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To: dascallie

Yes, but....

Fox News reported a couple of hours ago that the governor of Hawaii and the director of the bureau of vital records had issued a statement that they had viewed the birth certificate and it was valid and in order.

The governor is a Republican who spoke at the convention. Don’t think she would participate in a fraud but I’m sure that won’t stop people from wondering until they get their hands on it.

Maybe they just whipped up a fresh one. (I don’t believe that)


7 posted on 11/01/2008 4:43:35 PM PDT by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: Belasarius

the certificate was filed x number days after he was born. So what there is a “certificate” on file? What does it say ? The one online was a forgery, Obama camp should be charged with fraud.


11 posted on 11/01/2008 4:45:17 PM PDT by dascallie
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To: Belasarius

A valid certificate saying what exactly................you can certify any folking fact see.....whether it makes him a United States citizen is the issue...get it?


12 posted on 11/01/2008 4:45:38 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Belasarius

Thursday, October 30, 2008
WorldNetDaily Exclusive

Obama’s birth certificate sealed by Hawaii governor

Says Democratic senator must make request to obtain original document
Posted: October 26, 2008
9:54 pm Eastern
By Jerome R. Corsi
WorldNetDaily

Gov. Linda Lingle, R-Hawaii

Quote:
HONOLULU, Hawaii – Although the legitimacy of Sen. Barack Obama’s birth certificate has become a focus of intense speculation – and even several lawsuits – WND has learned that Hawaii’s Gov. Linda Lingle has placed the candidate’s birth certificate under seal and instructed the state’s Department of Health to make sure no one in the press obtains access to the original document under any circumstances.

The governor’s office officially declined a request made in writing by WND in Hawaii to obtain a copy of the hospital-generated original birth certificate of Barack Obama.

“It does not appear that Dr. Corsi is within any of these categories of persons with a direct and tangible interest in the birth certificate he seeks,” wrote Roz Makuala, manager of constituent services in the governor’s office, in an e-mailed response to a WND request seeking the information.

Those listed as entitled to obtain a copy of an original birth certificate include the person born, or “registrant” according to the legal description from the governor’s office, the spouse or parent of the registrant, a descendant of the registrant, a person having a common ancestor with the registrant, a legal guardian of the registrant, or a person or agency acting on behalf of the registrant.

WND was told the official reason for denial of access to Obama’s birth certificate would be authority granted pursuant to Section 338-18 of the Hawaii Revised Statutes, a provision the anonymous source claimed was designed to prevent identity theft.

Still, the source told WND confidentially the motivation for withholding the original birth certificate was political, although the source refused to disclose whether there was any information on the original birth certificate that would prove politically embarrassing to Obama.

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The source also refused to answer WND’s question whether the original document on file with the Department of Health was a hospital-generated birth certificate or a registration of birth that may have been filed subsequent to the birth.

The anonymous source made clear the Hawaii Department of Health would immediately release Obama’s original birth certificate, provided Obama requested the document be released, but the Department of Heath has received no such request from the senator or from anyone acting officially on his behalf.

WND also found on microfilm in the Honolulu downtown public library a notice published under the “Births, Marriages, Deaths” section of the Honolulu Sunday Advertiser for August 13, 1961, on page B-6, noting: “Mr. and Mrs. Barack II Obama. 6085 Kalanianaole-Hwy, son, Aug. 4.”

In searching through the birth notices of the Honolulu Advertiser for 1961, WND found many birth notices were published between one and two weeks after the date of birth listed.

The notice in the Honolulu Advertiser does not list the hospital where the Obama son was born or the doctor who delivered the baby.

In a startling development, Obama’s Kenyan grandmother has reportedly alleged she witnessed Obama’s birth at the Coast Provincial Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya.

Friday, U.S. Federal judge Richard Barclay Surrick, a Clinton appointee, dismissed a lawsuit brought by Pennsylvania attorney Phillip J. Berg who alleged Obama was not a U.S. “natural born” citizen and therefore ineligible for the presidency under the specifications of the U.S. Constitution, under Article II, Section 1.

Berg told WND last week he does not have a copy of a Kenyan birth certificate for Obama that he alleges exists.

In Kenya, WND was told by government authorities that all documents concerning Obama were under seal until after the U.S. presidential election on November 4.

The Obama campaign website entitled “Fight the Smears” posts a state of Hawaii “Certificate of Live Birth” which is obviously not the original birth certificate generated by the hospital where Obama reportedly was born.

“Fight the Smears” declares, “The truth is, Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961, a native citizen of the United States of America.”

Although the Obama campaign could immediately put an end to all the challenges by simply producing the candidate’s original birth certificate, it has not done so. And the “Fight the Smears” website offers no explanation as to why Obama has refused to request, and make public, an original hospital-generated birth certificate which the Hawaii Department of Health may possess.

If you’d like to sound off on this issue, please take part in the WorldNetDaily poll.


14 posted on 11/01/2008 4:48:02 PM PDT by dascallie
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To: Belasarius

Birth certification doesn’t mean he’s a natural born citizen. He could have been born in Kenya, as his grandmother says, then a few days later his mother registers him in Hawaii. The real documents to be searching would be in Kenya, if they still exist, or ever did exist.


15 posted on 11/01/2008 4:49:03 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Belasarius

There are some posts about a law in Hawaii that allows a hawaiian birth certificate even if you are born outside of the US if a parent is a Citizen.

So the birth certificate could be valid but he was born in Kenya.

However, the whole point becomes moot about the place of birth if Frank Marshall Davis was listed as the father or is his father. Born in Kenya and father is Obama - not a US citizen. Born in Kenya and Davis father - US citizen.

This doesn’t mean there still aren’t issues about Indonesia and whether he had to give up US citizenship to get the Indonesian passport he used to travel to Pakistan when US citizens weren’t allowed free access.


19 posted on 11/01/2008 4:52:06 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Belasarius
The governor is a Republican who spoke at the convention. Don’t think she would participate in a fraud but I’m sure that won’t stop people from wondering until they get their hands on it.

This story just keeps getting weirder and weirder all the time.

First Obama's lawyers file a Motion to Dismiss on the last possible day to answer Philip Berg's complaint, when they could have easily presented Obama's legal COLB to the court, and destroyed the case and the controversy.

This move on their part only led to the appearance that Obama was making a tacit admission that he couldn't prove his "natural born citizen" credentials, and thus his eligibility to assume the office of president.

Now, Obama interrupts his campaign in the last critical hours to ostensibly visit his sick Granny, then flies back after just one hour's visit. Mysteriously, the Governor of Hawaii then seals his COLB from the public upon Obama's departure from her state.

All of this is transparent to any but the most willfully ignorant person. Obama is committing fraud, and trying every trick in the book to cover it up. It's as transparent as Sandy Berger's theft of the 9/11 documents from the National Archives. You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to understand what's happening right in front of our faces.

And, I don't care if the governor of Hawaii is a Republican, and spoke at the RNC. She's in on this. I watched Linda Lingle's speech, and it was undeniably the weakest performance of the convention, not that you can draw anything from that, but at the very least, it's a red flag.

27 posted on 11/01/2008 5:26:03 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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