Posted on 11/05/2008 9:46:24 AM PST by goldstategop
After an intense campaign that cost more than $75 million, California's voters have approved a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage, dealing a huge blow to the gay rights movement and setting the stage for another round of court battles over the volatile issue.
While the Yes on 8 campaign claimed victory just before midnight, the numbers continued to play out in their favor this morning. Still, advocates of same-sex marriage had clung to hopes that a surge of support from uncounted votes could still overcome the ban.
But this morning, with 95 percent of precincts reporting, the measure passed with 52 percent in favor, and 47.9 percent opposed. There are an untold number of absentee and provisional ballots
Left to be counted, according to the Associated Press, but it will be hard to overcome the 5 percent margin. The San Francisco City Attorney's office says he plans to file the legal challenge in the California Supreme Court to challenge the validity of the measure. Also, the first lesbian couple to be married in Los Angeles County after the Supreme Court threw out the gay marriage ban plans to announce a lawsuit arguing that the proposition is unconstitutional.
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Given Obama's victory, "it's a stunning, stinging defeat," McCuan said. "This is a Democratic blue wave and standing out in one of the bluest of the blue states is this huge red result."In one of the bluest of the blue states is this huge red result."
Indeed. Traditional values are still alive and well in America.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Good news. I’ll take it.
Obviously the Constitution is unconstitutional!?!?.....or so the judges will say as they over rule the will of the people once again.
Wasn’t there a parental notification law on the ballot in CA as well that was defeated?
Such a ballot proposition passed by a larger margin in Massachusetts, but the Massachusetts Constitution is harder to amend, and the legislature basically gave it a pocket veto by unconstituionally refusing to enact or vote to repeal the ballot question.
“Indeed. Traditional values are still alive and well in America.”
Oh Pleeeeze...we just elected the most radical abortionist in our history....this issues “pales” by comparrison....AND, it will be over-turned by Obama appointed judges.
Today...I believe that the majority of America is non-religious/selfish/and just plain stupid. Traditional values are for the minority goup...and that would be US!
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
See, I think this is very interesting. Similar propositions passed in Florida and Arizona. That tells us that most people have the same values as McCain, yet they voted for Obama. That is what the Republican party needs to build on. They need to focus on the fact that the vast majority of Americans share their values and somehow convince them to support everything else. How is anyone’s question. It should be the main goal for 2010 and 2012.
I did not think for a second that a constitutional amendment would be the end of this. The same people who grounded themselves in the California constitution as interpreted by the courts to agree with them will now be saying the California constitution doesn’t matter.
proof that conservatism is still alive and strong(ish).
I’m sick of having to say over and over that this proposition BANS nothing. It AFFIRMS the pre-existing law that was unconstitutionally overturned by the judges of the California supreme court. The chief victims of those lawless judges will be the disappointed gays who will now see their phony “marriages” invalidated.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Gays will always have the right to bo whining idiots thanks to the First Amendment. Not so in the Middle East.
Exactly.. I worked hard for the prop 8, but the judges will strike it down...It conflicts with the clear wording of the constitution re: gay marriage. They really don’t need to find the wording anymore they can just say it is there.
“Mr. Takei, about that wedding ceremony.....”
“Yes?”
“I’m afraid you and Brad were never really married.”
“What? You mean we’ve been living in sin?????”
Yes, there is the typical “what’s in it for me?” angle. I don’t think Republicans should win that battle, but perhaps they can appeal to hard-working Americans who resent such attitudes. And they will resent it very soon. BTW, I’m so excited about the wealth that’s going to be redistributed to me starting January 21st.
I’m just happy that Obama will pay for my mortgage and gasoline. Hell, now I can quit that job at McDonalds and just ‘ho around.
Yes there was. Prop 4. It looks like it narrowly failed.
You can’t have the American people making policy.
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