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The treasure trove making waves
BBC ^ | 18 oct 2008 | Simon Worrall

Posted on 10/19/2008 2:10:38 AM PDT by csvset

Ten years ago, at a spot known locally as "Black Rock", two men diving for sea cucumbers came across a large pile of sand and coral.

Digging a hole, they reached in and pulled out a barnacle-encrusted bowl. Then another. And another.

They had stumbled on the oldest, most important, marine archaeological discovery ever made in South East Asia, an Arab dhow - or ship - built of teak, coconut wood and hibiscus fibre, packed with a treasure that Indiana Jones could only dream of.

There were 63,000 pieces of gold, silver and ceramics from the fabled Tang dynasty, which flourished between the seventh and 10th centuries.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; treasure
Treasure!
1 posted on 10/19/2008 2:10:39 AM PDT by csvset
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG ping


2 posted on 10/19/2008 2:11:30 AM PDT by csvset
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To: csvset

Very nice...


3 posted on 10/19/2008 2:17:45 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Is Obamanation what our founding fathers, our fallen men in combat, and Ronald Reagan had in mind?)
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To: csvset
Big deal. Which Bush Doctrine?

;-/

4 posted on 10/19/2008 2:50:25 AM PDT by Gargantua ("...but Daddy... he doesn't even look like a president....")
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To: csvset
Rather amazing find.

However, I have a bone to pick with the writer.

" The Arab dhow, the first of its kind ever found, proves something equally startling - that mariners from the Persian Gulf were trading on a scale, and over distances, unmatched by human beings until Vasco da Gama set sail for India at the end of the 15th Century. Sinbad the Sailor was for real."

This twit makes it sound as though all of the coast between the Persian Gulf and China were unoccupied lands. Alexander the Great made it to India a thousand years before Mad Mo' established his murderous pederastic cult.

These writers don't have enough common sense to understand basics of trade. Neighbor A sells/trades goods to neighbor B. Neighbor B sells/trades goods to neighbor C, who spots something that catches his eye and says," Hey B, where did that whatchamacallit come from? Never seen anything like it. Man I could make a fortune selling this new stuff to Neighbor D".

...and so on. And pretty soon every one wants to cut out the middle man. I GOT to get me a boat!

5 posted on 10/19/2008 3:14:54 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: csvset
China mass-produced export goods centuries earlier than first thought

Sadly, the ship contained a shipment of ancient chinese mass produced toys intended for sale around the world. As a result, the area around the ship has been deemed a global health hazard due to the numerous toxic components used in them.

6 posted on 10/19/2008 7:20:13 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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7 posted on 10/19/2008 3:55:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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One of the Changsha bowls bore a date stamp, "the 16th Day of the seventh Month of the second Year of the Baoli reign", or AD 826. Carbon-14 analysis of some star anise found in the wreck confirmed this as the probable date of the dhow's departure from China.

In 2005, the Singapore government paid more than £20m to acquire the treasure as the centrepiece for a new maritime museum.

I wonder who ended up with the money?

8 posted on 10/19/2008 4:24:37 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Covenantor
Saw a 150+- foot dhow trading in Sri Lanka in the 1990’s.
I saw them at sea and coming into port, handling their sails & climbing the mast & boom. I felt I was watching history.

Ditto on the writer's perception. I saw an article where a writer was excited about the green flash phenomena's claiming it was a new discovery. Mariners have seen the sun flash green at sunset as long as there have been mariners.

9 posted on 10/19/2008 4:54:30 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: csvset

Hibiscus fibre?


10 posted on 10/19/2008 5:22:49 PM PDT by curmudgeonII (Vocatus atque non vocatus deus aderit.)
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To: curmudgeonII

In the ancient world, a high fiber muffin.


11 posted on 10/19/2008 7:09:49 PM PDT by DariusBane (I've got a bracelet too :))
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To: Cold Heart

Funny how connections are made.

After re-reading your post, I thought to search for dhow construction. And that lead me to this page.
http://nabataea.net/ships.html

Where one finds that:

“Contemporary records prove without a doubt that during the third millennium BC, Babylon carried on extensive overseas trade through the Persian Gulf southward to the east African coast and eastward to India. Hardly anything is known about the vessels used on these ambitious runs other than that they were very small; the largest mentioned has a capacity of some 28 tons. “

So that trade, documented at least as far as India, existed nearly 3,000 years before. From India to the Mallaca straits is just another haul.

Then there is the interesting thing mentioned in the article and confirmed in the link. This dhow, as well as many others, typically was constructed of TEAK. Teak doesn’t and didn’t grow anywhere near the Persian gulf nor east Africa. It does grow in India and south east Asia. So it is highly doubtful that this dhow was constructed by arabs. Nor does the author provide any reason to assume that the owners and crew were arabs.

Final grade for this Beeb article = F

research - piss poor
photos - really poor
dhimmi groveling - satisfactory, could rise to an A, if author implied that Zionist elders/Mossad sank the dhow to keep the Palestinians down.


12 posted on 10/20/2008 2:58:26 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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