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Ayers/Obama ghostwriting charge

Posted on 10/10/2008 6:26:32 PM PDT by CNapier

Looking for a digital copy (PDF, any reader format) of the Ayers book "Fugitive Days". we are attempting stylometric analysis of obama memoirs. need ayers' book. have ordered copy online, but won't be delivered soon, and we must scan it all. and then proofread for OCR issues. if anyone has access to a copy that we could get immediately, or even better, if you can digitize--well, we'll work on it immediately. we've already got both of obama's books loaded, and we're working on some "control" books of similar memoirs.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: ayers; ghostwriting; obama; vanitypalooza
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1 posted on 10/10/2008 6:26:32 PM PDT by CNapier
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To: CNapier

Are both available in digital audio, I know Obama’s is. Can the type of analysis you are trying to do be done with the audio?


2 posted on 10/10/2008 6:32:09 PM PDT by JrsyJack
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To: CNapier

don’t have a copy but I’ll give you a bump and thank you for your project!


3 posted on 10/10/2008 6:32:45 PM PDT by Tamzee (Thomas Jefferson - "Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle.")
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To: CNapier
Most FReepers would not be caught dead with a book by Ayers.

Good luck with this important project.

4 posted on 10/10/2008 6:33:08 PM PDT by Dream Warrior (Will someone wake up Senator McCain!)
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To: CNapier

stylometric analysis - man, that brings back memories from undergrad; I did a bit of this for some of my linguistics courses.


5 posted on 10/10/2008 6:33:14 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: CNapier

People actually bought copies of Ayers’ book???


6 posted on 10/10/2008 6:33:26 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: CNapier

good.


7 posted on 10/10/2008 6:33:36 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: CNapier
People who want to know where Obama's writing style came from are better off looking at Frank Marshall (the Marxist sexual pervert) Davis.

He was Obama's personal Obi Won Kenobi in Hawaii from ages 9 through 18.

8 posted on 10/10/2008 6:33:47 PM PDT by unspun (Web search: "Cloward-Piven AND Obama" - get the truth out to all GOP officials & conservative media.)
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To: CNapier; indianyogi

Napier,

Look at this thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2102772/posts


9 posted on 10/10/2008 6:33:54 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: CNapier

Good luck breaking the Obama Code. The media won’t report any findings.

They are acting “shocked” that Obama had this in his past. The media has known about the Obama-Ayers connection. That they can’t already discredit the claims speaks volume.

While one FReeper reported that within a newsroom a journalist said that NO resources were being used to investigate Obama’s background (at the time that Ms. Palin was getting 30 reporters assigned to Alaska to dig up dirt), I find it hard to believe that NONE of them looked into on their own.


10 posted on 10/10/2008 6:39:07 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: Dream Warrior

Opposition research is necessary sometimes.

I read a number of works by sixties radicals (including Jerry Rubin, Paul Krassner, Timothy Leary, Hunter S. Thompson...). I wasn’t “swayed” by their passions, I did note how open they were about their crimes and their support of Socialism.

The Left calls us “fascists” but I don’t see anything in the US Republican party that in any way resembles the definition.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fascism

And I don’t want to hear that it is a “uniquely American” version. The Socialism of the American Left is the same all over the world. Call it Socialism, Progressivism, Communism... it all comes from Marxism.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fascism

“A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.”

This sounds more like Obama-Biden’s America, with more regulation of the economy, a fairness doctrine, police harassment of those airing political ads on tv, “patriotrism” in paying taxes, and a revisionist take on the historical foundation of this country.

While there are plenty of political groups around the world alligned with the Left in America, Constitutional conservatives have no foreign supporters, there are none of these Constitutional guarantees around the rest of the world. Gun grabbers rejoice.

And when it comes to social conservativism, again, there is little support for the American opposition to abortion and the norming of homosexuality and other issues in the culture war. There IS some religious support for it but with European religious observance falling off, it is a minority opinion of a shrinking minority.


11 posted on 10/10/2008 6:48:40 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: CNapier

You are wasting your time. Even if you came up with something it would prove nothing.

Obama isn’t Darth Vader. He is just a white kid playing a black kid. He isn’t a terrorist; terrorists take risks. Obama is a pretend radical who was adopted by the Chicago Democrat establishment as their next shot at power after Hal Washington died unexpectedly. He is the heir to the Adalai Stevenson, Paul Simon torch passed to him via Abner Mikva and Newton Minow. He has modeled his career after Hal Washington’s. State senator from the south side, a run for congress (Hal won his, Obama didn’t) and ivy league law school. Everybody thought Hal could be the first black president. Jesse Jackson ran on his coattails. Mosley-Braun did too, as did Dinkins.

Obama is an empty suit, not a criminal mastermind.


12 posted on 10/10/2008 6:52:20 PM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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To: CNapier

Hey this is my project. But it would be great if someone fixed the paragraph formating of
Obama’s books here:

Dreams From My Father (PDF)
http://obamalover.googlepages.com/DreamsFromMyFather.pdf

Audacity of Hope (PDF)
http://obamalover.googlepages.com/AudacityOfHope-ThoughtsOnReclaimingT.pdf

Here is what we have outlined so far.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2100565/posts

Here is my preliminary analysis using some Ayers samples (letters to editor etc)
see it on this website
www.palin247.com

I am also tinkering with Google special 10 year anniversary search, they let you just search the year 2001 as if you went back in time to 2001.


13 posted on 10/10/2008 7:00:01 PM PDT by steve0
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To: CNapier
You just joined today for an "impossible dream?"

Methinks you don't grasp the magnitude of the task.

Good luck, though.

14 posted on 10/10/2008 7:07:43 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: CNapier

I’m of the opinion that since Obama and Ayers lived in close proximity when he went to NYC to attend Columbia in 1981 and that Obama and Ayers have been closely aligned since that time. It would explain Obama leaving NYC to become a Community Organizer/Agitator and being selected for the Annenberg Project since he had NO experience at all. He could have been hand picked by Ayers to lead the program because he and Ayers went back to 1981 or there’bouts.

Good luck, all I can find is the book for sale on Amazon dot com.


15 posted on 10/10/2008 7:08:08 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (All You Need is Money [Soros] and a Candidate Who Can Be Coached to Look Sincere [Obama]. A. Huxley)
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To: Soliton
(Obama) is just a white kid playing a black kid. He isn’t a terrorist; terrorists take risks. Obama is a pretend radical who was adopted by the Chicago Democrat establishment as their next shot at power.

Well put. He IS a white kid playing a black kid. He has ties to the White Community through his mother, but he has NO ties to the American Black Community, only to the Arab-African Marxist Community.

I think I'll put out a poster in my front yard that says: Barry Obama is a White Kid playing a Black Kid.
16 posted on 10/10/2008 7:13:36 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (All You Need is Money [Soros] and a Candidate Who Can Be Coached to Look Sincere [Obama]. A. Huxley)
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To: CNapier

Here’s Obama’s poem, “Underground” from 1981, published in Occidental College’s Occidental Weekly:

UNDERGROUND

Under water grottos, caverns
Filled with apes
That eat figs.
Stepping on the figs
That the apes
Eat, they crunch.
The apes howl, bare
Their fangs, dance,
Tumble in the
Rushing water,
Musty, wet pelts
Glistening in the blue.

Without making too much of it, this is obviously typical college crap poetry, evidencing NO talent for writing whatsoever. Whoever wrote Dreams of My Father, or at least the literary sections, it wasn’t Barack “Barry” Obama-Soetoro.


17 posted on 10/10/2008 7:13:53 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: CNapier

Thank You!


18 posted on 10/10/2008 7:24:39 PM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (God Bless Sarah Palin and her Family.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

How do you make a hot link in freepers?

Like the one below for example!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2102772/posts

Many thanks.


19 posted on 10/10/2008 7:24:56 PM PDT by indianyogi
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To: CNapier
Check most University library's. I just checked the University of Illinois went to their library and found the electronic version and a hard copy available.
20 posted on 10/10/2008 7:27:57 PM PDT by Recon Dad (Marsoc Dad)
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