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To: NELSON111; thethird
...it is WRONG for the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to REQUIRE service to organizations that might be against the individuals beliefs...

You're right. It is wrong for the Federal Government to REQUIRE community service from citizens at all, unless it is associated with the penal system.

And yes, I am also against a military draft, just in case that comes up.

I've done volunteer work and I enjoy it. But I will not be TOLD by the government to do so.

196 posted on 11/07/2008 11:58:16 AM PST by Allegra
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To: Allegra
The only difference between Obama's plan and the draft is that the constitution allows for the Federal gov't to raise and support an army...therefore consription is assumed and allowed in the constitution...whereas this is not.

But I agree with you on the draft. I've been in almost 22 years...and being in charge of a unit...I can tell you there is a BIG difference b/w people who WANT to be there and people who don't. The voluntary service we have now is just fine. If we added a bunch of people who don't want to be here (especially those who can be founf in today's society)...it would be a real drag.

To those who were talking about school credits required for graduation being connected to community service...I really don't have an issue with that. 1) That is the STATE doing it. 2) It's not MANDATED that you have a high school diploma...you could do the extra work and home school or get a GED. If a STATE decides they want you to do something in return for THEIR diploma...then that's the price. Since one's not MANDATORY (the diploma)...then technically....neither is the other (the service)...its a choice you make. And if I REALLY don't want to make that choice...I could move to another state or disenroll...or get a high school education via some other means.

The problem with this is it is FEDERALLY MANDATED SERVICE FOR ALL...with NOTHING promised in return. And as another poster said...you can bet your bottom dollar that the kids who will be complying will be the suburban and rural kids...not the inner city kids.

201 posted on 11/07/2008 12:13:04 PM PST by NELSON111
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To: Allegra
You're right. It is wrong for the Federal Government to REQUIRE community service from citizens at all, unless it is associated with the penal system.

See post # 141:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2127959/posts?page=141#141

The clear goal of any Marxist/Socialst plan is to turn the Government INTO A PENAL SYSTEM itself, of which you have no choice but to serve. That is the only way the system as a whole can make it's own ends meet.
222 posted on 11/07/2008 1:15:16 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Allegra
And yes, I am also against a military draft, just in case that comes up.

I'm for a draft of all pansy-pants RINOs. 4 to 6 months of Army boot camp would toughen 'em up good. Conservatives would be exempt.

309 posted on 11/07/2008 10:39:56 PM PST by darkangel82
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