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Just saw this quote from US Socialist Party member: eye opening!

Posted on 11/02/2008 11:11:22 AM PST by dascallie

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."

- Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948


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1 posted on 11/02/2008 11:11:23 AM PST by dascallie
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To: dascallie

Great quote~ I’m using this on another site with undecideds.


2 posted on 11/02/2008 11:14:25 AM PST by libertarian27 (Land of the Fee, Home of the Shamed)
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To: dascallie

“Until and unless you discover that money is the root of all good, you ask for your own destruction. When money ceases to become the means by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of other men. Blood, whips and guns—or dollars. Take your choice—there is no other.” Ayn Rand, “Atlas Shrugged”


3 posted on 11/02/2008 11:14:25 AM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: dascallie

He’s right. Drip, drip, drip, ... Unfortunately, the faucet’s been leaking for quite some time now.


4 posted on 11/02/2008 11:15:58 AM PST by mellow velo
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To: dascallie

In Political Science class, it was called “creeping socialism.”


5 posted on 11/02/2008 11:21:13 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: dascallie
”"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism.”

Really? I think that at least half of them would adopt it in heart-beat.

Even if we dodge this bullet, sooner or later we’re gonna get it!”

6 posted on 11/02/2008 11:29:18 AM PST by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard)
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That’s what i have been telling people...if we can manage to stave off this socialist onslaught this time, they will come back with a more dishonest, manipulative and ferocious assault next.

It is positively unbelievable how people want to destroy the greatest socio-economic system that has ever existed.

I long for the days when thee was a clear-eyed appreciation and understanding of what was required to preserve this miraculous country.

This is all about a left-wing power grab and a populace of lazy, entertainment and image obsessed sheeple being promised goodies.

Please be prepared to support President McCain and VP Palin if they should win—they will demonized, ridiculed and hounded as never before to ensure their demise.


7 posted on 11/02/2008 11:51:28 AM PST by dascallie
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To: dascallie

The American people will never knowingly elect an angry radical socialist and separatist, but if convinced that they are electing the first Black president they will vote him in.


8 posted on 11/02/2008 11:56:07 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism = serious mental deficiency)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
The American people will never knowingly elect an angry radical socialist and separatist, but if convinced that they are electing the first Black president they will vote him in.

That's exactly how it's going down. They brought that race card up at the very start.

9 posted on 11/02/2008 12:03:01 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (Is ACORN founder Wade Rathke, a Bill Ayers Weather Underground Associate)
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To: dascallie
they will demonized, ridiculed and hounded as never before to ensure their demise.

Yes and we thought the hatred for Bush was bad. They get away with too much.

10 posted on 11/02/2008 12:05:35 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (Is ACORN founder Wade Rathke, a Bill Ayers Weather Underground Associate)
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To: ArchAngel1983
We are already there. Here is the Socialist Platfrom of 1912.

http://www.sagehistory.net/progressive/SocialistPlat1912.htm

See how scary this is:

Collective Ownership

1. The collective ownership and democratic management of railroads, wire and wireless telegraphs and telephones, express service, steamboat lines, and all other social means of transportation and communication and of all large scale industries.

2. The immediate acquirement by the municipalities, the states or the federal government of all grain elevators, stock yards, storage warehouses, and other distributing agencies, in order to reduce the present extortionate cost of living.

3. The extension of the public domain to include mines, quarries, oil wells, forests and water power.

4. The further conservation and development of natural resources for the use and benefit of all the people . . .

5. The collective ownership of land wherever practicable, and in cases where such ownership is impracticable, the appropriation by taxation of the annual rental value of all the land held for speculation and exploitation.

6. The collective ownership and democratic management of the banking and currency system. Didn't this just happen with the bailout?

Unemployment

The immediate government relief of the unemployed by the extension of all useful public works. All persons employed on such works to be engaged directly by the government under a work day of not more than eight hours and at not less than the prevailing union wages. The government also to establish employment bureaus; to lend money to states and municipalities without interest for the purpose of carrying on public works, and to take such other measures within its power as will lessen the widespread misery of the workers caused by the misrule of the capitalist class.

Industrial Demands

1. The conservation of human resources, particularly of the lives and well-being of the workers and their families:

2. By shortening the work day in keeping with the increased productiveness of machinery.

3. By securing for every worker a rest period of not less than a day and a half in each week.

4. By securing a more effective inspection of workshops, factories and mines.

5. By the forbidding the employment of children under sixteen years of age.

6. By the co-operative organization of the industries in the federal penitentiaries for the benefit of the convicts and their dependents.

7. By forbidding the interstate transportation of the products of child labor, of convict labor and of all uninspected factories and mines.

Interstate Commerce Clause anyone???

8. By abolishing the profit system in government work and substituting either the direct hire of labor or the awarding of contracts to co-operative groups of workers.

9. By establishing minimum wage scales.

10. By abolishing official charity and substituting a non-contributary system of old age pensions, a general system of insurance by the State of all its members against unemployment and invalidism and a system of compulsory insurance by employers of their workers, without cost to the latter, against industrial diseases, accidents and death. Social Security

Political Demands

1. The absolute freedom of press, speech and assemblage.

2. The adoption of a graduated income tax and the extension of inheritance taxes, graduated in proportion to the value of the estate and to nearness of kin-the proceeds of these taxes to be employed in the socialization of industry.

3. The abolition of the monopoly ownership of patents and the substitution of collective ownership, with direct rewards to inventors by premiums or royalties.

4. Unrestricted and equal suffrage for men and women.

5. The adoption of the initiative, referendum and recall and of proportional representation, nationally as well as locally.

6. The abolition of the Senate and of the veto power of the President.

7. The election of the President and Vice-President by direct vote of the people. They are actively working on this one

8. The abolition of the power usurped by the Supreme Court of the United States to pass upon the constitutionality of the legislation enacted by Congress. National laws to be repealed only by act of Congress or by a referendum vote of the whole people.

9. Abolition of the present restrictions upon the amendment of the constitution, so that instrument may be made amendable by a majority of the voters in a majority of the States.

10. The granting of the right of suffrage in the District of Columbia with representation in Congress and a democratic form of municipal government for purely local affairs.

11. The extension of democratic government to all United States territory.

12. The enactment of further measures for the conservation of health. The creation of an independent bureau of health, with such restrictions as will secure full liberty to all schools of practice.

13. The enactment of further measures for general education and particularly for vocational education in useful pursuits. The Bureau of Education to be made a department.

14. The separation of the present Bureau of Labor from the Department of Commerce and Labor and its elevation to the rank of a department.

15. Abolition of an federal districts courts and the United States circuit court of appeals. State courts to have jurisdiction in all cases arising between citizens of several states and foreign corporations. The election of all judges for short terms.

16. The immediate curbing of the power of the courts to issue injunctions.

17. The free administration of the law.

18. The calling of a convention for the revision of the constitution of the U. S.

11 posted on 11/02/2008 12:19:29 PM PST by ibheath (I liked America better when the threats to our freedom came exclusively from abroad.)
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To: dascallie

If anything you have to admire (begrudgingly, perhaps) Norm’s intellectual honesty. He ran, and ran often, but always under the banner of the American Socialist Party. The difference is great, however, between Norman Thomas and the Marxist revolutionary types being fawned over in our era. But it really doesn’t matter, does it? The goons always need to be called in to enforce that which runs contrary to our deepest and most hidden natures.


12 posted on 11/02/2008 8:48:13 PM PST by BuckCronkite
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To: dascallie

one of my favorite quotes. did some investigating recently trying to confirm the quote and found this:

http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote/norman_thomas_quote_ffb1

“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.”

Quote by: Norman Thomas
(1884-1968) six-time U.S. Presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America
Source: 1948 - from an interview during the presidential campaign,

[Ed. note: Norman Thomas and Gus Hall, the U.S. Communist Party Candidate, both quit American politics, agreeing that the Republican and Democratic parties by 1970 had adopted every plank on the Communist/Socialist and they no longer had an alternate party platform on which to run.]

The editor’s note was a new twist.

and another quote from him:

http://thinkexist.com/quotes/like/the_difference_between_democrats_and_republicans/160746/

“The difference between Democrats and Republicans is: Democrats have accepted some ideas of Socialism cheerfully, while Republicans have accepted them reluctantly.”


13 posted on 11/02/2008 9:15:31 PM PST by highway61
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