alien from another planet. It took me 5 minutes to file the request at the county courthouse and about 10 minutes for me to have in hand a notarized copy, embossed seal and all, of the document. Not trying to throw water on the fire, I’m not familiar with Hawaii law AT ALL but just saying that I think this would be pretty easy for someone to investigate.
Then again, I just read tonight where CNN is hitting Obama hard on his Ayers ties, so that proves that anything is possible in today’s politics. Perhaps there is something to this.
Thanks. My bad.
Yep, somethings going on.
Bastards. They don’t know who they’re dealing with.
Hitting hard, not likely. That's socialist damage control.
Darn! That blows THAT!! :(