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The Man Behind the Whispers About Obama (Free Republic mentioned)
International Herald Tribune ^ | Monday, October 13, 2008 | Jim Rutenberg

Posted on 10/12/2008 8:21:33 PM PDT by kristinn

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To: border bud
Honestly, after listening to that “Christian” pastor preaching in that “Christian” church — can he really be called a “Christian”?

You must remember that Father Plfeger, a Roamn Catholic priest was a guest pastor there.

Do you really believe that an upstanding Catholic priest of his stature would share that pulpit, if it was wasn't a really a Christian church?

Do you really beleive that the Archbishop wouldn't defrock his priest for those antics his psychodrama and preaching, if that wasn't a really-truly honestly Christian Church with a really-truly honestly Christian message?

All such things considered, all I can conclude is that TUCC is a really-truly honestly Christian church, and that it is Chrisitian and Catholic (at least in that Arch Diocese) doctrine that America needs to be damned; that Obama is The Messiah; that Jesus was black-African; that Hillary Clinton is The Antichrist; and that Whitey is unconditionally and irredeemably condemned to Hell.

Besides, doesn't your church have big, burly, Black Muslim men in suits & bowties gurading its doors on Sunday mornings, to keep out 'unauthorized' worshippers and seekers?

61 posted on 10/13/2008 12:41:53 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: kristinn

Obama’s mother is known to have been an atheist. Young Obama was raised “Muslim lite” in Indonesia (after likely being born in Kenya) and then later raised as a teenager in Hawaii. If there is any evidence that Obama went to any church at all prior to graduating college, I haven’t seen it.

When Obama got to South Side Chicago to pursue his political career the Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson way - - as a community agitator - - he looked around for a church to join and decided that Trinity would make as good a prop as any. Belonging to a church is a necessity, of course, for anybody with serious political ambitions. Plus, the church is big and the networking is great.

Anybody who believes the “Obama is a Christian” nonsense is a fool.
Cripes, get real.


62 posted on 10/13/2008 12:56:06 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ETL

It isn't just Michelle & Mrs Farrakhan in that picture.

Mrs. Jamell Meeks, wife of Rev. James Meeks, vice president, Rainbow/PUSH...

Reverend James Meeks is who replaced Rev. Jeremiah Wright as Senior Pastor at Trinity United.

63 posted on 10/13/2008 1:00:16 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: DallasMike
Ditto for the "Obama was born in Kenya" conspiracy theory.

Just to clarify for others, I didn't post anything claiming Obama was 'born in Kenya'. What I did post had to do with him going to Kenya to campaign for the Marxist thug Odinga. Hundreds of people were hunted down and murdered by his supporters following his election defeat. He openly encouraged the bloody protests.

For more on that, see:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2103801/posts

64 posted on 10/13/2008 1:08:26 AM PDT by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: TAdams8591

You need to read this:

THE EVIDENCE IS OVERWHELMING:
http://theobamafile.com/ObamaIslam.htm
http://theobamafile.com/


65 posted on 10/13/2008 1:15:56 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: TAdams8591

Excellent commentary!


66 posted on 10/13/2008 1:16:28 AM PDT by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: Onelifetogive
I agree with you. Ya sure, right he's a Christian. Just listen to him mock the Bible. Sounds more like the anti-Christ to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnmS_vULPxw
67 posted on 10/13/2008 2:17:11 AM PDT by Bellflower (A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
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To: RasterMaster

I didn’t even keep a muslim file on Obama. But now I’ll start. However, we have bigger fish to fry regarding Obama, I think.


68 posted on 10/13/2008 2:44:26 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("Never tell me the odds!" -- Han Solo)
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To: FreePoster
You have hit the proverbial nail on the head. Excellent common sense approach.
69 posted on 10/13/2008 3:11:24 AM PDT by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: Piranha

bttt


70 posted on 10/13/2008 5:45:35 AM PDT by petercooper (IQ tests for all voters!)
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To: silentreignofheroes
"My MIL insists Hussein is a Muslim.Wonder where she got that idea?"

It is a basic tenet of the Muslim religion that you inherit your religion from your father. BHO's father was a Muslim.

71 posted on 10/13/2008 5:53:54 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Global Warming Theory is extremely robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it)
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To: FreedomProtector

bump to that


72 posted on 10/13/2008 6:30:28 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Acorn, Africa, Ayers, and we haven't even gotten to the "B's" yet!)
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To: kristinn
Barack Hussein Obama (Barry Sotero) is a Muslim. You want evidence?

1) His father was a Muslim. According to Islam, he is a Muslim.
2) He has recited the Shahada... in Arabic. According to Islam, he is a Muslim.
3) He has attended worship services at a Mosque... to worship as a Muslim. According to Islam, he is a Muslim.
4) Lying to infidels is encouraged in Islam when it furthers the jihad.

5) The Muslim world loves him and sees him as one of their own. If he were no longer a Muslim, he would be reviled and marked for death... in accordance with the exhortations of the Koran.

73 posted on 10/13/2008 6:50:30 AM PDT by pgyanke (You have no “rights” that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: kristinn
Barack Hussein Obama (Barry Sotero) is a Muslim. You want evidence?

1) His father was a Muslim. According to Islam, he is a Muslim.
2) He has recited the Shahada... in Arabic. According to Islam, he is a Muslim.
3) He has attended worship services at a Mosque... to worship as a Muslim. According to Islam, he is a Muslim.
4) Lying to infidels is encouraged in Islam when it furthers the jihad.

5) The Muslim world loves him and sees him as one of their own. If he were no longer a Muslim, he would be reviled and marked for death... in accordance with the exhortations of the Koran.

74 posted on 10/13/2008 6:56:13 AM PDT by pgyanke (You have no “rights” that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: danamco

I didn’t say that.
I’m convinced he’s a Muslim. :)


75 posted on 10/13/2008 7:19:39 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: kristinn
The penalty for apostasy from Islam is death. If he really was a Christian, and not an Islamist mole, there would be a fatwa on him.

Not a word have we seen.

76 posted on 10/13/2008 7:34:43 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: muawiyah

bttt


77 posted on 10/13/2008 8:02:07 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (2008 = The Year of the Toilet (for 'rats))
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To: Eagles6

“I find obama’s “Christian” church more disturbing than the muslim upbringing that he didn’t have.” ~ Eagles6

Meet the guy who invented Obama’s religion: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2103612/posts?page=194#194

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Meet the black preacher who says an Obama presidency will unleash 400 years of pent-up black anger. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwYJ8aOL3f8

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Video: Rudy Giuliani says OBAMA IS A TROJAN HORSE - he has concealed his true politics so cleverly with his phony rhetoric, but once in power, his Marxists cronies will become entrenched in our country like a cancer. http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=7gktQZfZ44Q

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National Black Republican October Newsletter (Don’t miss this!): http://garyfouse.blogspot.com/2008/10/october-newsletter-national-black.html

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Black Racists Recruited to Guide the Jihad (Meet the man who paid for Obama’s Harvard education)
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=0F03A69D-2986-4CE8-9158-C986849424D5
Here’s Obama on videotape with him: Obama and Khalid Mansour http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EcC0QAd0Ug

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OBAMA CAUGHT ON TAPE SAYING ACORN AND FRIENDS WILL SHAPE HIS PRESIDENCY
Obama said ACORN and friends, responsible for voting fraud and the subprime crisis, are going to be shaping policy for an Obama presidency
Watch video: http://digg.com/politics/OBAMA_CAUGHT_SAYING_ACORN_AND_FRIENDS_WILL_SHAPE_HIS_PRESIDE

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Obama agitates his people into getting in our face: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2103747/posts?page=31#31

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Other short and sweet video clips for sharing far and wide: http://neverfindout.org/

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WSJ OCTOBER 13, 2008 Obama’s 95% Illusion It depends on what the meaning of ‘tax cut’ is.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

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“I have been asked to talk about what I consider the most important challenge facing mankind, and I have a fundamental answer. The greatest challenge facing mankind is the challenge of distinguishing reality from fantasy, truth from propaganda. Perceiving the truth has always been a challenge to mankind, but in the information age (or as I think of it, the disinformation age) it takes on a special urgency and importance. ..” ~ Michael Crichton To read more - click here ( http://www.crichton-official.com/speeches.html) and scroll down to “Environmentalism as Religion” Remarks to the Commonwealth Club by Michael Crichton, San Francisco, September 15, 2003

The first rule of advertising is “Advertise your weakest point”. Hence, we have names like “Fact Check”, “Fairness Doctrine”, “Progressive”, “Hope”.

For instance, FactCheck.org itself, cannot be trusted (ditto Snopes) even though it has sold itself as “Politically NEUTRAL” to America’s voters and media personnel. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2104053/posts

NOTE: I want to recommend this article to all of you when you get time to read it: Strategic Intention and Mass Man by J. R. Nyquist http://www.financialsense.com/stormwatch/geo/pastanalysis/2008/0314.html

Excerpt: “..There recently appeared an essay by Anthony Daniels, http://newcriterion.com/archives/26/03/at-the-forests-edge published in The New Criterion, http://newcriterion.com/ in which he summarized Spanish philosopher Jose Ortega y Gasset’s notion of “mass man” as the man “who goes from distraction to distraction, who is prey to absurd fashions, who never thinks deeply….” In the first decade of the twenty-first century this is all too familiar. In 2008 we live in a society dominated by “mass men,” overtaken by mass psychology, mass media, mass schooling and the mass ignorance presently crowding in around us. Today’s mass audience cannot distinguish the important from the trivial. What needs to be acknowledged, and one day will be acknowledged, is the very real distinction between “low-minded” and “high-minded,” between moral courage and venial conformism, between thinkers and fakers. This is what it comes down to. [snip]


78 posted on 10/13/2008 8:27:28 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (2008 = The Year of the Toilet (for 'rats))
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To: ETL

Sorry if I implied that you were saying such things. I was actually complimenting you on a very sane post. The complaint were directed against others who keep on making the same posts on what seems like every thread here at FR.


79 posted on 10/13/2008 8:27:31 AM PDT by DallasMike
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To: April Lexington

Just prove your descent from a Swiss citizen (and several other places in Europe), and you’ve got it. The earliest families almost always have a Swiss from one or the other cantons.


80 posted on 10/13/2008 9:10:43 AM PDT by muawiyah
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