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THIS RACE IS WINNABLE!!!

Posted on 10/14/2008 9:10:48 PM PDT by WestFlorida

Let me be clear, we are without a doubt behind in this race. The odds are definitely against us, but then again with the right/wrong numbers the way they have been and presidential approval numbers very low, we knew this for over a year. I believe the same party has held the white house three elections in a row only twice the last 100 years.

But taking all those things into account, along with the fact that we have BEEN OUTSPENT 3 TO 1. That is about to change, with the RNC committing to about 7.5 million a day along with the 527's(Obama has been spending 3 million a day). Obama should be 15 points ahead, and I mean in legitimate polls with properly weighed samples. He's not because voters have serious doubts about his character.

The point is, we have taken there best shots and are still standing. So everybody go rent the move "Miracle" about the US 1980 Olympic Hockey Team, watch my Tampa Bay Rays go to the world series Thursday(Hopefully!!), and keep the faith. We have approximately 200,000 more absentee ballot requests in Florida than the dems so far.

NEVER GIVE UP!


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2004election; 2008; chat; mccain; obama; vanitypalooza; vanityrepublic; yetanothervanity

1 posted on 10/14/2008 9:10:49 PM PDT by WestFlorida
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To: WestFlorida

God Bless ya!!! :-)


2 posted on 10/14/2008 9:13:08 PM PDT by Bush Revolution (Not all CHANGE is good and I HOPE America understands that...GEAUX TIGERS!!!!)
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To: WestFlorida

I also believe McPalin will win handily. Here are my reasons:

1) “Polls” that show Obama ahead tell a different story when internals are studied.

2) Hillary and Bill don’t want Obama to win, since she wants to run again in 2012

3) “Hussein” being Obama’s middle name is still news to most people.

4) A picture of Obama dressed as a Muslim (there are at least three) is still worth 1000 words (3000 in this case). Man your email station! Post bills!

5) The PUMAs who know the hows and whys of Hillary getting cheated, will vote Palin, and will pull others. Check out http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=33711&page=3 and http://democrats-against-obama.org

6) “Bitter ... [Gun Clingers]”, will vote McCain

7) The Palins ARE America and the conservative base. America and the conservative base will vote accordingly.

8) The NRA has “8 figures” of ads to unload in “swing” states

9) At one point, Obama was only 5 points up in New York! New York!

10) The Democrats were talking about Democratic consultants freaking out over Obama mis-managing his campaign before they settled into poll alteration.

11) The Enemedia is already spreading the meme that if Obama loses, it “is racism”. They see the tea leaves ...

12) The Media was calling the election for Kerry ELECTION MORNING in 2004, and Carter and Reagan polled evenly on election day! SOMEONE is trying to buffalo us with these polls! Here’s a history lesson of ACTUAL RESULTS:

1980: Reagan 50.75%, Carter 41%, (+9.75 Reagan) Reagan won 45 states.
1984: Regan 58.77%, Mondale 40.56% (+18.21 Regan) Reagan won 49 states.
1988: Bush 53.37%, Dukakis 45.65% (+7.72 Bush) Bush won 42 states.
1992: Clinton 43.01%, Bush 37.45%, Perot 18.91% (+5.66% Clinton) Clinton won 30 states.
1996: Clinton 49.23%, Dole 40.72%, Perot 8.40% (+8.49% Clinton) Clinton won 31 states.
2000: Bush 47.87%, Gore 48.38% (Gore +0.49%) Bush won 30 states.
2004: Bush 50.73%, Kerry 48.27% (Bush +2.46%) Bush won 31 states.

NO WAY is Obama up 14 points!

13) McCain has only started to play the Ayers and ACORN cards. McCain has not yet played the Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezko, Odinga, ... more at http://www.barackbook.com

14) Plenty of white Democratic voters are unimpressed with Obama, and will not vote for him. Democrats can’t energize their base!

15) Obama has only 60% of the Jewish vote last I checked, compared to the 75% Kerry got.

16) The Christian base that re-elected Bush in 2004, knows Sarah is more than a Sunday Christian, and is praying for her.

17) McCain opened 50 offices in California. It’s in play! It should be the bluest of the blue, and it is not.

18) Google “Bradley Effect”. Obama is getting poll votes he’ll never get on election day. PUMAs have also agreed to lie to pollsters about supporting Obama, and are encouraging others to do so.

19) Operation Chaos resulted in an overlarge quantity of Democrat registrations that will never ever vote Democratic.

20) Polls are meant by the liberal media, to SHAPE public opinion, not report it.


3 posted on 10/14/2008 9:14:52 PM PDT by ROTB (Our Constitution [is] for a [Christian] people. It is wholly inadequate [for] any other. -John Adams)
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To: WestFlorida

I am spending too to win.

Contribute folks!

WE WILL WIN.

Do NOT kneel before the polling gods and whimper.

Fight!

Piss off a liberal and fight!


4 posted on 10/14/2008 9:15:43 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: WestFlorida

That depends wholly on whether McCain resists the urge to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory at the last moment.


5 posted on 10/14/2008 9:17:26 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Baldwin/Castle '08 - Gilmore for Senator from Virginia '08)
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To: WestFlorida

At least one anti-republican colleague of mine has voted for hillary as a write-in candidate. He explained to me that his whole family is “mad as hell” about what the dnc did to hillary.


6 posted on 10/14/2008 9:19:09 PM PDT by Schnucki (The branchflower report accuses Governor Palin of "likely" committing thought crimes.)
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To: WestFlorida

Well, if you do a little simple math to adjust the poll numbers from their donk oversampling to the donk/GOP actual turnouts in 2000 and 2004, McCain is WAY ahead. But the reigstrations (ACORN, anyone?) show that the donks are going to turn out 4:3 this year. Uh huh.


7 posted on 10/14/2008 9:19:18 PM PDT by piytar
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To: WestFlorida

I’m looking for one thing and one thing only, what is the condition of the Get Out the Vote efforts?

In 04 and 06, our GOTV was supreme, granted we lost in 06, but we kept it relatively close mainly via GOTV, does anyone have any information on McPalin’s GOTV efforts?

Especially in FL and Compared to GWB’s?


8 posted on 10/14/2008 9:19:42 PM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: WestFlorida

I hope you’re right, but the only way is to call the media out. Start by exposing the bias in your own local paper. Mine has been completely silent on ACORN, for instance. And I’m calling it out here: The Post-Star out of Glens Falls, NY.


9 posted on 10/14/2008 9:19:48 PM PDT by sageb1 (Feminism is dead. Long live Palinism!)
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To: WestFlorida

I believe as you do. The media puts out a lot of negative garbage and skewered polls and the mood becomes negative.

It ain’t over till it’s over.


10 posted on 10/14/2008 9:22:32 PM PDT by berdie
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To: WestFlorida

I’m not so sure McCain will win, rather Obama will lose. People are finally finding out about Obama and will shift the balance toward McCain in the coming weeks.


12 posted on 10/14/2008 9:26:11 PM PDT by Rockitz (NObama 2008- Strange we ain't believin')
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To: ROTB

BTTT !


13 posted on 10/14/2008 9:26:18 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: sageb1

The media needs to be taken to task. It’s always been this way, but people didn’t know.

It’s been so flagrant this election cycle, it can’t be ignored.

There is a “Protest The Media” thread here.


14 posted on 10/14/2008 9:26:25 PM PDT by berdie
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To: WestFlorida
we are without a doubt behind in this race.

Actually, I doubt that very much. The poll samplings have been outrageously in favor of the Democrats, in obvious hopes the McCain-leaning people will be discouraged and vote Obama, or not at all.

But I do share your sentiment!

15 posted on 10/14/2008 9:27:04 PM PDT by JennysCool (There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and the polls.)
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To: IH8LIBERALS

I contributed when Mac picked Palin. I will contribute the same amount again if he slams bambi in tomorrow’s debate. I may still contribute anyway but it will be less money. I want bambi to lose so bad he and his communist creep buds will be driven out of dodge forever.


16 posted on 10/14/2008 9:27:31 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: WestFlorida

“Let me be clear, we are without a doubt behind in this race.”

You wish.....


17 posted on 10/14/2008 9:30:40 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR....Monthly Donors Wanted)
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To: berdie

I consider myself good at poll numbers. I can handle the truth when things are bad. I knew 1996 was lost, 2004 was won.
I think we’re winning now, and for the life of me I have tried to find this coalition of 54% of the population voting for Obama, and with the exception to Paul Begala’s observations, I can’t find them. Not seniors, not working class, not men, not women, not aliens, I can’t find them.

Did anyone see Fox & Friends this morning and the Bradley effect in action? Fox Reporter was in Raleigh at a diner, asked 3 guys if they made up their mind. The first guy (an AA) said “Obama”, the next two folks said “I hadn’t decided”. My mom, whose not that much into politics called baloney on them and she said they didn’t want to get into an argument with the AA. Does anyone have this on tape? It aired around 6:10 EST this morning.


18 posted on 10/14/2008 9:30:46 PM PDT by parksstp (McCain/Palin - Vote for the future to survive the present)
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To: JennysCool
Actually, I doubt that very much.

Me too. The polls are so biased that even skeptics are starting to buy into that bambi is ahead. He isn't ahead....but he is a head. And Larry Sinclair said that..............oh never mind.

19 posted on 10/14/2008 9:32:28 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: JennysCool
The poll samplings have been outrageously in favor of the Democrats, in obvious hopes the McCain-leaning people will be discouraged and vote Obama, or not at all.

I'm starting to wonder if this might have the opposite effect.

Many of the various democrat constituencies are lazy people. Voting takes effort to wake up, get dressed and go stand in line at the polls on a cold November day. How many democrats are going to wake up, read the paper, see that their guy is up 15 points in the polls and say, "Screw it. It's cold outside. Obama has this one in the bag. I'm going back to bed!"

Kinda like that "Simpsons" episode where Bart was a shoe-in for class president except nobody bothered to go vote and Martin won instead.

20 posted on 10/14/2008 9:38:57 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: berdie

Yes, Berdie, I joined that last night. But you know what? It hasn’t always been this way. My newspaper has been published in a conservative area and only veered to the left shortly before the ‘04 election. Since then, it has been shamelessly leftist. I went back and forth with the Projects editor (16 or 17 emails) last week about his Palin/censorship article. He refuse to answer any of my questions.


21 posted on 10/14/2008 9:41:53 PM PDT by sageb1 (Feminism is dead. Long live Palinism!)
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To: WestFlorida

The only question now is whether Obama will squeak by or win in a landslide. McCain looks pathetic, he is basically toast absent a major military action or major screw-up by Obama, and neither appears likely. Even terrorist types like Osama are going to lie low, because they will fare better under Obama.


22 posted on 10/14/2008 9:41:55 PM PDT by KingofZion
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To: Drew68
Many of the various democrat constituencies are lazy people. Voting takes effort to wake up, get dressed and go stand in line at the polls on a cold November day. How many democrats are going to wake up, read the paper, see that their guy is up 15 points in the polls and say, "Screw it. It's cold outside. Obama has this one in the bag. I'm going back to bed!"

Exactly right. I would add that a lot of the Libs who have been screaming like crazy for Obama during the summer won't desert the bong in their parents' basements to get out and actually vote.

23 posted on 10/14/2008 9:48:53 PM PDT by JennysCool (There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and the polls.)
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To: KingofZion
The only question now is whether Obama will squeak by or win in a landslide.

Sure. "King of Zion" indeed.

24 posted on 10/14/2008 9:50:30 PM PDT by JennysCool (There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and the polls.)
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To: WestFlorida
We have taken their best shots and are still standing.

True. We are still standing strong. I support Gov. Palin 100% and pray for McCain daily.
25 posted on 10/14/2008 10:02:06 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson)
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To: sageb1

I have a similar situation. They, too, veered to the left. And still do to a degree.

I don’t believe my actions made any difference, but I think a lot of emails to the editor and to the ADVERTISORS made a difference.

$$$$$ talks.


26 posted on 10/14/2008 10:02:46 PM PDT by berdie
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To: ROTB; WestFlorida

I don’t know how to import this AP article currently on Yahoo:

“Activist Group defends itself against voter registration fraud allegations”

The AP defends ACORN despite the investigations revealing enormous numbers of fraudulent registrations in more than ten states. Can we beat this?


27 posted on 10/14/2008 10:07:34 PM PDT by JohnQ1 ("Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever." Oscar Wilde)
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To: WestFlorida

on television someone said Reagan was behind two weeks before the election. What turned it around?


28 posted on 10/14/2008 10:10:36 PM PDT by snowstorm12
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To: WestFlorida

I agree with you! McCain is a fighter...and I believe the independents are waiting to decide until after this next debate.IF Obama hasn’t gotten over 52 by now...after all that has happened, low approval of past Pres., Economy,stock mkt...he’s NOT going to..the....the Jewish vote should go to McCain now that Jesse Jackson stated Obama will not side with Israel. There goes a couple of percetage pts. our way....keep it up Dems!!


29 posted on 10/14/2008 10:21:08 PM PDT by IndianPrincessOK (McCain/Palin...2 pit bulls, one with lipstick! Pigs will fly with lipstick Nov. 4th)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo; WestFlorida; piytar; JennysCool

“Let me be clear, we are without a doubt behind in this race.”

WestFlorida, I see that you’re a newbie. Go sell that “...doubt...” someplace else. Trying to sow seeds of discontent? Are you basing your false assumptions on push polls, or are you just posing? The only poll I’m interested in is my kiszka-polska.


30 posted on 10/14/2008 10:54:53 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: JohnQ1; davidlachnicht; NewLand

Yes. People are focusing on ACORN more intensely.

Take FR’s “Red Squirrel Brigade” ...


31 posted on 10/14/2008 10:56:06 PM PDT by ROTB (Our Constitution [is] for a [Christian] people. It is wholly inadequate [for] any other. -John Adams)
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To: IndianPrincessOK

And I see a whole army of my countrymen here in defiance of tyranny. You have come to fight as free men, and free men you are. What would you do without freedom? Will you fight?

Fight? Against that? No, we will run; and we will live.

Aye, fight and you may die. Run and you’ll live — at least a while. And dying in your beds many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one chance to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they’ll never take our freedom!!!


32 posted on 10/14/2008 11:46:00 PM PDT by Blacksheep (Implement the voter suppression techniques now! ah............. what are they again?)
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To: WestFlorida

God Bless You-—I REALLY needed something to feel hopeful about.


33 posted on 10/15/2008 12:53:55 AM PDT by BIOCHEMKY (I love liberty more than I hate war.)
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To: IH8LIBERALS

“I sent Palin/McCain $200 tonight. Anyone else send them anything?”

So far $200 every 2 weeks ($600 total) to McCain-Palin and one-time $250 to Republican Congressional Committee-—All money well spent...

I am SURE they’re going to need every penny!


34 posted on 10/15/2008 1:02:11 AM PDT by BIOCHEMKY (I love liberty more than I hate war.)
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To: BIOCHEMKY
“I sent Palin/McCain $200 tonight. Anyone else send them anything?”

In 2004 you could send money to a 527, "Swift Boat for Truth". I would like to contribute to a 527 that would air TV ads that McCain thinks would be "disrespectful" like Wright's anti-white diatribe, that he won't hit Obama on. Can anyone give me the name of such 527's?

35 posted on 10/15/2008 1:34:08 AM PDT by tommix2
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To: berdie
My vote will be a PRO-Palin vote, and protest anti-MSM vote.... MSM ???? your going down... in a foot note in history.
36 posted on 10/15/2008 3:50:48 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: JennysCool
" Actually, I doubt that very much. The poll samplings have been outrageously in favor of the Democrats, in obvious hopes the McCain-leaning people will be discouraged and vote Obama, or not at all. "

For those Republican Chicken Little's and Hand wringers ???

WAKE UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on in and join the broken glass Republicans.
You don't know what a " Broken Glass Republican is ??
Here's a education for you.
A " Broken Glass Republican " is someone who ? ( Figuratively that is ) who will still GOTV !!! and GO VOTE on election day and night ( even after the Republican voter oppression by the MSM ) .. who would go vote even if i.e.
Rain ... Sleet ... Snow ... Earthquakes ... Tornadoes ... End of the world ... Volcanoes ... Coup Attempt by Obama and his thugs ( in which in this case is true ) ... Tsunamis ... Planets colliding ... Our Sun burns out... our Galaxy crashes into the next Galaxy .. so on and so on.
A " Broken Glass Republican " will drag themselves to the polls even if both legs are broken, craw over glass that was pour with alcohol .... that is a " Broken Glass Republican .
Screw the polls.. disregard what the MSM says..... let's tick them off and have a landslide for McMack and Sarah !!!
37 posted on 10/15/2008 4:03:46 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: IH8LIBERALS

I sent another $100 this morning.

The big RNC spending is ready to hit hard soon. If not already.


38 posted on 10/15/2008 8:47:37 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: WestFlorida
Thanks for the bump up.

Remember that in the Democratic primaries, Obama NEVER got a higher percentage than he polled. If he was polling at 47%, he never got more than 47% of the vote and often he got less. In other words, undecideds never broke for Obama, and the "Wilder Effect" was a reality in the polling.

Buck up, people. This is a concerted effort to discourage us, but it's not going to work.

39 posted on 10/15/2008 8:54:14 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Be bold. Be brave. You're an American.)
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To: snowstorm12
on television someone said Reagan was behind two weeks before the election. What turned it around?

He wasn't behind in the first place! Polls are meaningless. Anyone can say 'yes' on a poll and never vote. Polling demographics are intentionally skewed by liberal media machines and by ground level workers to favor their democrat candidate.

Reagan won by a landslide over Carter...do you really believe that all was decided in 2 weeks? We truly DO NOT KNOW until the votes are counted. This year, even that may not be enough to know the result.

I will admit it's not going to be a blowout for McCain...

40 posted on 10/15/2008 5:17:24 PM PDT by NewLand (Squirrel Brigade: now hiring to gather ACORNs)
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To: WestFlorida

We are going to win this race.


41 posted on 10/15/2008 5:20:17 PM PDT by Vision ("Test everything. Hold on to the Good." 1 Thessalonians 5:21)
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To: This Just In

If you read my post, you’ll see my opinion is that we are only a few points behind.


42 posted on 10/15/2008 6:31:17 PM PDT by WestFlorida
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To: KingofZion

Again, the internal poll numbers suggest that it is a 3-5 point race now. I don’t see either winning in a landslide.


43 posted on 10/15/2008 6:31:24 PM PDT by WestFlorida
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To: padre35

I’m not as involved as I was in 2004, but I know we have been doing precinct walks while they did not start last time until two weeks out. I was called by a campaign staffer asking if I would be voting for McCain, even though I have a cell phone, so their records are pretty updated. The precinct walks are mapped with a question list, which they did not have last time. And at the rally McCain had in Tampa, staffers were passing out cards asking for us to text our cell phone numbers to a certain number if we are willing to vounteer. All of these things are new and were not done in 2004.


44 posted on 10/15/2008 7:07:56 PM PDT by WestFlorida
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To: WestFlorida

That is good to hear, especially with the two weeks to go time frame.


45 posted on 10/15/2008 7:38:52 PM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: WestFlorida

I obviously read your post. I quoted you, or did you miss that detail?

And I’ll quote you again, “Let me be clear, we are without a doubt behind in this race.”

Well, that would depend on the polls and “few points” you’re referring to. The emphases is on your emphases.


46 posted on 10/15/2008 8:01:06 PM PDT by This Just In
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