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McCain's path to victory through Pa.
The Politico ^ | October 22, 2008 | Charles Mahtesian

Posted on 10/22/2008 4:46:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

On FOX this morning, they said that someone had leaked the Obama camp’s internal polling which showed them ahead by only 2 points. Also, fast Eddie has asked Obama to come back to campaign. That doesn’t show a lot of confidence on their part.


21 posted on 10/22/2008 5:23:43 PM PDT by Ikemeister
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To: Ikemeister

Or it’s major psych-ops.


22 posted on 10/22/2008 5:26:45 PM PDT by CatOwner
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To: TexasNative2000
I am of the belief that Mac will take Ohio and Florida.

He can win but it would be pretty hard.

Mac would need to take the following to win: OH, FL, NC, MO, ND, Nevada. That by itself would be a task in itself (that makes it 265), but then he'd also need to add one more to get him over the top and so he's have to also add CO or PA.

Its hard to read the polls here in CO but people seem to think he's behind?

I know he's been fairly popular in NH, but with only 4 electoral votes he'd have a tie at 279?

That is if my math is adding up?

Either way its going to be one tough task, but I honestly feel he's allot closer than the media and pollsters are letting on and think he just might make it happen. My wife and I are doing what we can to help out here in CO, making phone calls and helping the cause.

23 posted on 10/22/2008 5:39:09 PM PDT by R0CK3T
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To: R0CK3T

I meant to add that VA is in my assessment for McCain.


24 posted on 10/22/2008 5:41:29 PM PDT by R0CK3T
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To: R0CK3T
In your scenario, if he takes NH, they tie at 269.

That's why McCain-Palin is targeting Maine. They split their electoral votes - 2 for statewide winner, 1 for each of their two congressional districts. If McCain wins one of the CD's, he gets that one elector.

Imagine. It could come down to a few hundred moose hunters in Northern Maine.....

25 posted on 10/22/2008 5:42:24 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Be bold. Be brave. You're an American.)
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To: TexasNative2000
WOW - did not know that?

Get those billboards up their with Sarah bagging a big one! That would be a stunning way to win if he can't get into the CO or PA race!

26 posted on 10/22/2008 5:46:32 PM PDT by R0CK3T
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To: R0CK3T
That's why McPalin announced they were going to forego Michigan in favor of Maine. They have 4 electoral votes and they could split 3 for Obama, 1 for McCain. Under your scenario, McCain wins 270-268.

Maine instituted this process in response to Bush/Gore 2000. Wouldn't it be sweet if THAT elected McCain?

27 posted on 10/22/2008 5:50:56 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Be bold. Be brave. You're an American.)
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The McCain List.

A very, very interesting article. The Democrats seem to be pinning their hope on the carrying the suburban Philadelphia counties. I'm not so sure! :-)

28 posted on 10/22/2008 5:52:19 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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I've had the opportunity to drive along the Maine coastline multiple times the last 10 days, and over these trips more and more McCain/Palin signs are sprouting all over Sagadahoc, Lincoln, and even Cumberland county each day. Momentum is in our favor! Will have a look at York county tomorrow.
29 posted on 10/22/2008 5:52:34 PM PDT by Shqipo (McCain/Palin rallies.... No rock bands required.)
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To: Norman Bates

Thanks!


30 posted on 10/22/2008 5:58:39 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: R0CK3T

Here’s how I break it down for McCain’s path to victory:

1) McCain has 163 electoral votes virtually in the bag. This includes 21 states: Alabama (9), Alaska (3), Arizona (10), Arkansas (6), Georgia (15), Idaho (4), Kansas (6), Kentucky (8), Louisiana (9), Mississippi (6), Montana (3), Nebraska (5), North Dakota (3), Oklahoma (7), South Carolina (8), South Dakota (3), Tennessee (11), Texax (34), Utah (5), West Virginia (5), and Wyoming (3).

2) This means McCain needs to somehow deliver 107 more electoral votes. In my opinion, McCain can win 111 votes by winning only states Bush won in both 2000 and 2004. This would include winning the following states: Ohio (20), Florida (27), Colorado (9), Virginia (13), Missouri (11), Nevada (5), Indiana (11), and North Carolina (15). This is still very achievable, although I only have 100% confidence in Florida, Indiana, and North Carolina. `

3) My analysis assumes that Iowa and New Mexico are gone and that McCain won’t win a single Kerry state. His top targets that remain would be Pennsylvania and New Hampshire is a long shot at best. Winning Pennsylvania would be huge for McCain, but I can’t get past the belief that is it a lost cause. I think this talk of internal polls showing a 2 point Obama lead and Rendell asking him to come to the state is a set up. McCain should abandon Pennsylvania and focus on Colorado, Virginia, and Nevada, places where Republicans have had better success in recent elections.


31 posted on 10/22/2008 6:01:22 PM PDT by zebrahead
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To: Norman Bates

Yet another article about McCain having a shot in PA. Makes me think there is indeed something going on here. Rendell and Murtha’s comments sure sound like they are nervous about the state. Would be wild if McCain took it, though unfortunately even that does not guarantee him the election if he loses VA, CO and even NC.


32 posted on 10/22/2008 6:04:11 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: HamiltonJay

Tell me about Delaware, Bucks, and Montgomery andour expectations there. What about Erie and Pittsburgh?


33 posted on 10/22/2008 6:13:40 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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In the case of Pennsylvania, I think McCain is toast and should cease any spending there. I think Bush proved this in 2004. He seemed obsessed at times in trying to win Pennsylvania and even with the greatest Republican turnout EVER in the state’s history, Bush still lost by 145,000 votes. In my opinion, the only thing that mattered in 2004 in Pennsylvania was how Philadelphia and its suburbs voted. Philadelphia county alone gave John Kerry a 412,000 vote lead in 2004. He carried the county with 81% of the vote. Philadelphia also has 7 ring counties with over 100,000 voters in each county. Kerry won these collective counties (Montgomery, Delaware, Bucks, Lehigh, Berks, Chester, and Northampton) by a margin of 81,435 votes, giving him nearly a half million vote lead just from winning Philadelphia and its suburbs. Throw in Allegheny county, home of Pittsburgh, and its margin of 96,987 votes for Kerry and not even record Republican turnout in places like Lancaster and York counties could make enough of a dent for Bush to win.

With Democratic registrations way up and the bloodbath that was 2006, when Santorum and about 5 Republican congressman lost their seats, I don’t see much reason to be optimistic. Pennsylvania is fool’s gold to me. Maybe the idea is to make your opponent spend time and money in a particular state but all Obama really has to do is hold a massive rally in Philly with Bill Clinton two weeks before the election and Pennsylvania will be safely in his pocket. That’s pretty much all John Kerry did to win the state in 2004. The only thing that could be giving the McCain camp hope is Obama’s poor showing in the primary, but the sheer numbers in favor of the Democrats are too much to overcome.


34 posted on 10/22/2008 6:23:25 PM PDT by zebrahead
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*** Philly Metro/Delaware Valley Ping *****


35 posted on 10/22/2008 6:40:28 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (All things shall be well; You shall see for yourself that all manner of things shall be well)
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To: Norman Bates

Pittsburgh region is clearly is not supporting Fauxbama, I’m sure he’ll win the city proper, but the rest of the region, wouldn’t hold my breath. Eastern PA, from what I hear from folks there, the support is equally as lackluster for the chosen one. Erie as well, the city will probably go for Faux, but the region won’t.


36 posted on 10/22/2008 6:52:12 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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ping


37 posted on 10/22/2008 6:54:51 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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To: HamiltonJay

How about the bitter clinger comments? Are they being played up? Seems like McCain or some 527 should do an ad with these negative comments in areas where it could do some good. Not only in PA either. Should play well in OH, VA, WV, IN and more.


38 posted on 10/22/2008 7:09:20 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: TNCMAXQ

Haven’t seen any 527’s on the air honestly, other than the NRA ads, only ads on TV I have seen are RNC and McCain. Though I don’t have cable so they may be active there.

The comments are on talk radio daily.

I’m not worried folks, McCain is taking PA.


39 posted on 10/22/2008 7:10:46 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Pennsylvania will be won or lost for Barack Obama in the Philly suburbs,”

HAHAHAHA Let them keep believing that... Fauxbama will not take PA.. and he's got problems even in the PHilly Burbs from those I talk to out that way as well.

40 posted on 10/22/2008 7:12:57 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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