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Obama Plans To Downgrade Medicare

Posted on 10/30/2008 10:53:07 AM PDT by Candybar

This is Halloween and Obama is trying to scare and fool us Senior Citizens. He is planning to kill Medicare, as we know it, and give us a SEVERELY MODIFIED old age health insurance plan.

Obama would, for example, eliminate a certain number of surgical procedures costing ten of thousands of dollars each. The Democrats' idea is to reign in Medicare's costs at the expense of the Senior Citizens.

First, Obama wants to take away our retirement plans like in Argentina. Now, he wants to compromise our health insurance coverage.

This is a helluva way to treat people!

My Fellow Americans, Obama is worse than we could ever conceive and believe!

There is one way to stop this. Vote for John McCain. And vote for your Republican Senator and Republican Congressman or Congresswoman.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antichrist; citizens; conspiracy; drivebyvanity; medicare; nutbar; obama; senior

1 posted on 10/30/2008 10:53:13 AM PDT by Candybar
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To: Candybar

He’ll probably only limit expensive procedures for white people. Payback, you know.


2 posted on 10/30/2008 10:54:53 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: Candybar

But it’s your DUTY to die when you get old, so that others may live more comfotably.


3 posted on 10/30/2008 10:55:16 AM PDT by WayneS (Vote Obama bin Biden 2008 - "Because the world doesn't suck enough yet".)
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To: Candybar

Where did you get this info from?


4 posted on 10/30/2008 10:59:05 AM PDT by iloveluci (Once burned you learn, no more Demo rats!)
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To: Candybar

He’s AGAINST socialized Health Care? Who’d a thunk it?


5 posted on 10/30/2008 10:59:47 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Candybar

Do you have a link to this information?


6 posted on 10/30/2008 10:59:59 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: Candybar
Socialized Medicine = the young get the needed treatment and the old (no-longer useful) are left to die.
7 posted on 10/30/2008 11:00:35 AM PDT by onlylewis (libs want a two class system, one rich one poor)
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To: Candybar
I need to repeat that senility contributes significantly to the slide of our society into third world society status.

Betcha AARP still supports Obama.
Also betcha that Florida goes Obama.

Talk about mixed feelings about this article!

8 posted on 10/30/2008 11:01:42 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: iloveluci

Good Question!


9 posted on 10/30/2008 11:06:32 AM PDT by plumcrazy
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To: Candybar

All you’ve done since signing up here is post drive-by vanities.
Take a hike nutbar.


10 posted on 10/30/2008 11:06:46 AM PDT by WackySam (Do we really want a President who has terrorists on his speed dial?)
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To: Candybar
Do you have a source? I see something like this coming, but I am on Medicare and figured the next step was when we become too expensive and burdensome to society, we will forced to die whether we have advance directives or not. They are already doing it in Oregon.

You would be shocked at how it shafts my caregivers; they are lucky to get 60% or less of what they charge patients with no ins or better ins. At some point, they will refuse to take Medicare patients altogether, think it may already be happening.

I did buy an extended care policy years ago which has much better coverage than Medicare as I don't think they have any provisions for long-term care as it is. If the the insurance companies don't go belly up, that gives me a little added layer of protection.

That kind of insurance is prohibitively expensive now, as the premiums have skyrocketed.

11 posted on 10/30/2008 11:06:46 AM PDT by Aliska
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To: Candybar

Where is your source for this?


12 posted on 10/30/2008 11:09:00 AM PDT by Nachum (Obama: Liar for hire)
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To: Candybar

People have no idea how terrible social health care is when you are at the end. People also dont seem to understand that in many Nationalized health care systems you actaully need to go out and purchase an additional private plan to upgrade your care from horrible to lousy, see England or Great Britain or whatever they’re calling themselves these days.


13 posted on 10/30/2008 11:09:08 AM PDT by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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To: Publius6961

“Betcha AARP still supports Obama.”

Betcha they don’t. In 2000 and 2004 all you saw were AARP commercials supporting Gore and Kerry. They are absent this year. The rich geezers are concerned that Obama is going to take their SS payments and then tax the capital gains they live on in retirement.

My Brooklyn liberal aunt put it this way. A socialist and a schvatza?


14 posted on 10/30/2008 11:09:08 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: Candybar

Uhhhhmmm..This is a little light on facts and documents to be properly contemplated.....More, please.


15 posted on 10/30/2008 11:10:39 AM PDT by DGHoodini (Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand)
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To: iloveluci; LibFreeUSA; Aliska; Nachum
Where did you get this info from?

Don't expect an answer, this guy just posts vanities and has never replied to a single post.
16 posted on 10/30/2008 11:12:50 AM PDT by WackySam (Do we really want a President who has terrorists on his speed dial?)
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To: Candybar

17 posted on 10/30/2008 11:13:28 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: Candybar

yea, euthanasia and limited health care for the elderly and dying is a big thing in socialist europe. but where did you see this specifically, this is the kind of thing that a press conference should be held on. even if we need to do something about healthcare, we should not mess with medicare at all. it is the best system for the elderly in the world


18 posted on 10/30/2008 11:13:39 AM PDT by volslover
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To: onlylewis
Socialized Medicine = the young get the needed treatment and the old (no-longer useful) are left to die.

In every country with socialized medicine, the result is rationed care with the elderly bearing the brunt of the rationing. Our grand experiment will not start out with rationed care and single payer health care but it will evolve into single payer within 5 to 10 years. The brutal effects of rationing will take some time to develop. The rats are hoping that it will be too late to change after reality sinks in.

I suspect that the American experiment with socialized medicine will turn out much worse than other countries. We have higher expectations about our health care system. When the hammer falls, there will populist solutions that make the situation even worse. The rats will try to stop you from paying for private health care and stop physicians from providing private health care services. Hopefully, private health care options will arise in other countries to circumvent these limitations. Every physician better learn to deal with the jack booted authority of the rats. Rats rule! No conservatives allowed or even conservative thoughts!

19 posted on 10/30/2008 11:21:41 AM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: WayneS
But it’s your DUTY to die when you get old, so that others may live more comfotably.

Can you name the Republican Governor that made this statement, while he was running for President?

20 posted on 10/30/2008 11:23:33 AM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. The only question is whether by conquest or consent.)
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To: Candybar

Medicare is doomed no matter who wins. It is simply unsustainable. Like Social “Insecurity”, it is a ponzi scheme that is about to unravel. After all these years of paying exorbitant taxes to support current retirees, Boomers are going to be left holding the empty bag.

This is precisely why government should never have gotten involved in health care in the first place. Government health care always fails.


21 posted on 10/30/2008 11:25:41 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: WackySam
Where did you get this info from?

I remember some congressional hearings that made some news last week, where all the items were being considered. The Social Security confiscation of 401k's was a big item. Rush mentioned it too.

22 posted on 10/30/2008 11:28:59 AM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. The only question is whether by conquest or consent.)
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To: itsahoot

No.

I was thnking more along the lines of Loagan’s Run.


23 posted on 10/30/2008 11:29:29 AM PDT by WayneS (Vote Obama bin Biden 2008 - "Because the world doesn't suck enough yet".)
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To: WackySam
Don't expect an answer

No, I don't. I read the other posts asking for a source as well. Should have kept my thoughts to myself on that one lol.

24 posted on 10/30/2008 11:35:31 AM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska

Looked at his posting history. Every post is a thread posting.


25 posted on 10/30/2008 11:58:29 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (White Trash for Sarah!)
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To: WayneS
But it’s your DUTY to die when you get old, so that others may live more comfotably.

Giving money to the health care system doesn't produce much more care. All it does is reallocate care from those that don't have political power (the working lower middle class) and gives it to those that are politically powerful (seniors).

So really it's about allowing broke seniors to die so that current workers can live.

26 posted on 10/30/2008 12:05:57 PM PDT by mc6809e
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To: onlylewis
Socialized Medicine = the young get the needed treatment and the old (no-longer useful) are left to die.

Socialized Medicine = politics determines who gets care instead of income.

We already have socialized medicine. When old whites had political power, the state allocated them medical care (while others were priced out).

Well, Obama doesn't need ol' whitey. The young and poor are his base, so the state will allocate the care to them now.

27 posted on 10/30/2008 12:12:46 PM PDT by mc6809e
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To: WayneS
I was thnking more along the lines of Loagan’s Run.

Colorado Governor Richard Lamm, talks about cutting Medicare by 10 times the amount currently proposed over the next decade

28 posted on 10/30/2008 2:10:54 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. The only question is whether by conquest or consent.)
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To: Candybar

**Vote for John McCain. And vote for your Republican Senator and Republican Congressman or Congresswoman.**

Bump that!

Obama just lost the senior vote!


29 posted on 10/30/2008 4:09:46 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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30 posted on 10/31/2008 6:55:33 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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