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Prop 8 called the 'Gettysburg' of gay civil rights
Houston Chronicle ^ | Oct. 31, 2008 | LISA LEFF

Posted on 11/02/2008 4:26:07 PM PST by nickcarraway

Five months and thousands of weddings after California's highest court sanctioned same-sex marriage, anxious eyes around the nation will closely follow voters Tuesday as they decide whether to turn back the clock.

Given the state's size and influence, the vote on a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage has become a referendum on sexual orientation and civil rights. Both sides call it the "Gettysburg" of the power struggle between the gay rights movement and the Christian right, with the victors capturing momentum in other states.

"As California goes, so goes the nation," Mayor Gavin Newsom boldly predicted at a City Hall celebration the day the state Supreme Court legalized marriages of gays and lesbians.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2008election; california; gavinnewsom; homosexualagenda; houstonchronicle; judeochristian; liberalism; lisaleff; moralabsolutes; moralrelativism; prop8; proposition8; protectmarriage; queerlybeloved; samesexmarriage; sanfranciscovalues; socialconservatism; traditionalmarriage; valuesvoters
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1 posted on 11/02/2008 4:26:08 PM PST by nickcarraway
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I didn’t know Gettysburg and the deaths of 53,000 good men on both sides had been reduced to a conflict over genitals.

Gettysburg is Holy Ground and I, for one, am angry it is being compared to someone’s lust.


2 posted on 11/02/2008 4:29:32 PM PST by OpusatFR (Neither Republican or Democrat. Monarchist with allegience to The Only One.)
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Four whores and seven queers ago, ah nevermind


3 posted on 11/02/2008 4:29:35 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Election '08, the year McCain defined the word "dilemma")
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To: nickcarraway

Prop 8 will win and not because of the so called “Christian Right”, but because most people simply don’t want it, just like they don’t want polygamy, or incestuous marriage. Get over it gays, and quit while you are ahead. You push to far and you will end up losing much more.


4 posted on 11/02/2008 4:30:42 PM PST by HerrBlucher
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To: nickcarraway

Gettysburg? I call it the Waterloo of the Gay Marriage movement.


5 posted on 11/02/2008 4:31:13 PM PST by max americana
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To: nickcarraway
"As California goes, so goes the nation," Mayor Gavin Newsom boldly predicted at a City Hall celebration the day the state Supreme Court legalized marriages of gays and lesbians.

May God have mercy on this country if this is true!

6 posted on 11/02/2008 4:31:47 PM PST by Anti-MSM
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"As California goes, so goes the nation," Mayor Gavin Newsom...

Sorry "big boy." We did the lawyer version last year and it got shot down. This year we kept it simple and it's going to pass big time. Arizona is going to have a constitutional amendment. Screw the "judges."

7 posted on 11/02/2008 4:31:54 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I'm voting for McCain/Palin so I can look my grandchildren in the eyes when I tell them I'm sorry.)
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To: nickcarraway

Do not soil the memory of 53000 good men by comparing them to men with no balls.


8 posted on 11/02/2008 4:32:23 PM PST by Ancient Drive
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To: HerrBlucher

I hope you are right, polls are too close to call right now. Last poll had it slightly behind.


9 posted on 11/02/2008 4:32:35 PM PST by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: HerrBlucher

What the gays don’t SIMPLY understand is that all the gays have to do is simply call it “gay/civil unions”. That’s it. And the right will lay off. But NO, they have to hold the majority victim to their minority culture. I wish I can tell the gays to KMA but they might do more than that...


10 posted on 11/02/2008 4:33:38 PM PST by max americana
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To: SideoutFred

The polls are crap, just like with the prez election. The large hispanic community in CA and the black community will overwhelmingly vote for 8, despite most of them voting for bambi. In regards to homosexuality those two cultures are very conservative.


11 posted on 11/02/2008 4:42:08 PM PST by HerrBlucher
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To: nickcarraway
the vote on a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage has become a referendum on state endorsement of a particular sexual orientation and the negation of politically incorrect civil rights.
12 posted on 11/02/2008 4:45:09 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: nickcarraway

Gettysburg was a loss.


13 posted on 11/02/2008 4:47:04 PM PST by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Amendments?)
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To: Anti-MSM
"As California goes, so goes Oregon."

Cali hasn't been a bellwether since the 1960s.

14 posted on 11/02/2008 4:48:48 PM PST by Clemenza (PRIVATIZE FANNIE AND FREDDIE! NO MORE BAILOUTS!)
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The punk Gavin Newsom wants to force perverted San Francisco values upon the rest of the state. Whether Californians "like it or not." He's the poster child of all that's wrong with same sex marriage.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

15 posted on 11/02/2008 4:51:17 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Morgana
sounds bout right to me...
18 posted on 11/02/2008 5:16:03 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - McCain/Palin'08 = http://www.johnmccain.com/)
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To: nickcarraway

I voted Yes on 8 last week (absentee). Not to “roll back the clock”, but to roll back judicial insanity and activist extremism.


19 posted on 11/02/2008 5:44:52 PM PST by Dagnabitt (What (child) Would Mohammad Do?)
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I voted Yes on 8 last week (absentee). Not to “roll back the clock”, but to roll back judicial insanity and activist extremism.


20 posted on 11/02/2008 5:45:02 PM PST by Dagnabitt (What (child) Would Mohammad Do?)
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