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McCain's path to victory through Pa.
The Politico ^ | October 22, 2008 | Charles Mahtesian

Posted on 10/22/2008 4:46:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: TAdams8591

Working phone banks in the Philly suburbs in 2004 made me think that Republicans there would welcome Satan as a change from Bush...and I’m sure that the 2005-2008 record has just made that worse. I think the suburbs are going to go Obama.

I also wish I could have done more. Problem is, it’s difficult to get people fired up to support John McCain. It’s more a fight against Obama. Fred Thompson, Rudy Guiliani, Ron Paul, or another, would have been a different story.


61 posted on 10/22/2008 9:57:28 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: impeachedrapist
If she truly is ill, then I don’t blame him for going.

If she is truly ill, why the delay in seeing her, while doing a dance on Ellen Degenerates show?

62 posted on 10/22/2008 9:58:03 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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To: snarkytart
I’ll take PA has a nice cherry on top!

It would be sweet!

63 posted on 10/22/2008 9:58:41 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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To: sgtyork

Two union people in my house voting Mccain/Palin.


64 posted on 10/22/2008 10:04:23 PM PDT by linn37 (Phlebotomists need love too.)
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To: zebrahead

your wrong about pa, he can take it and he will! I live in pa i see what is going on,


65 posted on 10/23/2008 1:56:05 AM PDT by TinaJeannes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ah yes, KYW and the Inquirer tell me every day that Obama has this insurmountable lead. Now that’s what I call a “Rhetorical Flourish”.

Hero or Zero, it’s that simple.


66 posted on 10/23/2008 4:12:34 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: Tribune7

Thanks for the ping.


67 posted on 10/23/2008 4:58:20 AM PDT by GOPJ (Redistribution means dem victim groups get YOUR MONEY.)
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To: zebrahead
but the sheer numbers in favor of the Democrats are too much to overcome.

That's just not the case. Your concern about PA is understandable. I still have some doubts, but with each day I'm more convinced that not only is Obama hurting in PA, but his numbers are a drag on the 5 or so competitive House races (which is another very good reason to be spending so much time and energy in PA).

68 posted on 10/23/2008 5:36:27 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: Norman Bates

Yea, I don’t know who this zebrahead guy is, but its clearly evident he isn’t living in PA. McCain has PA in the bag, and has from day one. He’s buying into national polling and pundent info that has been off about this state drastically since day one.

Fauxbama has no chance of carrying PA.


69 posted on 10/23/2008 6:16:50 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: impeachedrapist

Fauxbama has gone from 26% of his adds being negative to something like 78% of his ads being negative... you don’t do that when you are winning folks. Fauxbama is done, and he’ll lose PA.

OH voter fraud is the only real issue left in this campaign that could threaten McCain/Palin winning.


70 posted on 10/23/2008 6:22:13 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

Oh it will, McCain’s winning this thing and HOPEFULLY we’ll finally have a voice for this region in DC in appreciation that might actually finally help this region out. That’s not why I’m voting or anyone else is voting for McCain, but hopefully when he wins he’ll remember SWPA. We’ve been the bastard child of state government for 30 years, and all but ignored nationally.


71 posted on 10/23/2008 6:24:50 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
Fauxbama has gone from 26% of his adds being negative to something like 78% of his ads being negative

I was just thinking yesterday that he had to really go all-out negative soon. I don't doubt what you're saying at all, but where did you find the stats?

As you said, people don't go full negative when they're ahead.

72 posted on 10/23/2008 6:24:52 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom; HamiltonJay; smoothsailing; jazusamo
I think it is rather fitting that much maligned southwestern Pennsylvania, the buckle of the rust belt, home of the knuckle dragging, racist, bitter, redneck religious, gun nut, clingers, might just be the place to drag John McCain across the victory line. Ironic, huh?

And the beauty of that is that it just might also remove the treasonous Jack Murtha from his seat. Yes, Russell's still an underdog. But his name recognition is shooting up and interest in him is peaking specifically because of Murtha's arrogance. A GOP poll showed Murtha with a decent 14-point lead over Russell, before the "racist" and "redneck" remarks. The key point, though, was the Mr. 17-term Incumbent couldn't break 50% before he further insulted his constituents.

And Melissa Hart is in much better shape now to win her seat back. (No, haven't seen any recent polls)

73 posted on 10/23/2008 6:29:37 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: impeachedrapist

This was reported by a callin on the Quinn and Rose show this morning, guy who calls in regularly out of Columbus. I forget his name, but he’s involved somehow in the campaign for sure based on the info he hands out.


74 posted on 10/23/2008 6:37:20 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

Is there a thread on this crazy new poll

As the race for the White House enters its final days, the Big Ten Battleground Poll shows Barack Obama holds significant leads over John McCain in eight crucial Midwest states.

The individual surveys of between 562 and 586 randomly selected registered voters and those likely to register to vote before the election in each of the states were conducted by phone with live interviewers from Oct. 19-22 and were co-directed by University of Wisconsin-Madison political scientists Charles Franklin and Ken Goldstein with the cooperation of colleagues from participating Big Ten universities. The polls each have a margin of error of 4.2 percentage points. The states included in the poll were Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois and Minnesota, home to the 11 universities in the Big Ten conference.

Those states were key battlegrounds in the 2004 election, and last month the Big Ten Battleground Poll showed a tight race in all of those states but Illinois, which Obama represents in the U.S. Senate. The first poll was taken just as the U.S. financial crisis first intensified and before the massive decline in the stock market, when McCain was enjoying his highest poll numbers of the campaign in the Big Ten and nationally.

“In September, we saw virtually the entire Big Ten as a battleground,” said Franklin, co-developer of Pollster.com. “Now Obama is clearly winning the Big Ten battleground. The dominance of the economy as a top issue for voters is the overwhelming story.”

The new Big Ten poll shows Obama ahead in every Big Ten state, including Indiana, where McCain held a slight edge in September, and Ohio and Pennsylvania, where last month’s poll results showed the two candidates in a dead heat.

Head-to-head results for individual states

Illinois Obama 61% McCain 32%
Indiana Obama 51% McCain 41%
Iowa Obama 52% McCain 39%
Michigan Obama 58% McCain 36%
Minnesota Obama 57% McCain 38%
Ohio Obama 53% McCain 41%
Pennsylvania Obama 52% McCain 41%
Wisconsin Obama 53% McCain 40%
The poll also included a nationally representative sample of 1,014 respondents, with a margin of error of 3.1 percentage points. That survey shows Obama with a 9-point margin over McCain, 52 percent to 43 percent.

“With the fundamental factors so to their advantage, this election was always about Barack Obama and the Democrats reaching a threshold level of credibility with voters,” said Goldstein, a UW-Madison political science professor. “It appears Obama has and this race has popped nationally and here in the Big Ten.”


75 posted on 10/23/2008 6:38:53 AM PDT by MikeFrancesa.com (www.war69.com)
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To: impeachedrapist

I haven’t seen a poll with Hart since before she started her push, but she was only down 5 then and that was with Altmire all over the place and her nowhere. Now that she’s out there, I have to believe she’s at least even if not ahead.

I figured Altmire would be a 1 termer when he got elected, hopefully that will be vindicated. He’s a puppet for Pelosi, nothing more.


76 posted on 10/23/2008 6:39:13 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Nearly everyone in a position to know thinks the race for Pennsylvania’s 21 electoral votes is considerably tighter than what recent polls reveal.

Frankly, nearly everyone in the position to know (except the MSM) thinks the race in general is considerably tighter than what recent polls reveal.

77 posted on 10/23/2008 6:43:24 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: MikeFrancesa.com

Indiana Obama 51% McCain 41%
Minnesota Obama 57% McCain 38%
Ohio Obama 53% McCain 41%
Pennsylvania Obama 52% McCain 41%
Wisconsin Obama 53% McCain 40%

Well, I won’t speak to IL, IA and MI, as I think the numbers that are offered there are grossly off the finals, but Fauxbama will almost certainly take them at the end of the day. IA clearly isn’t going to come to its senses and will continue to put free money from the gubment ahead of sound leadership, and MI may turn up a suprise, but as I’m not on the ground there, can’t say. It could be the other rust belt state that will flip other than PA, but, won’t argue it other than it won’t go Fauxbama by anywhere near the 22 points this poll claims.

As to the rest, IN is going McCain solidly, claiming otherwise is laughable. MN may or may not flip, but it certainly won’t go to Fauxbama by 19. OH? Please, its solidly R, the only chance it has of flipping is voter fraud, (and I don’t think it will) and then it would only be the smallest of margins. WI by 13? No way in hell, honestly I think WI is probably the most likely of the other rust belt states to flip with PA this year.. it may not, but it certainly won’t go Fauxbama by more than a slim margin.

I don’t know who published this poll but they CLEARLY are out there smoking some pretty good stuff if they expect anyone to take this seriously. This is either a complete propoganda piece (likely) or the methodology is so bad, that I’d suspect it was a bunch of grad students trying some new math out with this poll, its not remotely credible at all.


78 posted on 10/23/2008 6:45:55 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: prairiebreeze

Barone is an inside the Beltway Idiot Also he supported & Voted for McGovern in 72 Check out his Wikipedia profile


79 posted on 10/23/2008 9:22:32 AM PDT by PaRep
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To: zebrahead
...all Obama really has to do is hold a massive rally in Philly with Bill Clinton two weeks before the election and Pennsylvania will be safely in his pocket...

Um, two weeks before the election was two days ago. No 0bama rally. I think that's what Fast Eddie's trying to say. 0bama's blowing it in PA.

I'm in the solid red part of PA, and I'm seeing the McCain/Palin signs thicker than I've ever seen for anything, plus they are deployed with a palpable sense of defiance (huge signs, multiple signs in one yard, etc.) that seems to indicate above-normal levels of passion.

80 posted on 10/23/2008 9:44:05 AM PDT by LikeLight (http://www.believersguidetolegalissues.com)
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