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Is the gun issue dead?
11/6/08 | vanity

Posted on 11/06/2008 5:42:01 AM PST by pabianice

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To: pabianice
Violence will erupt.

Absolutely. And if the situation occurs, the violence has to be directed properly.

41 posted on 11/06/2008 9:41:46 AM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: BobinIL
I still think the 94 election is burned into there brains and the democrats are not going to touch the gun control issue.

The national socialist party (formerly known as the democRATS) feel that they have a mandate. In order for them to complete all their socialist dreams, they MUST disarm the public.

42 posted on 11/06/2008 9:44:30 AM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: pabianice

First, control the media, then control the guns, because the media won’t be able to report it.


43 posted on 11/06/2008 9:47:48 AM PST by Pistolshot (Buy lower recievers, ammo, components for reloading. Buy bricks of 22LR for barter.)
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To: manc

LOL You think the pubbies will investigate something? That is humorous, they will have to ask for he key to the bathroom. LOL Pelosi and Reid are going to do whatever they feel lik doing for at least two years and if they can turn 20 million illegals into voters for a lot longer than that. They only (and I do mean ONLY) hope we have is that they just get tired of sticking it to use and go on to do something else for a while but I doubt power hingry egomaniacs ever realy tire of torturing others (which is really ironic when you consider it all.)


44 posted on 11/06/2008 9:56:25 AM PST by wastoute
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To: Yo-Yo
Let Reid and Pelosi renew the AWB, outlaw high capacity magazines, or push against the SCOTUS rule, and you will see the issue come to the forefront again.

The Dems can't resist their anti-gun impulses. We should prepare for the most draconian gun laws in our nation's history for starters.

45 posted on 11/06/2008 10:00:39 AM PST by nonsporting
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To: dirtboy
Do you honestly think that independent voters would have any grasp of the subject?

Not the way it was presented:"Bush's Fault"

That was the error in letting that stand.

Not hard to tell the history of the problem, it can be done in 30 seconds or less, and laid on the proper doorstep, so even a child can understand.

It just was not done.

46 posted on 11/06/2008 10:21:48 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: I Buried My Guns

Cute kitty...and sweet guns.

I have been building my own lower receivers for years.

http://www.ar15plus.com/noc/shop/default.asp


47 posted on 11/06/2008 3:20:12 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Time to expurgate the VICHY Republicans.)
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To: pabianice

Another blame game thread
Rush didnt turn it around..
The NRA didnt turn it around..

It was Mccain that took public financing and ran the weakest most gentlemanly campaign ever. it was Bush and McCain-Kennedy that suppressed the base.


48 posted on 11/06/2008 4:22:21 PM PST by omega4179 (Newt RNC)
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To: rosenfan

I asked some Fudds about their guns and they claimed obama couldn’t take their’s because of Heller.

They’re in for a shock since little barak is going to ignore the Constitution like he always does.


49 posted on 11/06/2008 5:36:14 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: kendwell

What are you? Stupid? The only gun group that as active during this election was the NRA with all their commercials and ads in the battleground states.


50 posted on 11/06/2008 5:38:10 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: omega4179

My son claims we lost the election because we lost the Libertarian Party’s vote due to the treatment of Ron Paul. He might be right.


51 posted on 11/06/2008 5:40:41 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: pabianice

Today I went down to the gun store to pick up an ammo order and saw a man there buying a Ruger 10/22 with a pink nylon stock for his little girl. Things like that give me some hope.


52 posted on 11/06/2008 6:10:49 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: Shooter 2.5
My son claims we lost the election because we lost the Libertarian Party’s vote due to the treatment of Ron Paul. He might be right.

I've worked with a lot of Libertarians in ballot initiative campaigns and had an opportunity to speak with a number of Ron Paul supporters early in the nomination process.

1. The people who supported Paul were never going to vote for McCain anyway. Most of them were to the left of Obama - these were "free healthcare" Libertarians.
2. A lot of Libertarians are single issue voters. Get beyond their issue and they loose interest.
3. Libertarians have short attention spans - there early in the campaign, hard to find in October. I've worked hard on initiative campaigns with any number of Libertarians who later said something like "Oh yea man, I didn't even vote this time."
4. Libertarians tend not to be what one would call highly effective people. They frequently do not or cannot deliver on their commitments and often fail to realize that just because they shared a joint with someone five years ago doesn't mean they can count on that person's loyal support in perpetuity.
5. McCain lost the popular vote by 7,742,000 votes. Barr, the Libertarian nominee, got 493,000 votes. Ralph Nader got 666,000 and Cynthia McKinney got 144,000. Combined the minor parties got less than 17% of the margin between the two major candidates.
6. There are more Type 2 diabetics in the Republican Party than there are Libertarian votes to be had. Libertarians policies, if fully implemented in the real world, would leave us broke and dead. McCain would have lost more votes than he could possible have gained by embracing that nut ball from Texas.

The reason McCain lost was because his campaign fell apart when he "suspended" it to react to the "fiscal crisis" in late September. He lost momentum by tying himself to a no win issue and never was able to get himself back on track.

53 posted on 11/06/2008 6:57:30 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Thanks. That’s a better analysis than my son had since we’re in Texas. He does think Paul had a better chance than what was possible.

What I learned from the dems at work was most of them didn’t vote for obama. That means they simply didn’t vote for him. My assumption was they then voted for McCain which I learned isn’t true. They simply left the presidency blank because they still couldn’t bring themselves to vote for a hated Republican.


54 posted on 11/06/2008 7:05:49 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: pabianice

From Obama’s presidential agenda at
http://www.change.gov/agenda/urbanpolicy/

Address Gun Violence in Cities: As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals who shouldn’t have them. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets.


55 posted on 11/06/2008 7:11:49 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: PapaBear3625
They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets.

Certain politicians entertain dreams of completely taking over power, and by taking the best weapons out of the peoples hands make them feel that they are one step closer to making their authoritarian state a reality.

56 posted on 11/07/2008 9:04:32 PM PST by Red Steel
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