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Posted on 10/25/2008 4:32:57 PM PDT by Chet 99
November 9, 1989
THE 1989 ELECTIONS: PREDICTING THE OUTCOME; BROAD DISPARITIES IN VOTES AND POLLS RAISING QUESTIONS
By ANDREW ROSENTHAL, SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMES
LEAD: Voter surveys for the elections Tuesday in Virginia and New York City produced widely divergent and largely inaccurate results, leaving poll takers divided over whether the survey methods were flawed or people simply lied about voting for a black candidate to avoid seeming biased.
Voter surveys for the elections Tuesday in Virginia and New York City produced widely divergent and largely inaccurate results, leaving poll takers divided over whether the survey methods were flawed or people simply lied about voting for a black candidate to avoid seeming biased.
The polls projected far greater margins of victory for black candidates in two major races than they actually received. The inaccuracies have provoked a renewed debate over the touchy issue of news organizations' use of election surveys, and they illustrate the difficulty of accounting for racial attitudes in campaign opinion research.
In New York, polls made public the day before the mayoral election gave David N. Dinkins leads of 14 percentage points (by The Daily News with WABC-TV) to 18 points (by The New York Observer). His actual margin of victory over Rudolph W. Giuliani was about 2 percentage points.
(Excerpt) Read more at query.nytimes.com ...
Here it comes - Obama loss due to racism.
Is it just possible that Americans are not voting for Obozo because they don’t trust him and he is inexperienced???
This is exactly what I posted in 1989.
Personally, I don’t CARE why people vote against him. If it takes idiots in pointy hats to keep this evil, Marxist piece of zhit out of the White House, so be it...
Given all the people who have been threatened and intimidated by Barack Obama supporters, if somebody were to call my house out of the blue and asks me who I am going to vote for, I might be tempted to say Obama, out of fear that they are merely making a list of people to target.
I would be tempted for about a second... And then I would tell them that I am voting for McCain, and they can go to Hell!
I applaud the principle of being able to csst a “secret ballot.”
Poor, pitiful pollsters — they can’t see my ballot, and they have to take my word for it. ha ha
Exactly. If they want to riot, deal with it then.
Not to mention the "Sarah Palin" effect, where people are going to say they will vote for the Democrat but end up voting for the self-made everywoman in the election.
Not to mention the "Joe the Plumber" effect, where people are going to think long and hard about what will happen to their personal tax bill when their wealth is being spread around.
It's just a question of whether it's the same voter affected by all the effects, or different voters each with their own reason to confound the experts.
Maybe it’s the pollsters who are incompetent — or crooked.
2010 no more secret ballot.
Racism will NOT EVER be the reason for the demise of Obama. It’s his policies....duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....
This rag is about to endorse their "messiah," Barack Hussein Obama. So, when this is NATIONAL "NEWS", don't be surprised.
Arizona has 8 House seats. The People's Republic already has endorsed 6 Nazi Pelosi 'RATS. Only two Republicans. The Arizona Republic IS NOT a conservative newspaper. It's a Commie rag that no one in this state reads.
The Arizona People's Republic is recommending that the voters vote AGAINST the Marriage amendement, Prop 102. The Amendment will only change our constitution to read that marriage is between a male and a female. The Arizona Republic doesn't like that idea. THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE newspaper.
Finally, the Arizona People's Republic has endorsed Sheriff Joe Arpaio's DEMOCRATIK opponent since this opponent does not agree with Sheriff Joe rounding up illegals and shipping them home to Central and South America.
When the MSM pops this EID on McCain/Palin (probably tomorrow), just remember. THE ARIZONA PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC IS A LEFTIST RAG AND IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE NEWSPAPER.
The best thing about this being brought up now and starting to make into the public conciousness:
THERE F’N GAME IS UP. DIDN’T WORK ASSWIPES. NOBODY NOWHERE HAS ANY CONFIDENCE IN YOUR “INEVITABILITY” BULLSHIT NO MORE. HA!
Well, I’m white and lemme say this.
This election has brought out some serious racist thoughts I didn’t know I possessed, but after hearing BHO, Rev. Wright, Louis Farrakan, etc., and having the MSM FORCE this candidate upon America and screaming that we are racist if we do not elect him, I am just SOOOO FED UP with all of it!
I’m feeling very angry and don’t give a CRAP whether or not any black person thinks I’m racist or not. I do not care and I’m starting to develop a REAL ATTITUDE. I’m hearing this a lot from my friends as well.
THis election has also driven a wedge between me and the black friends I thought I had. They have turned cold toward me when they’ve discovered I won’t vote for BHO.
He has DIVIDED this nation even more. We are fearful and very, VERY angry and the election is not even over.
Don’t be superficial. That is what the enemy wants you to be.
This is about black hearts, not brown skin.
I was polled by Rasmussen’s computer this afternoon. Stupid me, pushed the wrong key on my cell phone and said I was voting for 0bama. Got all the others right, but I missed the big questions. So its my fault if 0bama is ahead in Arizona. ;-)
THERE=THEIR Sorry
Where? Prodigy? Compuserve?? :)
If I were called, I would ask them to guarantee that my life history won’t be made public, like Joe’s was, if I don’t respond Obama.
And how much would their guarantee be worth?
My answer, if polled, would be that since Obama is half white and half black that I am voting for the white half. (Sarc)
Sheila don’t be down on yourself. I have had to confess to my priest for having the same feelings and letting loose some very ugly words at my t.v. Called my t.v. a n-—er and I couldn’t believe I said that. Especially since I know that there are so many black folks out there I would be proud to cast my ballot for, for president. It’s just the arrogance and the violence Obama is willing to use to get whatever he wants. I mean, what do you call kicking all of the people off the ballot in all the other races he has ever won? Violence and intimidation, illegal tampering in the primary election well documented against Hillary Clinton’s supporters? He is a thug from Chicago who has had some dead bodies pile up around him already and he’s not even president. (We thought ol slick was bad, huh)
So Obama gets about 90% of the black vote in the primaries (against Hillary Clinton, whom black people love) and will get about 95% of the black vote in the general election. And, Obama should get around 40% of the white vote on election day. To the mainstream media, the almost unanimous support for Obama by black people is not racist, but the 60% of white Americans who favor McCain are clearly racists.
I, too, am very tired of the double standard.
Their guarantee would be worth nothing - that’s the point and that’s why I wouldn’t respond with my choice. If enough people said that to them, then the pollsters might conclude they cannot get an accurate poll and just go away.
I never answer polls of any sort or surveys after I bought something, nothing. I tell them to leave me alone, or I’ll never buy your product again. No one can poll our household — we don’t allow it.
the blackboard
Damn old articles... gotta remember to check dates.
Don’t come down on yourself. Many, many of us feel the same way.
My husband who is usually very calm, things roll off of his back very easily, went into a long rant last evening about how angry he is and that these socialists thugs have finally pushed his last button.
That is usually how I feel, but coming from him, I was shocked.
The Rats have divided this nation in two in a very dramatic way.
I don’t know if it can come back. You’re right, the election hasn’t happened yet, and lots of us are over the top angry.
What will happen when the results come out. How will the losing side react?
It’s good to know who to blame.
I was polled a few days ago and lied, stating that I was definitely voting for Obama.
Here’s where it gets good. Liberals would never think of lying to a pollster and saying that they’re voting for McCain.
But I think there are many repubs and PUMA’s who have been less than honest when polled.
This could be a very exciting election night.
Just tell you are voting for the candidate that supports the 2nd amendment. That will get you off their list real fast!!
Where? Prodigy? Compuserve?? :)
On an Etch-a-sketch?
The difference is that our side won’t riot and never think of doing something like rioting. Too many blacks in the inner city don’t get their way and riot. Will never forget Rodney King and how they burned out places in LA. Scary thoughts! Obama and the pollsters are cooking up a prescription for riots by duping the American people who on election day will not be duped.
A lot of Americans have had affirmative action forced down their throats and will remember that when voting. White males have been passed over for promotions and are at the end of the line — they will not vote in large numbers for Obama IMHO. Obama pays women less then he does guys that work for him while McCain pays the same so why should any woman vote for Obama.
In fact, if you are not far left, why would anyone vote for the socialist!
That's what they want. Remember this...
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6KUDv1wzraWhwlBt1
Communism by way of racism. Make everyone feel guilty, divide and conquer
“The difference is that our side won’t riot and never think of doing something like rioting. “
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I won’t use the term “riot” when it comes to our side. (conservative Americans)
But the word “FIGHT” comes to mind.
I will fight to win my country back. I cannot specifically define the word “fight” at this time. It depends on how far down the well these leftists try to take America.
But I agree. Riot we will not. Conservatives were taught to not destroy other peoples property.
Exactly! We did FIGHT during the Florida Fiasco to keep Gore from stealing the election with rallies around the Country and people in FL making sure the Florida Election Boards counted the CHADs right. We are in a FIGHT right now to make sure the Socialist stays out of the WH.
We do respect other people’s property unlike thugs that support Obama but we are not going to sit by and see our country taken over by the Socialist because we are going to beat him at the ballot box. Everyone is seeing Obama’s response to a reporter that dares ask a question of his VP candidate he doesn’t like. That should send a chill throughout America and make everyone FIGHT even harder to win this election!
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