Posted on 10/22/2008 4:46:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
I have had PA as a red state this whole election season, Hillary crushed him in the primaries, add in the “bitter clingers” and you’ve got an uphill battle for Obama. The attacks on Joe The Plumber sealed his fate.
We recently moved to OKC, but have retained our house and business in Denver. We fly back and forth each week. Because of Colorado being a swing state, we stayed registered there. Today we voted early. One of our biggest fears was Denver would get a horrendous storm before we could fly in and vote on Nov. 4th. Just could not take the chance. I feel so much better now.
TC
I disagree. Rove thinks McCain will do better than Bush in the ring counties of Philly (I have gotten the impression there is a lot of race politics in the suburbs). There is also polling to substantiate that Obama is underperforming Kerry in Pittsburgh. McCain can be expected to do better in Scranton-WB as well.
As for the 2006 analogy, Obama is no Bob Casey Jr. and will not be seen as a Bob Casey Jr. in PA. Casey cut into the “T” - Obama won’t. I doubt Obama will do as well as Casey did in the Philly suburbs.
The case for winning PA is very credible. I think you are wrong to write off NM as well.
Share your thoughts.
Fast Eddie went public with his 'please come back to PA Barrack' spiel because that gives Rendell cover with the party (I knew we needed him to come back...geez, Hill and Bill did). The same way uber loyalist, John Murtha, has called SW PA racist and redneck? Is Johnny off his meds or going senile...no. He is merely covering his own porked ar$e so after the election he can come out and say 'see I told you they wouldn't vote for 0bama...they're racist.' The internal polls the Dems have must be in the toilet for these two come out and give pre-emptive excuses.
Anecdotally, at work and socially there are one or two (in each group) that are so in awe of The One that they have to 'share' his glory with all within earshot. After their 'sharing' the messianic message...there is (consistantly) a network of 'hushed whispers.' 'I'm not voting for him...she's nuts.' Again, and again. PA is going red.
Someone leaked an alleged internal poll from the Obama campaign which shows him up by only two points.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2112600/posts
Clearly, the McCain campaign wouldn’t be stumping in Western Pennsylvania if their internal numbers showed Obama leading by double digit margins. And the McCain camp isn’t paying their pollsters to lie to them.
I think it is rather fitting that much maligned southwestern Pennsylvania, the buckle of the rust belt, home of the knuckle dragging, racist, bitter, redneck religious, gun nut, clingers, might just be the place to drag John McCain across the victory line. Ironic, huh?
On Bill Bennett this morning a caller who works with Philly unions said that the rank and file are now supporting Obama. They see the Socialism and disapprove. Tough to drive get out the vote and fraud efforts without unions.
On Bill Bennett this morning a caller who works with Philly unions said that the rank and file are now supporting Obama. They see the Socialism and disapprove. Tough to drive get out the vote and fraud efforts without unions.
Those two statements seem contradictory.
I questioned it as well. I would really like clarification on this. Teachers unions, SEIU, AFSCME, yes...but your average Teamster or ironworker, no.
I am really angry I didn't have more time to help!
Ooops.. Shouldn’t post this late at night. Meant to say NOT supporting Obama.
oops typo... now should be not...
We’re in Upper Dublin Township, Montgomery County. I’m seeing more and more McCain signs. They seem more numerous than what we saw for Bush in 2004, and that the Obama signs are fewer than we saw for Gore, Kerry or Hillary. In addition to McCain/Palin signs, there are a great many signs for Todd Stephens, which indicates local Republican support. I think some folks just don’t want to put out McCain signs because they are concerned about vandalism. There are a lot of American flags flying. I suspect some of these are conservative voters who are keeping a low profile. I’ve never seen an Obama sign in front of a home flying the flag. I don’t believe Obama is ahead by double digits in PA.
My husband saw a Michael Barone segment on FoxNews where Barone predicted it could come down to Maine and...Nebraska. Which surprised me.
Unfortunately I didn’t see the segment but my husband is certain he heard correctly. And I pay attention to Barone’s electoral analysis.
As long as McCain does better than Bush in Montgomery County that’s a good starting point for victory.
FRegards, PaMom
Read the entire statement.
If they split, it goes to other states to decide.
So what he was saying was correct, if McCain gets Penn. and holds Fl. he will win.
If Obama gets Fl. and holds Penn. he win.
If they split the two, the election will hinge on other States such as Ohio and Col.
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