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Palin's environmental policy can be judged by Wasilla
Herald Tribune.com ^
| 10/20/08
| MATT APUZZO
Posted on 10/20/2008 11:55:22 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
WASILLA, Alaska - Long before John McCain made Gov. Sarah Palin his running mate and before her views on global warming became a campaign issue, Palin's environmental priorities were crystallized in a city where she was mayor and where development has long trumped conservation. ............. more at site.
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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: elections; greens; palin; palinhit; palinrecord; wasilla
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To: DoughtyOne
Well, at least the rabid environmentalists would be happy. In theory, but frankly the useful idiots are usually the first to go.
See my cool new tag-line!
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posted on
10/20/2008 1:04:18 PM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(If Barack Obama is Vladamir Lenin, Bill Ayers will be Leon Trotsky.)
To: Carry_Okie
Hey I like it.
Oh I don’t know about that weasel brigade. Once the bad guys take power, they have no power left. Their leaders might need to go, but most of these idiots would be lost without them.
The rule of thumb is to eliminate anyone who could participate in a counter revolution, so you have to keep that in mind I suppose.
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posted on
10/20/2008 1:13:20 PM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(Is Obamanation what our founding fathers, our fallen men in combat, and Ronald Reagan had in mind?)
To: Bringbackthedraft
The article starts right off with a whopper: "Dozens of strip malls sprung up along the city's two glacial lakes. The costs of such fast -- and sometimes haphazard -- growth can be seen even from Palin's lakefront home. Once-pristine Lake Lucille is plagued by high levels of phosphorous, which chokes off oxygen from the salmon and trout. Scientists put the blame on nearby development." Curiously enough it seems that 2005 was the latest sampling down by the state and this was written: "3.3 Nutrients Nutrient samples were collected from all locations during the four sampling events of 2005. All three sites had a sample collected from a depth of one meter. LL-3 also had a second, deeper sample collected. Nutrient results are summarized in the data tables in Attachment D and are discussed below. Phosphorus Total phosphorus and ortho-phosphate detections above laboratory reporting limits (100 mg/L and 400 mg/L, respectively) were infrequent and most detected concentrations were flagged by the laboratory as estimates. Detected total phosphorus concentrations ranged from 0.04 to 0.36 mg/L. Detected ortho-phosphate concentrations ranged from 0.13 to 0.25 mg/L. Table 9 and Figure 6 show results for ortho-phosphate and total phosphorous. Neither dissolved orthophosphate nor total phosphorus has an AWQS. Historical levels of total phosphorus at Lake Lucille fall well below the laboratorys detection limits: previous studies report levels averaging between 19.5 and 21 μg/L (ADEC, 2002). Due to such low levels, requesting a lower detection limit may benefit future monitoring. However, attaining detection limits within the range of historical levels can be difficult. For instance, in a similar water-quality monitoring study at Big Lake (OASIS, 2006), lower detection limits were requested because they were also well above the lakes historic levels (8-20 μg/L for total phosphorus, 1-8 μg/L for ortho-phosphate; Woods, 1992). The lab was able to lower the limits by approximately 70%. The resulting detection limits were 31 μg/L for total phosphorus and 120 μg/L for ortho-phosphate, which unfortunately were still too high to adequately monitor phosphorus levels in Big Lake." In other words, the equipment being used couldn't measure concentrations below .012 mg/l so it is hard to understand how the 2002 report was stated to have readings in ug/l. Looking farter down, one sees that out of five areas sampled, only four had "high" readings of Phosphorus and another bar chart only shows four. Dissolved oxygen was well within the growth and progagation range for fish however. Samplings were from May to Oct at about 45 day intervals Dissolved oxygen varies inversely to water temperature as is to be expected. If the 2002 numbers are to be believed the total phosphorus has indeed increased but not to a level expected to cause any harm to either water creatures or to any drinking water pulled from the lake.
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posted on
10/20/2008 1:35:12 PM PDT
by
Old Professer
(The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
To: Bringbackthedraft
The article starts right off with a whopper:
"Dozens of strip malls sprung up along the city's two glacial lakes.
The costs of such fast -- and sometimes haphazard -- growth can be seen even from Palin's lakefront home. Once-pristine Lake Lucille is plagued by high levels of phosphorous, which chokes off oxygen from the salmon and trout. Scientists put the blame on nearby development."
Curiously enough it seems that 2005 was the latest sampling down by the state and this was written:
"3.3 Nutrients Nutrient samples were collected from all locations during the four sampling events of 2005. All three sites had a sample collected from a depth of one meter. LL-3 also had a second, deeper sample collected. Nutrient results are summarized in the data tables in Attachment D and are discussed below.
Phosphorus
Total phosphorus and ortho-phosphate detections above laboratory reporting limits (100 mg/L and 400 mg/L, respectively) were infrequent and most detected concentrations were flagged by the laboratory as estimates. Detected total phosphorus concentrations ranged from 0.04 to 0.36 mg/L. Detected ortho-phosphate concentrations ranged from 0.13 to 0.25 mg/L
Table 9 and Figure 6 show results for ortho-phosphate and total phosphorous. Neither dissolved orthophosphate nor total phosphorus has an AWQS.
Historical levels of total phosphorus at Lake Lucille fall well below the laboratorys detection limits: previous studies report levels averaging between 19.5 and 21 μg/L (ADEC, 2002). Due to such low levels, requesting a lower detection limit may benefit future monitoring.
However, attaining detection limits within the range of historical levels can be difficult. For instance, in a similar water-quality monitoring study at Big Lake (OASIS, 2006), lower detection limits were requested because they were also well above the lakes historic levels (8-20 μg/L for total phosphorus, 1-8 μg/L for ortho-phosphate; Woods, 1992). The lab was able to lower the limits by approximately 70%. The resulting detection limits were 31 μg/L for total phosphorus and 120 μg/L for ortho-phosphate, which unfortunately were still too high to adequately monitor phosphorus levels in Big Lake."
In other words, the equipment being used couldn't measure concentrations below .012 mg/l so it is hard to understand how the 2002 report was stated to have readings in ug/l.
Looking farter down, one sees that out of five areas sampled, only four had "high" readings of Phosphorus and another bar chart only shows four.
Dissolved oxygen was well within the growth and progagation range for fish however.
Samplings were from May to Oct at about 45 day intervals
Dissolved oxygen varies inversely to water temperature as is to be expected.
If the 2002 numbers are to be believed the total phosphorus has indeed increased but not to a level expected to cause any harm to either water creatures or to any drinking water pulled from the lake.
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posted on
10/20/2008 1:38:43 PM PDT
by
Old Professer
(The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
To: Bringbackthedraft; WL-law; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; enough_idiocy; rdl6989; ...
To: DoughtyOne
I firmly believe that is the explanation. It is just too outrageous for the ordinary sheeple to believe. (ironicly enough since they believe every kook conspiracy theory made into a movie) But if you follow politics closely enough it is simply a rational conclusion. Time and again economists and conservatives sounded the warning, time and again policies were enacted against that advice.
The Democrat/RINO "No Domestic Energy Policy!"
- No domestic drilling.
- No new refineries.
- No new nuke plants.
- No new dams for hydro-electric.
- No coal.
- No shale.
- Deplete the SPR.
- Let Iran get nukes.
- Let Iraq fall to Iranian domination.
- No Canadian tar sands oil.
All of that puts the U.S. in a position that war for oil or
complete economic collapse will be our only choices. Maybe that's the point!?!
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posted on
10/20/2008 2:30:19 PM PDT
by
TigersEye
(Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
To: TigersEye
The commies can’t wait to see the foremost capitalist society go belly up. Anything they can do to help, is so much the better.
You’ve pointed out their energy policies. They sabotage our success at every opportunity. If businesses show profits, they seek to take as much of those profits as they can.
They reward sloth and tax productivity.
It’s a strange thing to take in isn’t it.
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posted on
10/20/2008 2:45:28 PM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(Is Obamanation what our founding fathers, our fallen men in combat, and Ronald Reagan had in mind?)
To: Bringbackthedraft
She started a committee to address global warming. But with oil companies contributing the largest percentage of the state's greenhouse gases, (which is no surprise given the very small population in AK)
her committee set no goal for reducing emissions.(which is completely irrelevant to Climate Change)
Palin gave people what they wanted: jobs that did not require an hourlong commute to Anchorage, 44 miles to the south, or monthlong stints on the frigid North Slope oil fields.
So, Palin didn't put some useless words hoping to change greenhouse emissions on a useless committee document but she did take actions that led to less emissions. (which is completely irrelevant to Climate Change)
What has 0bambi ever done to decrease irrelevant greenhouse emissions? 0
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posted on
10/20/2008 2:57:28 PM PDT
by
TigersEye
(Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
To: DoughtyOne
It is amazing. It is unconscionable. It is infuriating.
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posted on
10/20/2008 3:01:09 PM PDT
by
TigersEye
(Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
Unlike other states, Alaska's climate change priority is focused on ways to adapt to warmer temperatures.One out of fifty states has a rational climate policy. Pathetic!
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posted on
10/20/2008 3:03:41 PM PDT
by
TigersEye
(Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
To: TigersEye
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posted on
10/20/2008 3:06:33 PM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(Is Obamanation what our founding fathers, our fallen men in combat, and Ronald Reagan had in mind?)
To: luckymom
"Whats a BANANA?"BANANA=Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything!!!
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posted on
10/20/2008 4:09:46 PM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(Hey Colin Powell...Fidel Castro and Che Gueverra were "transformational figures" too, you idiot!!!)
Geeze... I step out for a couple of hours and look what happens... I don’t read the whole thread and find out that others are competing to answer one simple little question... Oh well...
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posted on
10/20/2008 4:17:09 PM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(Hey Colin Powell...Fidel Castro and Che Gueverra were "transformational figures" too, you idiot!!!)
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