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Forbes: Obama Will Be Forced to the Center
moneynews.newsmax.com/ ^ | November 6, 2008 | Gene Koprowski

Posted on 11/06/2008 6:28:48 PM PST by Publius804

Forbes: Obama Will Be Forced to the Center

Thursday, November 6, 2008 2:52 PM

By: Gene Koprowski

Steve Forbes, editor-in-chief of Forbes magazine, says he expect President-elect Barack Obama to be forced by the economy to "govern from the center," not the far left, as some fear.

"When Clinton came into office, the economy was growing at a 4 percent rate at the end of 1992. Now we have negative growth. Last quarter was 0.3 percent decline,” Forbes told Fox Business News.

“So, short term, yes. Obama will move to the center. He is a calculating enough man to know you are not going to be effective in office if you do things that people think are destructive to the economy."

The mounting federal debt, for one, will hamper Obama's far-left impulses, Forbes said. Federal spending could exceed $1.5 trillion, pushing up the government's fiscal year debt by more than 25 percent in a year.

“He wants to get re-elected. He can't blame George Bush four years from now if the economy is not doing well."

Conservative commentator Rush Limbaugh strong disagrees with the notion that Obama will move to the center once in power.

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KEYWORDS: bho2008; forbes; obama; obamatransitionfile; rushlimbaugh; steveforbes
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1 posted on 11/06/2008 6:28:48 PM PST by Publius804
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To: Publius804

What are these people smoking?


2 posted on 11/06/2008 6:30:32 PM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: Publius804

According to his new website; he is going ahead as planned.


3 posted on 11/06/2008 6:30:58 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Publius804
“He wants to get re-elected. He can't blame George Bush four years from now if the economy is not doing well."

Why can't he? He will. And that's how his media lapdogs will report it.

4 posted on 11/06/2008 6:31:53 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (2010. Do or die.)
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To: freekitty

True! BO thinks he has a ‘mandate’ from the people to do whatever he wants....he forgets that 55M of us did not vote for him....


5 posted on 11/06/2008 6:33:34 PM PST by BossLady (Dr. Manning Says: Grinchbama Will Steal Christmas!!!!)
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To: Publius804

Baseless optimism, I’d call it. A contracting economy is just what the American left loves: Obama has already tipped his hand that he wants all kinds of Federally funded infrastructure projects and to organize all kinds of civilian this-that-or-the-other-thing corps. (Not just his ominous ‘civilian national security corps’.) He wants to play FDR, and this time plans to do the full fascist treatment the Supremes stopped the original from going through with.

Maybe we’ll luck out and Karl Marx will be right about one thing, and when history repeats itself it will be farce the second time around. Of course given Marx’s track record. . .


6 posted on 11/06/2008 6:33:42 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Publius804
Maybe after the 2010 elections but not a moment sooner.He is,after all,the Anointed One.
7 posted on 11/06/2008 6:34:06 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama:"Ich bin ein beginner")
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I totally agree. He’s gonna bring this country back to the Clinton years, then proceed with his nefarious plans. Problem is, we’ll probably all be blown to smithereens.


8 posted on 11/06/2008 6:34:09 PM PST by Charles Bronson Forever
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To: Publius804
Another one of the reasons Steve Forbes can never be President ~ he's naive.

The leftwingtards have every intention of being as stupid as they can be.

9 posted on 11/06/2008 6:34:19 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Precisely ... the media forgot about the dot-com bubble in ‘04 when Bush was running for office (and for that matter, the economic devastation of 9-11) but they’ll remember ‘The Wretched Bush Economy’ in 2012 as being the cause of all our woes.

Mark my words.

In fact, I think that Obama is looking at the downfall in the market with glee. This is how FDR enacted the New Deal. You need economic chaos to push socialism.


10 posted on 11/06/2008 6:34:42 PM PST by rom
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To: Publius804

Forbes you ignorant slut. Obama is going to wreck the economy and govern from the far left. The only people who can put any pressure on him are DEMOCRATS - and we know how courageous THEY are!


11 posted on 11/06/2008 6:34:45 PM PST by Enterprise (No Oil for Democrats!)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

You are dead on...it get really strange from here on out.


12 posted on 11/06/2008 6:34:49 PM PST by sierrahome (Cuba got "Change" in 1959!)
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To: Publius804

Wishful thinking. Forbes is a smart guy, but not that smart.


13 posted on 11/06/2008 6:35:14 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Publius804
Obama will have three faces. He will do things to appear center-left to the public at large, but will rearrange institutions and policies behind the scenes to move them to the left...that will be mostly out of the media eye. He will have a third face where he takes a few high profile left positions on things in favor of his base that are not that "scary" to the general public.

His main challenge will be his own party moonbats who don't do "subtle". They want a hare and not a turtle. He may have some issues with them.
14 posted on 11/06/2008 6:35:17 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Publius804
With a liberal congress and Pelosi who is from San Fran. - I don't think so.

RightWingIt.com

15 posted on 11/06/2008 6:36:17 PM PST by GaryLee1990 (www.RightWingIt.com)
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To: Publius804

“President-elect Barack Obama to be forced by the economy to “govern from the center,” not the far left, as some fear. “

He’s assuming a rational approach, rather than an outcome-driven agenda to achieve social justice to the planet, at any cost.

The mortgage crisis was consequences-be-ignored social justice policy.


16 posted on 11/06/2008 6:37:03 PM PST by DBrow (NUMA!)
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To: pnh102
Hussein's hordes are playing journalists and commentators.

All with the same exact story.

Hussein the Marxist.....will miraculously become a moderate, lol.

Only stupid people on TV and in print believe this, normal people like us know better.

17 posted on 11/06/2008 6:38:06 PM PST by roses of sharon (The MSM vampires must die.)
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To: Publius804
Steve Forbes, editor-in-chief of Forbes magazine, says he expect President-elect Barack Obama to be forced by the economy to "govern from the center," not the far left, as some fear.

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Sure Steve.

18 posted on 11/06/2008 6:38:13 PM PST by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: pnh102

FReepers have a much more accurate read — let us trust our educated and informed judgment over any other source. For two years we have studied our opponents in depth. We know them better than they know themselves, imo. Trust our Freeper selves and stay standing.


19 posted on 11/06/2008 6:38:22 PM PST by bvw
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To: Enterprise

Obama is going to wreck the economy and govern from the far left.
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Without any doubt. That is why he appointed Emmanuel. Radical left. Obama will go after silencing talk radio, and he does not care what America will think about it. He will govern and act from the RADICAL left...his goons in the Congress will force him there and keep him there threatening him with their support if he does not go radical on America and Constitutional freedoms.

Keep an eye open America — he will attack you freedoms, your wealth, your economy, and the core values of America. You had better be ready to fight back.


20 posted on 11/06/2008 6:38:58 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Publius804

Who’s going to force him to the center? Reid? Pelosi? RINO’s??

There’s a LOT of wishful thinking going on, none here. Everything about Obama’s past suggests a HARD left turn.

The Soros/Moonbat wing is in control, this is their halcyon/LSD days.

All we can do is hunker down, fight in your states for election reform, purge the RINO’s, and vote in the primaries for conservatives.


21 posted on 11/06/2008 6:39:05 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Publius804

And German industrialists thought they could control Hitler.

That did not turn out well.

Neither will this.


22 posted on 11/06/2008 6:39:28 PM PST by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: Colonel_Flagg
The stock market is voting and so far we are down almost 1000 points in two days. More is to come with Hedge Fund investors wanting out and their liquidations between now and Dec. 31 could cause another 2000 point drop.
Now if Obama wanted to ease concerns then he should go on TV and make statement that there will no Tax Increases, More Tax Cuts and No Increase in the Capital Gains Tax.
But my guess is he won't and that he and Democrats want to see the market crash so new regulations and more control can be exerted.
23 posted on 11/06/2008 6:39:44 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Publius804

He will not govern from the center. Obama is arrogant enough to think he can get away promoting a radical, leftist agenda and that America will fall into line behind him. It won’t happen. He will be ripe for defeat in 2012. The centrist and center-right independednts that bought into his bullshit that he was a centrist will abondon him and the young ones, the first time voters, who really believed he was going to pay for their college and housing and food and give everything want will feel betrayed and stay home next time.


24 posted on 11/06/2008 6:42:46 PM PST by AmericanSphinx71 (Pray for America)
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To: All

I read an article by Kudlow a while back and he said his financial advisors, while not supply-siders, are “conservative democrats” for what it’s forth.


25 posted on 11/06/2008 6:44:10 PM PST by SMCC1
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To: roses of sharon
Hussein's hordes are playing journalists and commentators.

He'll govern from the left and the media and other libs will just "call" it the center. See? Easy-peasy!

26 posted on 11/06/2008 6:45:06 PM PST by Dianna
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To: pnh102
I think Forbes is right -- at least in terms of the Obama administration's economic policies.

A bankrupt Federal government will severely limit whatever leftist dreams he may have had up until a couple of months ago.

27 posted on 11/06/2008 6:45:24 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Publius804

I expect that one of the very highest priorities that the rats will act on is to do everything they can to ensure their majority will survive any election. They can do this by giving citizenship to millions of illegals and stifling opposition thru restrictions on speech and packing the courts with allies who will support them in this effort. The big media outlets are already theirs.

Our best hope is that they will overreach and try to do too much too soon and tip their hand causing enough people to scream loudly and put a brake on their agenda. But if they do this right they can get just about anything they want thru the congress and Hussein will, of course, sign off on anything they bring him.

I also do not believe that economic reality is going to deter them much. Reality has never been a big deal to the left and there is no reason to believe they will treat it any differently this time. What will stop them is if conditions are such that it is literally impossible to proceed. But if things are that bad the party designation of the people in government will be largely irrelevant anyway.

I really, really hope I am wrong about this.


28 posted on 11/06/2008 6:45:28 PM PST by scory
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To: Publius804

Chairman Obama may be forced to dissemble and demagogue from the center, but in the words of the odious Algore:
“A leopard never changes its stripes”.


29 posted on 11/06/2008 6:45:45 PM PST by Chairman of the Bard
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To: Captain Peter Blood

I’ve been telling everyone, I figure a 7000-7500 stock market for some time now.


30 posted on 11/06/2008 6:46:42 PM PST by packrat35 (To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women...)
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To: Chairman of the Bard

Obama thinks he IS the center.


31 posted on 11/06/2008 6:46:42 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: pnh102
Well, pot was decriminalized in Massachusetts on Tuesday. So...
32 posted on 11/06/2008 6:46:53 PM PST by JasonC
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To: muawiyah

Steve Forbes helped Clinton win in 1996. His own chances of being elected were nil, but he had an endless supply of money to keep fighting the primaries..by the time Dole had the nomination he was broke and had no money to spend until the convention. Meanwhile Clinton had plenty, legal or illegal, with no primary opponent. Of course Dole probably would have lost anyway (Perot was still a factor in 1996), but it might have been a lot closer.


33 posted on 11/06/2008 6:48:52 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Republic of Texas
Correct. In the hothouse of south side leftist politics, the entire political spectrum is inside the democratic party, and has 3 major positions.

There are Richard Daley types using big government is a money tree for sinecures for union goons and old boy networks, and that is the conservative establishment, since they still believe in private property and cops controlling crime. There are revolutionary anarchists who want to shoot all the white people tomorrow and loot the Loop, and that is the left. And there is highbrow intellectuals for socialist redistribution, and that is the moderate center.

There are supposedly some weird racists in the suburbs that can be demonized and taxed, and rumor has it some downstate hayseeds still living in the 12th century, but nobody cares about any of them.

34 posted on 11/06/2008 6:51:47 PM PST by JasonC
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To: Publius804
He is a calculating enough man

Actually, if it wasn't for the fawning press, most people would realize he's an incredible dullard.

35 posted on 11/06/2008 6:52:07 PM PST by JennysCool (Internet Powerhouse)
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To: SMCC1

Congressmen voting for tax increases will have to answer to their constituents. It won’t be as easy as he thinks (hopefully)


36 posted on 11/06/2008 6:52:27 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: Publius804

“He wants to get re-elected.”

If there even are elections...


37 posted on 11/06/2008 6:53:47 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: packrat35

Maybe lower.


38 posted on 11/06/2008 6:55:08 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: rom

they’ll remember ‘The Wretched Bush Economy’ in 2012 as being the cause of all our woes

I agree and would bet the ranch on it! I just had a conversation today with an Obama lover and he is already excusing a quick recovery because Bush has screwed things up so badly.


39 posted on 11/06/2008 6:56:17 PM PST by rj45mis
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To: Publius804

he’s trying to destroy the economy. That’s the whole point. If they wanted a return to the Clinton years, they would have picked Hillary.


40 posted on 11/06/2008 6:58:55 PM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: socialismisinsidious

ping


41 posted on 11/06/2008 6:59:56 PM PST by long hard slogger (If you're going through hell, keep going. - Winston Churchill)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

he’s book smart, not street smart. obama’s in the gutter.


42 posted on 11/06/2008 7:00:22 PM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: SMCC1

they are for show to get mushy moderates to go with him.


43 posted on 11/06/2008 7:02:15 PM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Dole was Dole. At least forbes brought ideas to the table. Ideas that Bush and the GOP majority should have implemented once they won.


44 posted on 11/06/2008 7:04:39 PM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: Publius804

Yes, the center of Stalinism.


45 posted on 11/06/2008 7:07:05 PM PST by Infidel Puppy
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To: Alberta's Child
A bankrupt Federal government will severely limit whatever leftist dreams he may have had up until a couple of months ago.

Really? Or will it mean he'll increase taxes some more? All in the interest of helping the po' fo'ks, doncha' know?

46 posted on 11/06/2008 7:10:57 PM PST by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: Alberta's Child
A bankrupt Federal government will severely limit whatever leftist dreams he may have had up until a couple of months ago.

True. If you are gonna have a Marxist President it is best to hand him a government already over 10 trillion in debt. He will however use forced volunteer corps (slavery) to get some projects accomplished. And if he is having trouble getting reelected in 4 years, he can always follow in Clinton's footsteps. Blame a domestic terrorist attack by an eco-anarchist on the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy and Talk Radio (OKC).

47 posted on 11/06/2008 7:11:10 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Publius804
Steve Forbes is an idiot. What possible motivation do the marxists have to "govern from the center?" When have they ever, unless they had to to stay in power? The lack of money is meaningless. Laws mean nothing to them. It is well within the agenda of Hussein and his underlings to destroy the currency by gross inflation of the printing-press money supply.

With Pelosi and Reid running the congress Obama has clear sailing-- taking the good ship America right over the waterfall and into the maelstrom.

Sorry Forbes. There are none so blind as those who will not see.

48 posted on 11/06/2008 7:12:38 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Publius804

Obama will grow in power and authority, throw out the Constitution, and will throw America under the bus once he is done with it.


49 posted on 11/06/2008 7:13:59 PM PST by FloridaBattleGround
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To: Publius804
“He wants to get re-elected. He can't blame George Bush four years from now if the economy is not doing well."

Why not FDR got elected 4 years later on Smoke and Mirrors
50 posted on 11/06/2008 7:14:06 PM PST by uncbob
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