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FEC joins call to throw out suit against Obama (Berg's challenge of BHO's citizenship)
The Morning Call (Allentown, PA) ^ | 10/22/08 | Kevin Amerman

Posted on 10/23/2008 7:18:55 AM PDT by Born Conservative

The Federal Election Commission has joined Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee in asking a federal judge to dismiss a lawsuit filed by a Montgomery County attorney seeking Obama's ouster from the November ballot.

Philip Berg, who claims the Illinois senator was born in Kenya and can't run for president because he isn't a natural-born U.S. citizen, has no standing to make the claim, according to the FEC.

The motion, filed Tuesday in U.S. District Court in Philadelphia, echoes one filed last month by Obama and the DNC that states Berg hasn't demonstrated how he personally would suffer even if his ''ridiculous and patently false'' claims were true.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: antichrist; bc; berg; bergvobama; birthcertificate; certifigate; fec; lawsuit; marines; obama; obamatruthfile; philipberg
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To: TheBigIf

WELL...isn’t THAT interesting....FEC lied to you....and probably are fronting for Obama special. This election is CRAZEEEEE.

81 posted on 10/23/2008 8:10:19 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Socialism is great until you run out of someone else's money (M. Thatcher))
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To: Antoninus
Seems to me that it's a basic function of the FEC to make sure that a candidate for president meets all the constitutional criteria to serve.

Nope, and Secretary of States don't normally care about eligibility either. They assume the Party takes care of that matter.

82 posted on 10/23/2008 8:10:23 AM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: danamco
It might sounds stupid to you, but those were the facts at that time, unfortunately for him!

Oh puhleeze. No court in the land, even the most conservative, would say an individual is not a natural born citizen who just happened to be born outside the U.S. to a mother who is a natural born citizen. This is grasping at straws and completely silly.

Rather than look like a bunch of lunatics, you'd think people who call themselves conservatives would prefer to spend their efforts on things that can actually have an impact on this election - such as sharing the truth about Obama's positions on the issues.

83 posted on 10/23/2008 8:10:46 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: MEGoody
And the BS about his mom only being 18 when she gave birth to him so she does not meet some criteria about living in the U.S. for a certain period of time is stupid as well.

Actually, his argument states that in 1961, she did not meet the requirements. I have been unable to verify this, but the courts should hear all the available evidence and straighten it out there.

After all, it's what the Courts are there for.

Obama could easily clear this up. He doesn't and hasn't.

Sometimes, when there is smoke, there is indeed fire. It'd be a good idea to check wouldn't it?

84 posted on 10/23/2008 8:11:19 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: CT-Freeper
However, nobody is really directly harmed by Obama's running for President.

In politics -- you only hurt the ones you love.

From Wikipedia entry on Matricide:

Known or Suspected Matricides

85 posted on 10/23/2008 8:11:26 AM PDT by bvw
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Alright the person I talked to at the FEC corrected herself and actually agreed with my complaint about their position.

The FEC does claim that they are not responsible for oversight on this issue but they also did go even further in their motion taking the side of the Obama campaign and the DNC. I told the woman that if they do not have responsibility for oversight in regards to the complaint by berg then why are they also taking sides in the case as well??? She admitted that was a somewhat problematic position.

I told her that in a time when there is possible election fraud going that it is very bad press for the FEC which is supposed to be bi-partisan to be taking sides on whether or not fraud is being committed in regards to the elegibility of a presidential candidate. And that to make statements that a United States citizen has no standing to know the truth in this regard looks very very bad for the FEC.

Action must be taken to investigate the FEC in this regard. It is outrageous, imo.

86 posted on 10/23/2008 8:11:45 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: CT-Freeper
Not that I agree at all with the FEC, but standing is quite an important element of a lawsuit, according to the Rules of Civil Procedure.

You raise an interesting point. Who, then, would have standing for such a challenge, and when could the challenge be raised? Do we have to wait until he has won the election before a voter has standing to challenge Obama's meeting Constitutional requirements for the office?

If so, then what would the relief be? President Biden?

87 posted on 10/23/2008 8:12:39 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: CT-Freeper
However, nobody is really directly harmed by Obama's running for President.

True, nobody is really directly harmed by Obama's running for President.
However, if elected, 300,000,000 Americans would be directly harmed by his violating the Constitution and taking office. The harm will be in undermining the veracity of the Constitution, which outlines and protects our Civil Liberties and constitutes the Government which we have elected.
88 posted on 10/23/2008 8:13:30 AM PDT by TexasGreg ("Democrats Piss Me Off")
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To: TheBigIf
This news source is misreporting the facts according to someone I just spoke to at the FEC. They did not join the Obama campaign or the DNC in asking for a dismissal as the article claims. They simply said that they do not have standing being that they were listed as a defendant. They made no claim as to Berg’s standing in the case.

Is that all? This is a very big if, if the FEC is neutral, since it nullifies the point of the story, and turns this thread upside down. Am I right? I admit I know jack about this item.

89 posted on 10/23/2008 8:14:44 AM PDT by Skid Marx
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To: TheBigIf

Good points — teh FEC did more than beg “not my job” — they took a side.

90 posted on 10/23/2008 8:16:27 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Born Conservative
Berg had filed against the FEC on his last filings and all this is the FEC’s reply which was posted Tuesday on some thread. This is not Obama’s filing unless I have missed something. So Obama’s campaign did not file in a timely fashion and thus did not answer the complaint. It would seem the failure to reply is an admission that the claims are true.

If an individual is sued and doesn't respond, does the plaintiff not win by default? Maybe if the media won't cover this it is time to start asking the question why no answer was filed in every comment we leave on other websites.

91 posted on 10/23/2008 8:18:30 AM PDT by nclaurel (No white flags from America in Iraq--hear that Biden!)
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To: TexasGreg
I haven't read Berg's actual complaint to see what he is challenging.

Obama’s qualification to run for President?
Obama’s qualification to be President?

You can't challenge the latter yet, because Obama is not yet President (or even President-elect).

Correct me if I am wrong - I don't know if there are any rules laid down, either in the Constitution or otherwise, as to who may seek the office of President (run for President), the Constitution only sets out requirements of eligibility to be President.

Do you have to be eligible to be President in order to run for President? Could somebody who is going to turn 35 years old the day before inauguration run for President, as he would be 34 during his campaign and election?

92 posted on 10/23/2008 8:21:52 AM PDT by CT-Freeper (Said the frequently disappointed but ever optimistic Mets fan.)
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To: All

The U.S. has been bought - committees have been bought - governing parties and candidates have been bought.

We are a nation up for auction.

93 posted on 10/23/2008 8:22:14 AM PDT by imintrouble
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To: MEGoody

I’ve never understood people who agree that Obama’s campaign has posted forged government documents as though they were real, and don’t care.

94 posted on 10/23/2008 8:24:39 AM PDT by TennesseeProfessor
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Thanks for the ping!

95 posted on 10/23/2008 8:26:18 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Maceman

Which way would your suspicions run?

I really can’t figure out why he just doesn’t submit his Birth Certificate. Shouldn’t they check that before he begins running? Isn’t there ANY kind of paperwork to fill out before you begin running for office? Why does everything in this country require paperwork except this?

Confused in California

96 posted on 10/23/2008 8:29:28 AM PDT by The Californian
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To: cookcounty

They make rules up to fit the situation.


97 posted on 10/23/2008 8:30:15 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except when it comes to dims!)
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To: imintrouble

For the FEC to take a side in this case and claim that United States citizens have no right to know whether or not fraud is being committed in regards to the elegibility of a candidate is outrageous.

I asked a FEC employee on the phone if I had the right to question the elegibility of another citizen to vote in the election and she Yes and that they would investigate it if I made a complaint.

So then I asked why the FEC was claiming that a United States citizen had no right and/or standing to do the same for a candidate and she had no answer and was moreso in agreement to it not sounding so good.

98 posted on 10/23/2008 8:30:18 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: Born Conservative


99 posted on 10/23/2008 8:30:19 AM PDT by justlittleoleme
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To: MEGoody

Apparently you can’t write OR read.

I already posted YOUR words in italics in my original post: “Even if Obama were born outside the U.S., that does not mean he isn’t a citizen.”

Of course it does not MEAN he isn’t a citizen. One has nothing to do with the other. Some people born outside the United States become citizens through a naturalization process. Others, like John McCain are US citizens by birth. So what?

And now we come to you next uninformed and dummass statement: “And Obama was born of a natural born U.S. citizen mother who had not renounced her citizenship, which makes him a ‘natural born citizen’ even if he were born outside the U.S.”

Please bone up on your stuff before mouthing off what you clearly don’t know jack about. The only way a child born overseas gets a clear “natural born” status is if BOTH parents are Citizens. If one is NOT (as was the case with young Barack) a whole other set of laws comes into play, and the laws in effect at the time of Barack’s birth, if it took place outside the United States, would not permit his natural born citizenship.

if you doubt that, get advice from someone who actually knows something about the subject, and stop relying on your own imaginings.

100 posted on 10/23/2008 8:32:15 AM PDT by John Valentine
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