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Is the gun issue dead?
11/6/08 | vanity

Posted on 11/06/2008 5:42:01 AM PST by pabianice

Has there in the past 50 years been another national election in which the NRA and other pro-2nd Amendment groups been complete failures in influencing the outcome?

As best I can determine, the NRA did not save/win a single state for McCain. Has the NRA become useless against the utterly corrupt Media Brothel? Or was it a case of Obama spending 9-1 against McCain and 90-1 against the NRA and other gun groups?

This is an important question going forward. Since The One used hundreds of millions of dollars of illegal/foreign money, and since it will never, ever be investigated, what's to stop him in 2012 from gathering TWO billion dollars to win?


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1 posted on 11/06/2008 5:42:02 AM PST by pabianice
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2 posted on 11/06/2008 5:45:00 AM PST by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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the biggest priority for this party must be to stop all that illegal money other wise oabma will have double than last time

we have to find out where it came from, how much abroad, why was pre paid credit cards used and they have to be banned
how much came from abroad

all this needs to be looked into and this party HAS TO DO IT

no excuses , get the feds involved and why Bush hasn’t done this is beyond me.

we stop the money we stop obama if wee don’t we will be looking at 8 years of this racist and supreme court judges making decisions for the next 20 to 30 years

he has to be stopped


3 posted on 11/06/2008 5:46:07 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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Some of it depends on whether the Dems remember what happened to them in 1994 after they passed the Brady Bill and the assault weapons ban. They may figure, "Hey, we have a mandate, and it's 14 years later, let's go for it", and certainly the @$$holes who drive these bans like Chuck Schumer and Diane Feinstein have nothing to lose because they have safe seats.

I anticipate that the Dems are already plotting their legislative strategy (they've actually said so) and that they will have many bills covering much of their agenda already written and ready for "debate" when 0bama takes office. It all comes down to whether we can make the Republicans "man up" and oppose them. I'm not holding my breath.

4 posted on 11/06/2008 5:49:36 AM PST by Hardastarboard (America is so "twenty minutes ago")
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In Pennsylvania union membership trumped NRA membership. They will live to reget that.


5 posted on 11/06/2008 5:49:39 AM PST by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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The NRA should have waged a state by state campaign to overturn anti firearms laws and make them “shall issue” states. It’s too late now.


6 posted on 11/06/2008 5:52:06 AM PST by Enterprise (No Oil for Democrats!)
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Not only did the NRA not help McCain, they actually campaigned actively for the traitorous LIBERAL DEMOCRAT John Murtha against.


7 posted on 11/06/2008 5:54:53 AM PST by TheBattman (Why do we still see "donate" auto-posts on EVERY STINKING THREAD??!!!!!!!)
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It’s a certainty that the Dems will pass a law outlawing semi-auto pistols and rifles. How that will be implemented remains unknown. Every gun sold in the past 30 years is known to BATF. I believe it will be done town by town, starting here in MA, with police first notifying you to turn-in your guns, then coming for them in person. Violence will erupt. The Press Whores will show the violence on TV, urging that ALL guns must be taken to “stop the violence.”


8 posted on 11/06/2008 5:58:10 AM PST by pabianice (HOW)
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I thought that in 2006 there were a lot of conservative democrats that got elected to the house running as pro-gun. I still think the 94 election is burned into there brains and the democrats are not going to touch the gun control issue. The may float a couple of small bills out there to see if they can get any traction but if we can shoot them down, the Dem leadership will realize they have bigger fish to fry and leave the gun issue alone. Besides, the gun industry is having a banner year this year.


9 posted on 11/06/2008 6:08:23 AM PST by BobinIL
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I appreciate your concern and I'm sympathetic to your general view (in a well armed civil society) but your conclusion about ‘a law outlawing semi-auto pistols and rifles’ is completely baseless.
10 posted on 11/06/2008 6:09:54 AM PST by tcostell (MOLON LABE - http://freenj.blogspot.com - RadioFree NJ)
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Unfortunately, the gun issue only comes into play after restrictive laws get passed. With so many 'shall issue' CCW states now, the recent SCOTUS ruling, and the sunset of the Clinton era Assault Weapon Ban, the gun issue was a non-issue this cycle.

Let Reid and Pelosi renew the AWB, outlaw high capacity magazines, or push against the SCOTUS rule, and you will see the issue come to the forefront again.

11 posted on 11/06/2008 6:10:25 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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WE ARE NOT GOING TOO NEED GUNS. Obama’s new National Police Force will be called “a well organized militia” and thus the public does not have a need for them, turn them in.


12 posted on 11/06/2008 6:11:51 AM PST by RetiredArmy (America is entering four very long and cold years. First victim: liberty)
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Honestly, I think the gun issue is pretty dead — and thus, that the NRA has lost some influence. The problem is, we’ve won the issue so resoundingly that not even the most liberal candidates will speak out against gun ownership for fear of torpedoing their own campaign.

And, when people don’t see a threat to gun rights — which, in this election, there wasn’t any visible threat — the NRA is an irrelevancy. If Democrats start eroding gun rights again, the debate will emerge next election cycle ... and we’ll get some steam from it.

H


13 posted on 11/06/2008 6:17:30 AM PST by SnakeDoctor (Keep Austin Quarantined ...)
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It will be a very rough next few years but it’s not dead. other wise we are dead.


14 posted on 11/06/2008 6:21:15 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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Has there in the past 50 years been another national election in which the NRA and other pro-2nd Amendment groups been complete failures in influencing the outcome?

In the end, it was the economy. McCain was polling pretty strongly after the GOP convention until the financial meltdown hit, and he just simply could not recover.

15 posted on 11/06/2008 6:22:02 AM PST by dirtboy
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The NRA works better when people truly believe that there is a real threat and voters didn't a threat anywhere other than “another 4 years of Bush.” The Obama campaign successfully convinced enough people that Obama wasn't going to go after guns. They must have played that one ad with the farmer/hunter guy telling how there's nothing to worry about with Obama, etc. a hundred times or more. Repeat a lie often enough and even the skeptics will be saying for you.
16 posted on 11/06/2008 6:25:29 AM PST by revo evom
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Is the gun issue dead?

Yup....you will not be allowed to own them anymore.

17 posted on 11/06/2008 6:28:55 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Time to expurgate the VICHY Republicans.)
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Don’t forget to thank McCain for McCain Feingold and the inhibition of political speech.


18 posted on 11/06/2008 6:39:45 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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Because of Scalia’s opinion in D.C. versus Heller this year, the Democrats and Liberals and Socialists who dream of a gun-free United States, which they’ve been trying to achieve through back door trickery, are stymied, perhaps permanently.

The opinion was as clear as it could be about the right to own firearms, and even covered back door trickery such as raising the price of firearms ownership licenses to astronomic levels, as Obama supported in Illinois.

So, if liberals think it won’t be worth the effort to keep on trying either through the front door or the back door with this issue, they’ll just quietly abandon it, and we will have mostly won


19 posted on 11/06/2008 6:44:24 AM PST by re_tail20
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I couldn’t agree more. This guy is not to be given a free pass as it appears all campaign finance laws were broken. And the foreign money is mind boggling. We’ve been bought, will be abused and our survival is in doubt.


20 posted on 11/06/2008 7:03:35 AM PST by mcshot (Bitterly Loving God, Family, and Guns more then ever. The Constitution Dammit.)
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