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No mandate for Obama, no lopsided Congress (Mandate what exactly?)
suntimes.com ^ | November 5, 2008 | Robert Novak

Posted on 11/05/2008 10:27:15 AM PST by pending

No mandate for Obama, no lopsided Congress

NO REALIGNMENT | No mandate for Obama, no lopsided Congress

WASHINGTON -- The national election Tuesday was not only historic for the election of the first African-American president in the nation's history but also for how little the avalanche of Democratic votes changed the political alignment in Congress.


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The next big spin,what is the mandate?

Obama has been all over the map, so it will be whatever they want to sell. Well they are going to be selling big, because the voters don't even know yet.

Did you know you volunteered to give up your car to save the planet? save the world,stay home.

Stop breathing too. Anything goes here,really

Well,ya,that is in fact a change...

The 95% shtick stuck. That seems about it for actual change?

This will be big,along with the race victim crowd pressing the difficult point that Obama's election means nothing has changed.

I project he will later again be depicted as not authentically black .

See,he didn't really descend from slaves,and he went to Harvard,all of that.

What real blacks go to Haa'vid?

1 posted on 11/05/2008 10:27:16 AM PST by pending
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To: pending

I think the left will be disappointed because Obama is a politician first and foremost and way over promised them what he can deliever. I have a feeling that it is 1976 all over again and America has to be reminded.


2 posted on 11/05/2008 10:29:25 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: pending

I think the left will be disappointed because Obama is a politician first and foremost and way over promised them what he can deliever. I have a feeling that it is 1976 all over again and America has to be reminded.


3 posted on 11/05/2008 10:29:35 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: pending

I think the left will be disappointed because Obama is a politician first and foremost and way over promised them what he can deliever. I have a feeling that it is 1976 all over again and America has to be reminded.


4 posted on 11/05/2008 10:29:43 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: pending

AOL says it’s an “Historic Landslide.”
lol
Yea, sure. It wasn’t even historic turnout.


5 posted on 11/05/2008 10:29:54 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: chris_bdba
There is one difference between 76 and now. It remains to be seen how much Obama and the democrats can change the country in four years demographically.

It should be clear to the most pig-headed open border fanatics among us that the immigrant vote breaks overwhelmingly for the socialist party.

6 posted on 11/05/2008 10:33:17 AM PST by skeeter (Its Barry's fault)
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To: chris_bdba

Just for conversation sake....what if the GOP lets Obama have 90% of what he wants in legislation?

What if the country actually gets what it said it wanted?

Would the damage be enough to cry for a mandated change away from his politics?


7 posted on 11/05/2008 10:33:33 AM PST by Eagle Eye (Obama's Marxism--Chains you can believe in)
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To: snarkytart

1936, 1972, and 1984 were landslides. This wasn’t one.


8 posted on 11/05/2008 10:34:26 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: chris_bdba
"I have a feeling that it is 1976 all over again..."

ditto

jw

9 posted on 11/05/2008 10:35:12 AM PST by JWinNC (Biden is the Wile E. Coyote of the Dems. His bombs always end up blowing him up.)
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To: pending

There was a mandate...we were just run over by it.

More social program...free stuff...government “work” projects....no dirty coal....reparations to black people, peace on earth (which means reduced military spending), tax “re-bates” to people that didn’t pay them.

Gonna be a fun 4 years!


10 posted on 11/05/2008 10:37:21 AM PST by HappyinAZ
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To: chris_bdba

think the left will be disappointed because Obama is a politician first and foremost and way over promised them what he can deliever. I have a feeling that it is 1976 all over again and America has to be reminded.


Sad that a rerun of Carter’s disaster is about the best case scenario. Though a rerun of 1994 would do just fine (though I don’t see it right now).


11 posted on 11/05/2008 10:39:32 AM PST by Crimson Elephant
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To: chris_bdba
I have a feeling that it is 1976 all over again and America has to be reminded.

Well, if it's any encouragement to you, just remember that 1976 was followed by 1980.

12 posted on 11/05/2008 10:39:50 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Nihil utile nisi quod honestum - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: riverdawg
By tradition, a popular vote victory of 55% or more is considered a landslide. The last popular vote figure I saw was 57%, which qualifies this as a landslide.

When a presidential candidate wins in a landslide and his party's numbers in Congress increase, he is considered to possess a mandate.

Obama's mantra for the campaign was "Change". I have no idea what he plans to do with his mandate, but he has one, and he has the congressional backing to get it enacted.

13 posted on 11/05/2008 10:40:09 AM PST by Publius
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To: skeeter
It should be clear to the most pig-headed open border fanatics among us that the immigrant vote breaks overwhelmingly for the socialist party.

They vote overwhelming for keeping what they earn after a hard days work if they are given the opportunity. And are very, VERY pro-life.

Republicans in border states like California need to stop listening to "helpful" liberals and start publicly supporting those positions.

14 posted on 11/05/2008 10:40:54 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: pending
Game plan right now for liberals is pretty simple. The Republicans are obstructing any meaningful changes, we gotta get them out of Congress - there's the midterm election. And they'll coast through to the next presidential with a ‘we're still trying to clean up the mess Bush left’ mantra to carry Obama back to the White House.

I think the only meaningful questions at this point is how to reestablish the conservative cause again. Anything else is meaningless - the Republicans have to come roaring back with a clear and concise goal set, present it to the voters, and do it.

Instead, we'll spend the next year beating upon each other, then dragging our feet to support lame-voices in congress to hold some semblance of a voice for yet another disappointing midterm, and then thrash around and try to scrape up someone for a presidential run.

At some point, someone’s going to realize that we have to run as a party if we intend on being successful. The liberals can't - their party is filled with too many conflicting opinions to launch a meaningful campaign - after all, look at Obama - he won with one word - change. Unfortunately, the voters are going to find out that this was as effective as channel surfing at 3am in the morning. Nothing’s on.

We need comprehensive and iron clad goals. Smaller government, control over entitlement programs, thrashing the insane government payroll. I'd love to have a former officer stand up and run for the White House, demanding that government workers earn no more than their military counterparts.

Instead we'll get some empty campaign hack and everyone going it their own way across the country, yet again, and we'll remain the minority party.

Republicans win when they have goals and stick to them, they lose when the focus disappears. We won against Kerry because we weren't done in Iraq, we had a goal (abet a minor one in the overall scheme of things...) The liberals went into office without a goal, led by someone who owes everyone nothing, and no one owes him a damn thing. Hopefully this will cannibalize their own party, but nothing will mean anything until we get our own party in order.

15 posted on 11/05/2008 10:45:17 AM PST by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: snarkytart

In a way,they are right.
For the Big D to win this big,
we have to go back to,I don’t know?
Way back in history,
err...somewhere back there.

I know that is not what they are saying,of course.

That is the thing...big mandate! Wowee!
Everyone clearly wants that!

Err,what is that again?

Media multiple choice,a game to be
named later is my bet.
They will float things,
feel for resistance.

A big key will be,of course,who is the real Obama?
Last February’s radical,or Mr October?

Will he throw Reid,Pelosi and Schumer under the bus?

He is an experienced under the bus thrower of inconvenient and unwanted things,after all.


16 posted on 11/05/2008 10:46:03 AM PST by pending (TODAY)
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To: Snickering Hound
They vote overwhelming for keeping what they earn after a hard days work if they are given the opportunity. And are very, VERY pro-life.

I no longer believe this. The evidence just isn't there.

17 posted on 11/05/2008 10:52:23 AM PST by skeeter (Its Barry's fault)
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To: Publius
Sorry, but I must disagree. The last popular-vote percentage I saw for Obama was 53% - not 57%. Also, it appears that the Democrats will not have a fillibuster-proof majority in the Senate, so the worst of their expected legislative proposals will not be enacted (at least if the Republican leadership holds its members together).
18 posted on 11/05/2008 10:57:35 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: pending
NO NEW TAXES, NONE !
19 posted on 11/05/2008 11:08:25 AM PST by timestax ( CNNLIES)
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To: skeeter
There is one difference between 76 and now. It remains to be seen how much Obama and the democrats can change the country in four years demographically.

Bingo. In 1980, the population was 80% white. In 2008, it is 66% white and falling rapidly. Whites tend to be the conservatives in society. While there are possibilities to attract minorities thru some social issues, most of them are socialists first so that trumps everything else. America is gone. Pat Buchanan was right. America needed a timeout to allow people to assimilate into the culture and learn American history and values. It didn't happen. The decline is going to happen...whether amnesty takes place or not will merely determine the pace of the decline.

20 posted on 11/05/2008 11:20:55 AM PST by Azzurri
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