Skip to comments.FEC joins call to throw out suit against Obama (Berg's challenge of BHO's citizenship)
Posted on 10/23/2008 7:18:55 AM PDT by Born Conservative
The Federal Election Commission has joined Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee in asking a federal judge to dismiss a lawsuit filed by a Montgomery County attorney seeking Obama's ouster from the November ballot.
Philip Berg, who claims the Illinois senator was born in Kenya and can't run for president because he isn't a natural-born U.S. citizen, has no standing to make the claim, according to the FEC.
The motion, filed Tuesday in U.S. District Court in Philadelphia, echoes one filed last month by Obama and the DNC that states Berg hasn't demonstrated how he personally would suffer even if his ''ridiculous and patently false'' claims were true.
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WELL...isn’t THAT interesting....FEC lied to you....and probably are fronting for Obama too.....how special. This election is CRAZEEEEE.
Nope, and Secretary of States don't normally care about eligibility either. They assume the Party takes care of that matter.
Oh puhleeze. No court in the land, even the most conservative, would say an individual is not a natural born citizen who just happened to be born outside the U.S. to a mother who is a natural born citizen. This is grasping at straws and completely silly.
Rather than look like a bunch of lunatics, you'd think people who call themselves conservatives would prefer to spend their efforts on things that can actually have an impact on this election - such as sharing the truth about Obama's positions on the issues.
Actually, his argument states that in 1961, she did not meet the requirements. I have been unable to verify this, but the courts should hear all the available evidence and straighten it out there.
After all, it's what the Courts are there for.
Obama could easily clear this up. He doesn't and hasn't.
Sometimes, when there is smoke, there is indeed fire. It'd be a good idea to check wouldn't it?
In politics -- you only hurt the ones you love.
From Wikipedia entry on Matricide:
Known or Suspected Matricides
- Amastris, queen of Heraclea, was drowned by her two sons in 284 BC.
- Cleopatra III of Egypt was assassinated in 101 BC by order of her son, Ptolemy X, for her conspiring.
- Ptolemy XI of Egypt had his wife, Berenice III, murdered shortly after their wedding in 80 BC. She was also his stepmother, or perhaps his mother.
- In AD 59, the Roman Emperor Nero is said to have ordered the murder of his mother Agrippina the Younger, supposedly because she was conspiring against him.
Alright the person I talked to at the FEC corrected herself and actually agreed with my complaint about their position.
The FEC does claim that they are not responsible for oversight on this issue but they also did go even further in their motion taking the side of the Obama campaign and the DNC. I told the woman that if they do not have responsibility for oversight in regards to the complaint by berg then why are they also taking sides in the case as well??? She admitted that was a somewhat problematic position.
I told her that in a time when there is possible election fraud going that it is very bad press for the FEC which is supposed to be bi-partisan to be taking sides on whether or not fraud is being committed in regards to the elegibility of a presidential candidate. And that to make statements that a United States citizen has no standing to know the truth in this regard looks very very bad for the FEC.
Action must be taken to investigate the FEC in this regard. It is outrageous, imo.
You raise an interesting point. Who, then, would have standing for such a challenge, and when could the challenge be raised? Do we have to wait until he has won the election before a voter has standing to challenge Obama's meeting Constitutional requirements for the office?
If so, then what would the relief be? President Biden?
Is that all? This is a very big if, if the FEC is neutral, since it nullifies the point of the story, and turns this thread upside down. Am I right? I admit I know jack about this item.
Good points — teh FEC did more than beg “not my job” — they took a side.
If an individual is sued and doesn't respond, does the plaintiff not win by default? Maybe if the media won't cover this it is time to start asking the question why no answer was filed in every comment we leave on other websites.
Obama’s qualification to run for President?
Obama’s qualification to be President?
You can't challenge the latter yet, because Obama is not yet President (or even President-elect).
Correct me if I am wrong - I don't know if there are any rules laid down, either in the Constitution or otherwise, as to who may seek the office of President (run for President), the Constitution only sets out requirements of eligibility to be President.
Do you have to be eligible to be President in order to run for President? Could somebody who is going to turn 35 years old the day before inauguration run for President, as he would be 34 during his campaign and election?
The U.S. has been bought - committees have been bought - governing parties and candidates have been bought.
We are a nation up for auction.
I’ve never understood people who agree that Obama’s campaign has posted forged government documents as though they were real, and don’t care.
Thanks for the ping!
Which way would your suspicions run?
I really can’t figure out why he just doesn’t submit his Birth Certificate. Shouldn’t they check that before he begins running? Isn’t there ANY kind of paperwork to fill out before you begin running for office? Why does everything in this country require paperwork except this?
Confused in California
They make rules up to fit the situation.
For the FEC to take a side in this case and claim that United States citizens have no right to know whether or not fraud is being committed in regards to the elegibility of a candidate is outrageous.
I asked a FEC employee on the phone if I had the right to question the elegibility of another citizen to vote in the election and she Yes and that they would investigate it if I made a complaint.
So then I asked why the FEC was claiming that a United States citizen had no right and/or standing to do the same for a candidate and she had no answer and was moreso in agreement to it not sounding so good.
Apparently you can’t write OR read.
I already posted YOUR words in italics in my original post: “Even if Obama were born outside the U.S., that does not mean he isn’t a citizen.”
Of course it does not MEAN he isn’t a citizen. One has nothing to do with the other. Some people born outside the United States become citizens through a naturalization process. Others, like John McCain are US citizens by birth. So what?
And now we come to you next uninformed and dummass statement: “And Obama was born of a natural born U.S. citizen mother who had not renounced her citizenship, which makes him a ‘natural born citizen’ even if he were born outside the U.S.”
Please bone up on your stuff before mouthing off what you clearly don’t know jack about. The only way a child born overseas gets a clear “natural born” status is if BOTH parents are Citizens. If one is NOT (as was the case with young Barack) a whole other set of laws comes into play, and the laws in effect at the time of Barack’s birth, if it took place outside the United States, would not permit his natural born citizenship.
if you doubt that, get advice from someone who actually knows something about the subject, and stop relying on your own imaginings.
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